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Republican Congressman Steve King

posted on June 8, 2005

Borg: DEFYING THE WHITE HOUSE. ALTHOUGH THE PRESIDENT THREATENS A VETO, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSES LEGISLATION TO EXPAND STEM CELL RESEARCH. ASSESSMENTS ON THAT AND OTHER ISSUES FROM IOWA'S FIFTH DISTRICT CONGRESSMAN STEVE KING ON THIS EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS."

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Borg: WHEN THE 109TH CONGRESS RECONVENES MONDAY FOLLOWING THE MEMORIAL DAY RECESS, THERE'S PLENTY OF HIGH-PRIORITY CHALLENGES WAITING RESOLUTION. ONE OF THE BIGGEST IS BALANCING THE COSTS OF THE WAR IN IRAQ AGAINST EVER MORE PRESSING DOMESTIC NEEDS. DECISIONS MUST BE MADE ON SOCIAL SECURITY, HEALTH CARE REFORM, EDUCATION FUNDING, HOW TO SAVE AMERICAN JOBS WHILE STILL PROMOTING MORE TRADE. COMPLICATING MATTERS IS A CONGRESS THAT REFLECTS THE NATION'S POLITICAL POLARITY. FOR SOME ASSESSMENTS, WE'VE INVITED REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN STEVE KING, NOW IN HIS SECOND YEAR REPRESENTING -- OR I SHOULD SAY SECOND TERM REPRESENTING WESTERN IOWA'S FIFTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. CONGRESSMAN KING, WELCOME BACK TO "IOWA PRESS."

King: THANK YOU. I'VE MISSED THIS PLACE. I'M GLAD TO BE BACK.

Borg: IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. AND ACROSS THE "IOWA PRESS" TABLE: "RADIO IOWA" NEWS DIRECTOR KAY HENDERSON AND "ASSOCIATED PRESS" SENIOR POLITICAL WRITER MIKE GLOVER.

Glover: CONGRESSMAN KING, CONGRESS HAS BEEN WRAPPED UP IN CIRCLES OVER THIS FIGHT OVER JUDICIAL FILIBUSTERS. AND THERE WAS A COMPROMISE, A SORT OF DELAY, THIS SHOWDOWN IN THE SENATE. DIDN'T CONGRESS ESSENTIALLY JUST PUT OFF WHAT IS INEVITABLY GOING TO BE A GIANT FIGHT WHEN THE NEXT SUPREME COURT NOMINEE COMES UP?

King: THEY DID PUT OFF THE POTENTIAL GIANT FIGHT. AS I SAID, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE LAST FALL WHEN IT BECAME CLEAR ABOUT SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER THAT THIS WAS THE GAME PLAN, TO FILIBUSTER THESE JUDGES REGARDLESS OF THEIR QUALIFICATIONS. SO IN MY VIEW, THE SENATORS WHO ASSIGNED THAT PAPER, THE SEVEN REPUBLICANS IN PARTICULAR, CUT THE KNEES OUT FROM UNDERNEATH BILL FRIST. THEY KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. EVERYBODY LIVED TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. AND THE DEMOCRATS, THE MINORITY IN THE SENATE, GOT WHAT THEY WANTED, WHICH WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILIBUSTER THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THAT'S LIKELY TO BE NOMINATED IN THIS UPCOMING SEVERAL MONTHS. AND I THINK THAT ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THAT SOMEHOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN AGREEMENT MADE ON THIS AND THEY'RE GOING TO FIND A BETTER AGREEMENT LATER ON OVER A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, I THINK THAT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VISION TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

Glover: WHAT THIS SORT OF UNDERLYING WAS A DIVIDE WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, DEAN MENTIONED IN HIS OPEN, ON STEM CELL RESEARCH. THERE SEEMS TO BE A DIVIDE BETWEEN SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES AND MODERATES WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. ARE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES RUNNING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RIGHT NOW, AND IS THAT HEALTHY FOR THE PARTY?

King: I THINK SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES HAVE HAD MORE INFLUENCE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THIS STATE. BUT I THINK THE STRUGGLE THAT WENT ON IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE OVER THE FILIBUSTER AND THE JUSTICES REALLY WAS ABOUT A POWER STRUGGLE BETWEEN JOHN MCCAIN AND BILL FRIST.

Glover: AND JOHN MCCAIN WON?

King: ON THAT ROUND HE WON. WE'LL SEE HOW IT GETS PLAYED OUT IN THE END.

Henderson: YOU ARE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS AND YOU WILL NOT BE VOTING ON ANY JUDICIAL NOMINEE. THIS IS A SENATE MATTER BUT YET YOU HAVE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THIS. ARE YOU POSITIONING YOURSELF TO RUN AGAINST SENATOR TOM HARKIN ON DOWN THE ROAD?

King: WELL, KAY, I SERVE ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, AND WE DO HAVE OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITIES WITH THE COURTS. SO I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THOSE ISSUES, AND I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN THOSE ISSUES FOR A LONG TIME. I DO GET ASKED THAT QUESTION FROM TIME TO TIME.

Henderson: AND WHAT'S THE ANSWER?

King: I TRY TO GIVE IT THE STRAIGHTEST ANSWER POSSIBLE, AND THAT IS THAT I'VE BEEN POSITIONING MYSELF TO DO THREE THINGS. I PROMISED AS I WAS A CANDIDATE FOR THE FIRST ELECTION FOR THE FIFTH DISTRICT THAT THE WESTERN THIRD OF IOWA, I DECLARED IT TO BE THE EASTERN NEBRASKA DISTRICT, KIND OF IN JEST, UNTIL I HEARD FROM THE SOUTH DAKOTA PEOPLE. I NEEDED TO INCLUDE THEM. AND I PROMISED THAT I WOULD TRY TO STITCH THE FIFTH DISTRICT TO THE REST OF IOWA SO WE DIDN'T BECOME ISOLATED. I WORKED ALL OVER THE STATE WITH THAT REGARD. AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS ARE IMPORTANT. I THINK A VERY IMPORTANT THING IS TO HAVE THE KIND OF BASE AND INFLUENCE SO THAT I CAN HELP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES THAT WILL COME INTO THIS STATE IN 2008 AND HELP THEM ALL OVER THE STATE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS APPEAR TO BE LAYING GROUNDWORK TO RUN FOR SENATE, AND IF THAT'S WHAT COMES TO PASS LATER ON, THEN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. BUT I DON'T MAKE PLANS TO DO THAT, AND I'M NOT LOGICALLY AND CALCULATING THEM TO DO THAT. IT'S JUST AS THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARRIVE, ONE HAS TO MAKE THAT DECISION LATER ON.

Glover: BUT YOU'RE BUILDING A STATEWIDE BASE WITH THE EYE TOWARDS DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

King: I WANT TO HAVE AS MUCH INFLUENCE FOR IOWA AS I CAN HAVE AT NATIONAL LEVEL, AT THE IOWA LEVEL. IF THAT WORKS OUT, CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D TAKE A LOOK AT.

Henderson: AND YOU'LL BE RUNNING FOR REELECTION.

King: YES, I WILL. I LIKE THIS JOB, KAY.

Henderson: WHAT WILL YOU TELL FOLKS WHEN YOU RUN FOR REELECTION OR WHEN YOU, IN FACT, MAY CHALLENGE TOM HARKIN? SOME OF YOUR CRITICS SAYING SAY YOU'RE SORT OF A PROVOCATEUR, THAT YOU AREN'T A DELIVERER ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU ADVOCATE FOR. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT CHARGE?

King: I'D FIRST ASK THEM WHAT IT IS THAT I'VE PROMISED THAT I HAVEN'T AT LEAST ATTEMPTED TO DELIVER ON. AND WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE 1/435 OF CONGRESS. I LAID OUT MY PLANS AND MY POSITION VERY CLEARLY. I SAID MY JOB, IF YOU ELECT ME TO CONGRESS, IS I BELIEVE THE CENTER -- THE POLITICAL CENTER IS TOO FAR TO THE LEFT, AND I WILL SEEK TO PULL IT TO THE RIGHT HOWEVER INCREMENTALLY. AND I'VE DONE THAT WITH SPENDING. I'VE DONE THAT WITH A NUMBER OF THE SOCIAL ISSUES. I'VE CERTAINLY PUSHED FOR TAX REFORM. AND YOU MIGHT CALL THAT CONSERVATIVE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PRO GROWTH.

Borg: ASIDE FROM SOCIAL ISSUES, DO YOU SEE THE WAR IN IRAQ AS THE LINCHPIN, ASIDE FROM SOCIAL ISSUES, FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE CONGRESS AND A LOT OF THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MUST BE MAKING?

King: YOU KNOW, SADLY, DEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING AS MUCH ABOUT THE WAR IN IRAQ AS I THINK WE SHOULD IN CONGRESS. I'VE BEEN THERE TWICE. I'VE MET SOLDIERS THERE. AND LAST WEEK I WENT OUT TO VISIT WOUNDED SOLDIERS AT BETHESDA -- I SHOULD SAY WOUNDED MARINES AND CORPSMEN THERE. WE NEED TO INCORPORATE IT MORE INTO OUR THINKING RATHER THAN LESS. IT SEEMS TO BE FINDING ITS PLACE WHERE IT'S PART OF OUR LIVES, AND WE CAN'T LOSE AMERICAN SOLDIERS AND JUST ACCEPT IT AS DAILY GOING ON, BUSINESS AS USUAL.

Borg: WELL, DO YOU SEE PROGRESS IN THAT OR THE WAR ON TERRORISM?

King: EVERY TIME I DECLARE PROGRESS, I SEE THE TREND IN THE CASUALTIES. NOW TODAY AS WE SIT HERE IN THE LAST REPORTING WEEK, WE'VE HAD THE FEWEST NUMBER OF HOSTILE CASUALTIES PER WEEK IN THE LAST 15 MONTHS. THAT'S A POSITIVE TREND BUT EACH TIME I SEE THAT POSITIVE TREND, IT DRIFTS BACK THE OTHER WAY. WE HAVE TO STAY AND FINISH THIS JOB. THE IRAQIS THAT I MEET THERE, THE DYNAMIC HAS CHANGED AND THEY WANT FREEDOM. THEY'VE GRASPED THAT FREEDOM AND 8.5 MILLION OF THEM PUT THEIR PURPLE FINGERS IN THE AIR PROUDLY. SO WHEN THE INSURGENTS UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'VE LOST, THAT'S WHEN THE VIOLENCE WILL CEASE. AND WE'RE HANDING THAT OVER MORE AND MORE TO THE IRAQIS EVERY DAY.

Glover: IS IT REALISTIC TO THINK OF PUTTING A TIMETABLE IN PLACE TO WHEN THE UNITED STATES SHOULD PULL ITS TROOPS OUT?

King: I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR ENEMIES THAT ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS GO UNDERGROUND AND WAIT US OUT AND THEY COULD EMERGE AS SOON AS THE U.S. WAS OUT OF THE FIELD.

Glover: AND FLIPPING THAT QUESTION ON ITS EAR, THERE ARE SOME NEOCONSERVATIVES -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COUNT YOURSELF AMONG THAT GROUP -- WHO ARGUE THAT THE U.S. OUGHT TO HAVE A PERMANENT PRESENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST, WE OUGHT TO HAVE BASES THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST TO ENSURE U.S. ACCESS TO OIL. WHAT'S YOUR VIEW ON THAT?

King: WELL, I KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION CONTINUALLY WHEN ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE, I POSED THE QUESTION BACK, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO. I WANT TO GET AMERICANS AWAY FROM THE LINE OF FIRE, AND I WANT IRAQIS TO BE PROVIDING SECURITY FOR IRAQIS. BUT THERE ARE GOOD MILITARY BASES IN THAT REGION. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS OUR INTENT TO DO THAT, TO SET THOSE UP WHEN WE WENT IN THERE. BUT BAGHDAD INTERNATIONAL IS A PRETTY TACTICALLY -- STRATEGICALLY EFFICIENT PLACE TO HAVE A BASE.

Henderson: YOU HAVE SYRIA DOING SOME RATTLING. YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM IN IRAN NEARBY. YOU ALSO HAVE NORTH KOREA AND ITS NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES ON THE MARCH. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE U.S. MILITARY ACROSS THE GLOBE, THAT WE AREN'T QUITE PREPARED AND THIS WAR HAS PUT THE COUNTRY IN DEFICITS THAT, WELL, I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE?

King: THE DEFICIT IS A SEPARATE SUBJECT FROM THE STRATEGIC POSITION OF THE UNITED STATES. AND, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH IRAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A BASE IN BAGHDAD. I SAT DOWN AND HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE AMBASSADORS FROM GERMANY AND FRANCE AND GREAT BRITAIN WHO WANTED THE UNITED STATES TO COME IN ON THEIR BIG THREE AND NEGOTIATE WITH IRAN ON ENDING THEIR EFFORTS TO BUILD NUCLEAR CAPABILITY AND DELIVERY CAPABILITY. I ASKED THEM AT THAT TIME: WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO; DO YOU WANT TO NEGOTIATE AND JUST STOP THERE; OR DO YOU WANT TO MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT STEP OF ECONOMIC SANCTIONS? AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC SANCTIONS. THAT WAS LAST FALL IN ABOUT NOVEMBER. SO I POSED TO THEM THAT IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND AND SAY THERE WILL BE A CONSEQUENCE, THERE'S NO POINT IN GOING DOWN THE DIPLOMATIC PATH. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE IN A POSITION TO NEGOTIATE, TO HAVE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS. BUT BEHIND THAT, WE HAVE TO BE IN A POSITION TO DRAW ANOTHER LINE IN THE SAND AND NOT LET THEM CROSS THAT, OR THIS WORLD COULD ERUPT INTO A NUCLEAR CONFLAGRATION.

Henderson: SO DO YOU SEE A SCENARIO WITHIN GEORGE BUSH'S SECOND TERM WHERE THE U.S. INVADES IRAN?

King: I SEE MORE OF A SCENARIO WHERE IF IT IS FRUITLESS TO -- IF WE CANNOT DIPLOMATICALLY OR THROUGH TRADE SANCTIONS RESOLVE THE ISSUE IN IRAN, THEN WE CANNOT LET THEM DEVELOP A NUCLEAR CAPABILITY. THAT WOULD STRATEGICALLY -- THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO ISRAEL AND THAT COULD OPEN UP THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST.

Glover: AND PRESENT IN KAY'S QUESTION WAS THE QUESTION OF THE BUDGET DEFICITS THAT HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY THIS FOREIGN INVOLVEMENT THAT WE HAVE. THE BUDGET DEFICITS HAVE GROWN TO RECORD HIGH LEVELS. DO THEY BOTHER YOU? THERE'S AN ARGUMENT THAT DEFICITS ARE SMALL ENOUGH AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT THAT WE SHOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT THEM. YOU'RE A CONSERVATIVE. DO THOSE DEFICITS BOTHER YOU?

King: I WANT A BALANCED BUDGET. AND I COSPONSORED -- I'M AN ORIGINAL COSPONSOR ON A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT FOR A BALANCED BUDGET. IT BOTHERS ME A LOT THAT WE'RE INTO DEFICIT SPENDING, AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SHOWN MORE RESTRAINT. AND WE ARE AT WAR AND WHEN WE'RE AT WAR, THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT YOU HAVE TO TIGHTEN YOUR BELT. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. AND I'VE WORKED WITHIN THE CONFERENCE TO REDUCE OUR SPENDING AS MUCH AS I CAN. I'VE SUPPORTED EVERY SINGLE BUDGET REFORM THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO SLOW THE SPENDING, AND YET THE FORCES THAT ARE IN THE CONGRESS HAS TO GET 218 VOTES TO PASS THE BUDGET.

Glover: WELL, WE'RE APPARENTLY IN A LONG-TERM INVOLVEMENT IN THESE THINGS OVERSEAS. AND THERE DOESN'T SEEM, TO ME, TO BE ANY PROGRESS TOWARDS RESOLVING THIS LONG-TERM INVOLVEMENT THAT'S CAUSING THE BUDGET DEFICITS. SO WHAT DO WE DO?

King: I DO THINK WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARDS THE LONG-TERM OF BEING ABLE TO RECEDE FROM IRAQ AND REDUCE TROOP NUMBERS THERE. I THINK WE'LL NEED A PRESENCE THERE FOR A LONG TIME, BUT WE NEED TO TIGHTEN THE BUDGET MORE. AND FROM THAT SIDE OF IT, WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN, THE CONSERVATIVES WITHIN THE CONFERENCE AT LEAST. BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT GROWTH. AND THAT'S WHY I'M PROMOTING, AND HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME, GOING TO A NATIONAL SALES TAX. WE CHANGE OUR WHOLE TAXING STRUCTURE IN AMERICA. RONALD REAGAN ONCE SAID THAT WHAT YOU TAX YOU GET LESS OF. SO WE TAX -- WE HAVE A FIRST LIEN -- THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A FIRST LIEN ON ALL PRODUCTIVITY IN AMERICA. AND WHENEVER YOU'RE GOING TO TAX SOMETHING, YOU GET LESS. IF YOU TAKE THE TAX OFF OF THAT, YOU'LL GET MORE. IF WE UNTAX OUR PRODUCTIVITY, ELIMINATE THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, PERSONAL INCOME TAX, CORPORATE INCOME TAX, DIVIDENDS, INTEREST INCOME, PENSION, CAPITAL GAINS, INHERITANCE TAX, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, PEOPLE WILL EARN A LOT MORE, THEY'LL PRODUCE A LOT MORE. THEY'LL PAY THE TAX WHEN THEY CONSUME, AND WE'LL DOUBLE OUR ECONOMY IN LESS THAN FIFTEEN YEARS.

Henderson: BUT HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT CONGRESS WOULD VOTE FOR SUCH SEISMIC CHANGE IN THE TAX CODE WHEN THEY HAVEN'T SEEMED LIKELY TO MAKE THAT MANY CHANGES?

King: IF THE PUBLIC UNDERSTOOD THIS, IF THE PUBLIC HAD STUDIED IT FOR 25 YEARS -- AND I SAY IN MY CASE THAT IS THE CASE -- NEXT MONTH CONGRESS WOULD PASS IT. WE'VE GOT TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE'VE RAISED SOME MONEY TO DO THAT, AND WE'LL START A NATIONWIDE CAMPAIGN TO GET THAT DONE.

Henderson: BUT DON'T YOU NEED A CAMPAIGN WITHIN CONGRESS?

King: I THINK THE CAMPAIGN WITHIN CONGRESS IS SOMEWHAT FRUITLESS IF THE PEOPLE AREN'T PUSHING CERTAIN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE CHANGED MY ATTITUDE ON. WHEN I CAME TO THE IOWA SENATE, I THOUGHT A GOOD IDEA ON PAPER SELLS ITSELF. THE CONSTITUENTS HAVE TO SELL IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT THEM.

Henderson: AND THE PRESIDENT HAS APPOINTED A GROUP TO LOOK AT TAX REFORM. DON'T YOU NEED HIM IN YOUR CORNER AS WELL?

King: YES. AND HE APPOINTED A TAX WRITING COMMISSION THAT WAS DESIGNED TO PUT PEOPLE AT THE TABLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE A BIAS. AND I HAVE A CERTAIN BIAS ABOUT THAT KIND OF A COMMISSION, WHICH IS IF YOU CAN FIND SOMEONE WITHOUT A BIAS ON TAXES, YOU'LL FIND SOMEONE UNINFORMED ON TAXES, SO WE NEED TO ALSO INFORM THAT COMMISSION.

Glover: AND ANOTHER CONTROVERSY THAT'S RAGING WITHIN CONGRESS IS ABOUT THE INTERNAL OPERATIONS OF CONGRESS ITSELF, SPECIFICALLY HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER TOM DELAY. IS HE BECOMING A PROBLEM FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING THE ETHICAL CHARGES LEVELED AGAINST HIM?

King: I THINK THE RELENTLESS, DAILY NATIONAL PRESS ASSAULT ON HIM HAS -- IT'S CERTAINLY CAUSED SOME PROBLEMS. WE'VE HAD TO ADJUST OUR RULES A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT MAKES IT HARDER TO DO BUSINESS. I CAN TELL YOU TOM DELAY IS FOCUSED. HE'S FOCUSED ON THE AGENDA AND FOCUSED ON ISSUES. BUT I WILL SAY THIS, THAT IF THE DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE DECIDED THAT THIS WAS THEIR GAME PLAN WILL HOLD THEIR OWN MEMBERS UP TO THE SAME LEVEL OF SCRUTINY, THEN YOU'LL SEE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONFERENCE THAT WILL LEAVE THE CAUCUS BEFORE TOM DELAY LEAVES OUR CONFERENCE.

Glover: SO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE?

King: I THINK WE NEED TO JUST ENFORCE THE RULES. WE NEED TO HAVE OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE NEED TO GET IT OUT IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. WE NEED TO AIR IT OUT. AND TOM DELAY HAS ASKED FOR THAT OR HAS STILL, AFTER WE BACKED THE RULES UP TO THE 108TH CONGRESS, WE STILL CAN'T GET THE ETHICS COMMITTEE TO CONVENE BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS STILL OBSTRUCT. IT'S CLEAR IT'S BEEN THEIR GAME PLAN. THEY SAID SO A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND THEY FOLLOWED THROUGH ON IT.

Henderson: LET'S TURN TO SOCIAL SECURITY. PRESIDENT BUSH HAS BEEN TRAVELING THE COUNTRY WITH HIS OWN PROPOSAL IN REGARDS TO SOCIAL SECURITY. DO YOU FULLY BACK THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN?

King: I'M NOT SURE THERE IS A COMPLETE PLAN YET PRESENTED BY THE PRESIDENT. THE CONCEPT THAT THE PRESIDENT DELIVERS IS THAT THERE WILL BE PERSONAL RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS ALONG WITH ANY SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM.

Henderson: DO YOU BACK THAT?

King: I BACK THE PERSONAL RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS. I'VE THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE A GOOD IDEA FOR A LONG TIME. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S SOMETHING AS A YOUNG MAN I WISH I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INVEST IN. I WILL SAY THIS, THAT THERE IS NO SHORT-TERM SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM IN SOCIAL SECURITY AND THERE IS NO MIDTERM SOLUTION. WE CAN RAISE THE RATES AND WE CAN REDUCE THE BENEFITS AND SAY WE FIXED IT, BUT THE DEMOGRAPHIC LINE WILL SHIFT AGAIN. AND SO THE ONLY SOLUTION TO SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM IS THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION THAT HAS TO INCLUDE PERSONAL RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS, OR WE HAVE NO SOLUTION AT ALL. WE HAVE A DEBT. WE HAVE A LIABILITY TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION, A SACRED COVENANT TO KEEP WITH OUR SENIORS. WE'LL KEEP THAT BUT WE NEED TO WORK FOR A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.

Glover: AS PART OF THAT LONG-TERM SOLUTION, ISN'T IT OBVIOUS THAT THERE HAS TO BE EITHER AN ADJUSTMENT IN THE LEVEL OF TAXATION OR IN THE LEVEL OF BENEFITS? IN FACT, PERSONAL ACCOUNTS DON'T DO ANYTHING TO DEAL WITH THE SOLVENCY OF SOCIAL SECURITY. PERSONAL ACCOUNTS ARE JUST A WAY OF LETTING PEOPLE GOVERN THEIR OWN FINANCES.

King: THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK A FEW YEARS AGO ABOUT A LOCKBOX FOR SOCIAL SECURITY. AND ANYBODY THAT TALKED ABOUT A LOCKBOX, THAT PROMISED A LOCKBOX PROBABLY DIDN'T GO TO PARKERSBURG, WEST VIRGINIA, AND REACH INTO THE FILING CABINET FOR A LITTLE SAMPLE OF WHAT YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND IS. THIS REPRESENTS $5.9 BILLION PRINTED ON A PIECE OF COPY PAPER. THE PAPER IS WORTH MORE THAN THE PROMISE THAT'S ON IT. BUT THIS FUND HAS SUPPOSEDLY TODAY HAS $1.7 TRILLION IN FILING CABINETS IN THESE KIND OF NONNEGOTIABLE GOVERNMENT BONDS IN PARKERSBURG, WEST VIRGINIA. THERE IS NO LOCKBOX. THERE IS NO TRUST FUND, AND WE'LL BEGIN SPENDING MORE THAN WE TAKE IN IN 2017.

Glover: BUT THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS -- EXCUSE ME. THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS DON'T YOU AT SOME POINT HAVE TO EITHER RAISE TAXES OR CUT BENEFITS?

King: WE MAY HAVE TO DO THAT, MIKE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION BY DOING THAT BECAUSE THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE WORKING AGAINST US. PERSONAL RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS DOWN THE ROAD 25 YEARS, 30 YEARS OR MORE, GET PEOPLE ACTUALLY OFF OF SOCIAL SECURITY. AS SOON AS THEY CAN ANNUITIZE THEIR RETIREMENT PLAN, THEY WON'T BE A LIABILITY TO THE GOVERNMENT ANY LONGER. SO THIS WILL BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

Henderson: SO YOUR ANSWER IS TO END SOCIAL SECURITY.

King: MY ANSWER IS TO GIVE PEOPLE HOPE TO TRANSITION OUT OF IT ON A VOLUNTARILY BASIS AND LET THE FREE MARKET DO IT.

Borg: LET'S GO BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER: IT HAS TO BE SOLD TO THE PEOPLE; YOU SAID IT CAN'T BE SOLD IN THE CONGRESS. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT PEOPLE ARE BUYING VERY MUCH THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN SOCIAL SECURITY. HOW WILL YOU DO THAT?

King: WELL, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT OBSERVATION. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT SOCIAL SECURITY UP AS THE LEAD ISSUE FOR THE SECOND BUSH AGENDA -- THE SECOND BUSH TERM AGENDA. I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT TAX REFORM. AND IN THE FORM OF THAT TAX REFORM, THEN WE CAN SEE WHERE THE DIRECTION WAS GOING FOR OUR ECONOMY AND BETTER FIT A SOCIAL SECURITY SOLUTION. I THINK ALSO THAT THE PRESIDENT NEEDED TO PUT TOGETHER A SOCIAL SECURITY PLAN THAT WAS A COMPLETE PLAN ON PAPER, WRITE A BILL, DELIVER IT TO CONGRESS, AND THEN LET US DEBATE IT AND AMEND IT. SO WE'VE GOT A DIFFICULT POLITICAL SCENARIO HERE TO WORK WITH. AND I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I'M RESIGNED TO ITS FAILURE; I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP TRYING TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT IT'S A DIFFICULT UPHILL BATTLE AT THAT POINT.

Glover: AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, ANY CONCRETE INDICATION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, POLLS, WHATEVER, TELLS US THAT HIS SALES JOB ISN'T WORKING. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

King: I THINK THAT WE ANTICIPATED A BETTER RETURN ON HIS PUBLIC RELATIONS INVESTMENT, MIKE. AND YOU KNOW, THE AARP CAME OUT AGAINST THIS BEFORE THERE WAS A PLAN. AND THEY SPENT SOME MONEY TO OPPOSE IT BEFORE THEY REALLY KNEW WHAT SOME OF THE -- EVEN SOME OF THE BULLET POINTS WERE. THAT'S BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT HILL TO CLIMB. AND YET WE KNOW -- ALL OF US AGREE THAT THOSE 55 AND UP ARE NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY ANY PROPOSAL AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO GUARANTEE THE BENEFITS FOR THEM. SO IT'S THE YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT OUGHT TO BE ENGAGED IN THIS. IF THEY DON'T ENGAGE, THERE WON'T BE A REFORM FOR SOCIAL SECURITY, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A REAL DEFICIT TO MEET ABOUT 2017.

Glover: AND IF WE COULD TURN FOR A SECOND TO POLITICS. I KNOW YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT POLITICS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF FAIRLY HOT RACES COMING UP. ONE OF THEM IS FOR GOVERNOR OF IOWA. JUST THAT PAST WEEK JIM NUSSLE FORMALLY ANNOUNCED HIS CAMPAIGN FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION. DO YOU HAVE A FAVORITE IN THE GUBERNATORIAL RACE?

King: I DO NOT HAVE A FAVORITE. I AM GOING TO BE STUDIOUSLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ON THAT AND STRADDLE THE FENCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THEY'RE BOTH GOOD CANDIDATES AND I KNOW THEM BOTH PERSONALLY AND I'VE WORKED WITH THEM BOTH PROFESSIONALLY. AND BOTH OF THEM WILL DO IOWA PROUD. LET'S TAKE IT OUT THERE IN THE OPEN PRIMARY FIELD AND DO BATTLE THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED AND MAY THE BEST MAN WIN.

Glover: AND YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOU WANT TO ESTABLISH A STATEWIDE PRECEDENT TO HELP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AS THEY COME TO IOWA TO CAMPAIGN. DO YOU HAVE A FAVORITE AMONG THOSE WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT?

King: YOU KNOW, MIKE, I DON'T HAVE. I LOOK ACROSS THE WHOLE FIELD, AND I ASK THAT QUESTION: WHERE ARE THEY ON TAXES; WHERE ARE THEY ON NATIONAL SECURITY, THE WAR IN IRAQ, FOR EXAMPLE; AND WHERE ARE THEY ON IMMIGRATION? AND IMMIGRATION IS THE BIG SLEEPING ISSUE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE SUBJECT THAT NO ONE WANTED TO TOUCH IN THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, THE SUBJECT THAT THESE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES DON'T WANT TO TOUCH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IOWANS AND AMERICANS WANT TO HAVE A NATIONAL DEBATE ON.

Glover: WELL, LET'S TURN THAT QUESTION ON ITS EAR, THEN. ARE THERE POTENTIAL CANDIDATES OUT THERE THAT YOU JUST DON'T THINK YOU COULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH?

King: I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT IN THOSE TERMS. I'M KIND OF THE WILL ROGERS OF PEOPLE. I REALLY LIKE PEOPLE PERSONALLY, SO I DON'T KEEP A LIST OF THOSE I DON'T WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH.

Glover: WELL, YOU MENTIONED JOHN MCCAIN IN A RATHER DERISIVE MANNER EARLIER. HE'S BEEN MENTIONED. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD SUPPORT JOHN MCCAIN?

King: I THINK JOHN MCCAIN WOULD HAVE TO DO A 180 ON IMMIGRATION, AND HE'D HAVE TO GO TO BILL FRIST AND SAY, BOY, I'M REALLY SORRY I THREW THAT WRENCH IN YOUR GEARS. AND THEN WE COULD TALK.

Henderson: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT IMMIGRATION. WHAT DO YOU SEE IS THE PRESCRIPTION OR THE PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED?

King: IT'S A WHOLE SPECTRUM OF ISSUES. ONE THING IS WE HAVE TO SEAL OUR BORDER. THE SECOND ONE IS WE HAVE TO ENFORCE DOMESTICALLY OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. AND WE'VE GOT TO ALSO ADDRESS THE SUBJECT MATTER THAT IS BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES IS A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS, SOMEHOW WE CAN'T HAVE A LOGICAL IMMIGRATION POLICY THAT'S DESIGNED TO ENHANCE THE ECONOMIC, THE SOCIAL, AND THE CULTURAL WELL BEING OF THE UNITED STATES.

Henderson: SO WHY IS A GUY FROM IOWA INTERESTED IN IMMIGRATION WHEN IT'S MOST KEENLY FELT IN PLACES LIKE TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA AND ARIZONA?

King: I REALLY CARE ABOUT THE DESTINY OF THIS COUNTRY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ISSUES THAT I WEIGHED IN ON HEAVILY -- TAX REFORM, ELIMINATE THE IRS -- THAT CHANGES OUR ECONOMIC DESTINY. AND THE ECONOMIC AND THE FUTURE OF THE DESTINY OF AMERICA IS GOING TO BE SHAPED A LOT BY IMMIGRATION POLICY. SO I'VE DRAFTED A BILL THAT WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF COSPONSORS ON NOW. THERE WILL BE -- IT WILL BE FILED WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS. IT'S CALLED THE NEW IDEA BILL. IT STANDS FOR THE NEW "ILLEGAL DEDUCTION ELIMINATION ACT." SO WHAT WE DO IS REMOVE FEDERAL DEDUCTABILITY FOR WAGES AND BENEFITS THAT ARE PAID TO ILLEGALS. WE GIVE A SAFE HARBOR FOR ANYONE WHO USES THE INTERNET-BASED INSTANT CHECK PROGRAM. SO IF THEY VERIFY THAT THEY'RE LEGAL TO HIRE, THEN PUT THEM TO WORK, THE IRS WON'T GO IN AND CHARGE THEM INTEREST AND PENALTY ON AN AUDIT. BUT IF THEY DON'T VERIFY, THE IRS CAN DO AN AUDIT. THERE'S A SIX-YEAR STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. THAT WILL CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF THIS AND IT WILL SHOW THIS GROWTH AND THIS JOBS MAGNET THAT'S DRIVING OUR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

Glover: AS A GENERAL QUESTION, HAVE WE BEEN TOO LIBERAL, ALLOWED TOO MANY IMMIGRANTS TO COME TO AMERICA?

King: FROM THE LEGAL -- FROM THE LEGAL WINDOW, I THINK NO. THAT'S ABOUT 450,000 A YEAR, IF MY NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, AND WE NEED HEALTHY IMMIGRATION. AND WE OUGHT TO BE SELFISH ABOUT OUR IMMIGRATION POLICY. WE SHOULD GO AROUND THE WORLD AND RECRUIT THE BEST PEOPLE WE CAN GET TO COME IN AND INJECT INTO OUR ECONOMY AND OUR SOCIETY IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE FASHION POSSIBLE. BUT WE JUST SIMPLY CAN'T BE THE RELIEF VALVE FOR ALL THE POVERTY IN THE WORLD. AND THERE ARE 4.6 BILLION PEOPLE ON THE PLANET THAT HAVE A LOWER STANDARD OF LIVING THAN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN IN MEXICO. SO WE JUST CAN'T BE THE RELIEF VALVE FOR POVERTY.

Henderson: HOW DO YOU CLOSE THE BORDER? THERE ARE NOW VOLUNTEERS ROAMING THE BORDER TRYING TO PUT A CURB ON IMMIGRATION. IS THAT HOW YOU DO IT?

King: THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS TO DO IT. AND I'VE BEEN TO THE BORDER AND VISITED THE BORDER PATROL AND FLOWN THE NIGHT PATROLS AND STAYED THERE OVER THE WEEKEND AND TRACKED IT SO THAT I UNDERSTAND IT, AT LEAST AT A GREATER DEGREE, THOSE EVENTS. ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO FROM THE LEGAL CHECKPOINTS IS WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD THE U.S. VISIT PROGRAM SO WE CAN HAVE A DATABASE TO CHECK YOUR PASSPORT IN AND OUT OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S ONE THING. YES, WE CAN CONTROL THE BORDER AND WE CAN PUT MORE PEOPLE ON THE BORDER. THEY PROVED IT. THE MINUTEMEN PROVED CLEARLY THAT WE CAN SEAL THE BORDER. AND I SUPPORTED AN AMENDMENT AND SPOKE ON THE FLOOR IN FAVOR OF IT LAST WEEK -- I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE WEEK BEFORE LAST -- THAT WOULD DEPLOY OUR MILITARY TO THE BORDER. NOW, THAT'S GREAT TERRAIN TO TRAIN TO GO TO IRAQ. YOU NEED TO KEEP AN ARMY BUSY. WE HAVE NATIONAL GUARD PEOPLE DOWN THERE NOW. THEY'RE WEARING BULLETPROOF VESTS AND HELMETS, AND THEY'RE IDENTIFYING THE ILLEGALS AS THEY COME ACROSS THE BORDER. WE COULD JUST PUT MORE THERE.

Glover: AND YOU REPRESENT ONE OF THE MOST RURAL CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS IN THIS COUNTRY. THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW FARM BILL IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. ONE OF THE BIG FIGHTS IN A FARM BILL IS OVER LIMITATIONS TO SUBSIDY PAYMENTS TO LARGE FARMERS. DO YOU SUPPORT THOSE LIMITATIONS, AND WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN A FARM BILL?

King: I'VE NOT TAKEN A POSITION ON PAYMENT LIMITATIONS. I WANT TO SEE HOW THE LANGUAGE COMES OUT. I'VE NOT DRAFTED ANY MYSELF. I UNDERSTAND SENATOR GRASSLEY HAS. BUT CAN YOU MAKE THEM STICK OR DO THEY JUST CREATE SOME NEW MORE LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANIES? AND WILL ONE LAWYER WRITE THE SAME PLAN FOR 50 BIG FARMERS IN IOWA? THE COTTON FARMERS ARE THE ONES WE NEED TO FENCE IN ANYWAY DOWN SOUTH, AND THIS MAY DO THAT. SO I'D WANT TO KNOW IF IT WAS EFFECTIVE BEFORE I WOULD SUPPORT IT. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE, THOUGH, I WANT TO EXPAND A CONSERVATION SECURITY PROGRAM. THAT'S BEEN HELPFUL TO US HERE IN IOWA. BY THE WAY, I'M DRAFTING AN ANIMAL IDENTIFICATION BILL. IF WE CAN GET THAT PASSED AND GET IT STARTED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO OPEN UP OUR BEEF EXPORTS TO ASIA. THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF IT. WE'VE GOT TO ALSO BE ABLE TO SHRINK OUR BUDGET TO SOME DEGREE. THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE FARM BILL AS WE CALL IT, THE FOOD SECURITY ACT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY DECLARE IT TO BE. AT ONE POINT THERE WAS 19 PERCENT WASTE IN THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM IN AMERICA. THAT WENT DOWN TO 9 AND NOW IT'S DOWN TO 6 PERCENT. THERE'S STILL ROOM THERE TO TRIM THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO THAT. BUT I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SOIL CONSERVATION. FOR ONE THING, THAT'S BEEN MY PROFESSION. AND I THINK ALSO WE HAVE TO TAKE A REAL ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT AND INTEREST IN WTO TRADE NEGOTIATIONS. THEY WILL DICTATE MORE WHAT GOES ON WITH THE FARM BILL THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO.

Borg: I'M GOING BACK TO YOUR COMMENTS ON THE PRESIDENT MAY NOT HAVE DONE THE BEST P.R. JOB ON SOCIAL SECURITY. DO YOU THINK THAT HE HAS SPENT THAT CAPITAL -- THAT POLITICAL CAPITAL THAT HE SAID HE HAD AFTER THE ELECTION? IS THAT RUNNING LOW FOR THIS PRESIDENT?

King: I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL KNOW TILL THE END OF HIS TERM AND MAYBE WHEN HISTORIANS WRITE THE HISTORY OF HIS SECOND TERM WHETHER HE HAS SPENT HIS POLITICAL CAPITAL DOWN TO A LOW POINT WHERE HE DOESN'T HAVE THE INFLUENCE TO GET THINGS DONE THE WAY HE MIGHT HAVE. I JUST LAMENT THAT HE DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE SHOOT IN THE SECOND ADMINISTRATION WITH TAX REFORM. AND I DO THINK THE SOCIAL SECURITY EFFORT HAS DRAINED A LOT OF HIS POLITICAL CAPITAL. WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HE'S GOT IN THE TANK.

Glover: IS HE A LAME DUCK?

King: ALL SECOND-TERM PRESIDENTS ARE LAME DUCKS. AND HOW MUCH POWER HE KEEPS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY IS THE QUESTION. I THINK HE'S A VERY INFLUENTIAL LAME-DUCK PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T NOTICE THAT HE'S ESSENTIALLY WEAK. I SEE HIM AS HAVING BIG INFLUENCE IN THE CONGRESS YET.

Borg: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SPENDING TIME WITH US TODAY.

King: THANK YOU, DEAN. IT WAS A PLEASURE.

Borg: ON OUR NEXT EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS," WE FOCUS ON HIGHER EDUCATION AND THE NEW COMPOSITION, IF YOU CAN PUT IT THAT WAY, OF THE BOARD OF REGENTS FOR THE STATE OF IOWA. JOINING US WILL BE THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE NINE-MEMBER BOARD, MICHAEL GARTNER. HE'LL BE HERE TO DISCUSS THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE OF IOWA'S THREE STATE UNIVERSITIES -- THE UNIVERSITY OF IOWA IN IOWA CITY, IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY IN AMES, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN IOWA IN CEDAR FALLS -- AS WELL AS THE SPECIAL SCHOOLS FOR THE DEAF AND THE BLIND. THAT'S NEXT WEEKEND, REGULAR AIRTIMES: 7:30 FRIDAY; SUNDAY AT NOON. I HOPE YOU'LL WATCH. I'M DEAN BORG. THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY. CAPTIONS BY: MIDWEST CAPTIONING DES MOINES, IOWA

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