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Bob Vander Plaats

posted on September 26, 2005

Borg: TWO CANDIDATES WANT THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR GOVERNOR OF IOWA. ONE OF THEM IS BOB VANDER PLAATS OF SIOUX CITY. WE'LL QUESTION HIM ON THIS EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS." FUNDING FOR "IOWA PRESS" WAS PROVIDED BY "FRIENDS," THE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION FOUNDATION; AND BY THE IOWA BANKERS ASSOCIATION... FOR PERSONAL, BUSINESS, AND COMMERCIAL NEEDS, IOWA BANKS HELP IOWANS REACH THEIR FINANCIAL GOALS. ON STATEWIDE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION, THIS IS THE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 23 EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS." HERE IS DEAN BORG.

Borg: ON THE COMMON CALENDAR, THE 2006 GENERAL ELECTION IS STILL A LITTLE MORE THAN THIRTEEN MONTHS AWAY, BUT ON THE POLITICAL CALENDAR, THE ALIGNMENT OF CANDIDATES HOPING TO SUCCEED RETIRING GOVERNOR TOM VILSACK IS WELL INTO THE ELECTION CYCLE. ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, TWO FAMILIAR NAMES SEEKING THE PARTY'S NOMINATION. ONE OF THEM IS JIM NUSSLE OF MANCHESTER, WHO REPRESENTS EASTERN AND NORTHEASTERN IOWA RIGHT NOW IN CONGRESS. THE OTHER IS SIOUX CITY BUSINESSMAN BOB VANDER PLAATS. VANDER PLAATS IS IN FAMILIAR TERRITORY. IN HIS FIRST TRY AT PUBLIC OFFICE, VANDER PLAATS FINISHED THIRD IN THE 2002 GUBERNATORIAL PRIMARY, AND THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION WENT TO DOUG GROSS. MR. VANDER PLAATS, WELCOME BACK TO "IOWA PRESS."

Vander Plaats: IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE.

Borg: AND ACROSS THE TABLE, TWO PEOPLE YOU KNOW VERY WELL: "DES MOINES REGISTER" POLITICAL COLUMNIST DAVID YEPSEN, AND "ASSOCIATED PRESS" SENIOR POLITICAL WRITER MIKE GLOVER.

Glover: MR. VANDER PLAATS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LIKE TO DO IN SHOWS LIKE THIS IS GIVE CANDIDATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR CASE, SO I'D LIKE YOU TO GIVE US THE COMMERCIAL. WHY SHOULD BOB VANDER PLAATS BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR GOVERNOR?

Vander Plaats: WELL, IOWA IS A GREAT STATE, MIKE, AND THIS STATE HAS SERVED ME EXTREMELY WELL. AND I HAVE FOUR BOYS. DARLA AND I HAVE FOUR BOYS, AND WE WANT THEM TO FIND OPPORTUNITY IN IOWA, AND WE WANT THEM TO CHOOSE IOWA. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PARENTS WHO WANT TO HAVE THEIR CHILDREN CHOOSE IOWA TO LIVE. BUT I BELIEVE IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, IOWA NEEDS LEADERSHIP. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE LEADERSHIP FROM THE OUTSIDE. NOT POLITICS AS USUAL. NOT SOMEBODY THAT'S PARADIGMED BY THE POLITICS OF THE PAST. I THINK WE HAVE SOME REAL ISSUES FACING US IN THE STATE OF IOWA FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH, FOR EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION, AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE HEALTH CARE. ABOUT MANAGEMENT OF STATE GOVERNMENT, I THINK WE NEED A CEO TODAY. BUT I THINK FOR REPUBLICANS TO WIN, WE WILL NEED A FRESH FACE, WE'LL NEED SOMEBODY WITHOUT A POLITICAL RECORD THAT THE DEMOCRATS CAN ATTACK, AND SOMEBODY WHO CAN REALLY HAVE A REAL RECORD OF RESULTS AND LEADERSHIP TO LEAD THIS STATE.

Glover: AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IN PRIMARY ELECTIONS IS PRIMARY VOTERS PICK A CANDIDATE WHO THEY THINK HAS THE BEST SHOT OF WINNING. WHAT'S THE CASE FOR YOU WINNING THE GOVERNORSHIP?

Vander Plaats: I THINK IT'S EXACTLY THAT. AN INCUMBENT CONGRESSMAN HAS NEVER WON THE OFFICE OF GOVERNOR IN THE STATE OF IOWA'S HISTORY. TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE IS THAT OUR OPPONENTS LOVE TO ATTACK RECORDS. I DO NOT HAVE A VOTING RECORD. MY RECORD IS RESULTS IN THE CLASSROOM, RESULTS OF LEADING THE HIGH SCHOOL FACILITY, RESULTS OF BEING A TURNAROUND CEO IN HEALTH CARE AND HUMAN SERVICES. I THINK IOWANS WANT SOMEBODY TODAY WHO HAS A REAL-LIFE RECORD OF RESULTS AND WHO CAN GET THE JOB DONE. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT'S GOING TO WIN FOR REPUBLICANS IN NOVEMBER.

Yepsen: MR. VANDER PLAATS, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE ARGUMENT THAT IT'S JIM NUSSLE'S TURN, THAT YOUR PARTY IS -- PARTY ESTABLISHMENT SEEMS TO BE ANOINTING MR. NUSSLE? HE LEADS IN SOME OF THE POLLS. HE'S AHEAD OF YOU IN MONEY. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT ARGUMENT?

Vander Plaats: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK OUR PARTY SHOULD BE IN ABOUT WHOSE TURN IS IT. I THINK WE'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD BEFORE ABOUT WHOSE TURN IS IT FOR REPUBLICANS, ONLY TO GET BEAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AS FAR AS MR. NUSSLE BEING ANOINTED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT, I BELIEVE SENATOR GRASSLEY IS NEUTRAL. OUR OTHER THREE REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN ARE NEUTRAL. THE RGA, REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION, AND THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE IS NEUTRAL. I THINK THEY'RE SMART IN SAYING LET'S LET THIS PRIMARY PLAY ITSELF OUT. WE HAVE TWO VERY GOOD CANDIDATES HERE. LET'S HAVE A SPIRITED PRIMARY, BUT LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE TOGETHER AT THE END OF THE DAY.

Yepsen: AND BACK TO MIKE'S QUESTION. ARE THERE SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT SEPARATE YOU FROM JIM NUSSLE?

Vander Plaats: I BELIEVE -- I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO TALK BAD ABOUT MY OPPONENT. JIM IS A GOOD GUY BUT JIM HAS GARNERED ALL OF HIS EXPERIENCE IN THE POLITICAL REALM. AND IF PEOPLE WANT THAT FOR THEIR NEXT LEADER, THEN I SAY VOTE FOR JIM NUSSLE. MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN THE CLASSROOM. IT'S BEEN LEADING THE HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S BEEN BEING A TURNAROUND CEO OF A HEALTH CARE AND HUMAN SERVICES ORGANIZATION, OF BEING A PRESIDENT AND CEO TODAY OF BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY. I THINK IOWANS WANT REAL-LIFE RESULTS, AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CONGRESSMAN AND MYSELF.

Borg: THE WAY YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION AND THE EARLIER ONE FROM MIKE SORT OF ANSWERS THE ONE THAT I'M GOING POSE TO YOU, AND THAT IS THAT YOU ARE, AS I SAID IN THE INTRODUCTION, MAKING A FIRST TRY AT ELECTIVE OFFICE -- OR SECOND TRY AT ELECTIVE OFFICE BUT YOU'VE NEVER HELD ELECTIVE OFFICE AND YET YOU'RE RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR OF IOWA. I CAN SEE HOW YOU ARE TRYING TO MITIGATE OR DEFLECT THAT. BUT HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO PERSUADE PEOPLE TO ENTRUST THE GOVERNORSHIP OF A STATE TO SOMEONE WHO'S NEVER HELD POLITICAL ELECTIVE OFFICE?

Vander Plaats: BECAUSE, DEAN, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT LEADERSHIP JUST ISN'T HONED IN THE POLITICAL ARENA. I THINK LEADERSHIP IS HONED IN THE REAL LIFE, OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE DOING THE JOB. WE HAVE A FORMER GOVERNOR, BOB RAY, WHO NEVER HELD PUBLIC OFFICE BEFORE BUT THEN BECAME GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF IOWA. ANOTHER GOVERNOR, HAROLD HUGHES, NEVER HAD PUBLIC OFFICE BEFORE BUT THEN BECAME GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF IOWA. HE WAS A TRUCK DRIVER BEFORE. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT MY BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE, 80 PERCENT OF THE STATE BUDGET IS TIED UP IN EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, AND HUMAN SERVICES. THAT'S MY BACKGROUND. THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE. I THINK IOWANS DON'T WANT POLITICS AS USUAL. THEY WANT LEADERSHIP TODAY. AND IN ANY BOARDROOM I GET INTO, THE LEADERSHIP FUNDAMENTALS ARE CONSTANT, WHETHER IT BE OF A CHURCH, A NONPROFIT CORPORATION, A SCHOOL, OR A BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY. AND I THINK I CAN PROVIDE THAT LEADERSHIP FOR THE STATE OF IOWA.

Glover: YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT APPROACHES YOU HAVE TO POLITICS AND YOUR APPROACH TO LIKES THAT YOU HAVE WITH JIM NUSSLE. LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME ISSUES. GIVE ME THREE ISSUES ON WHICH YOU HAVE DIFFERENT POSITIONS THAN JIM NUSSLE THAT YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN TO REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTERS.

Vander Plaats: I'M NOT SO SURE IF IT'S A THING ABOUT HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE ON ISSUES BETWEEN BOB VANDER PLAATS AND JIM NUSSLE. I THINK I'M VERY FOCUSED ON HOW DO WE GROW THIS ECONOMY.

Glover: ARE THERE DIFFERENCES ON ISSUES?

Vander Plaats: I THINK THERE ARE DIFFERENCES, AND THEY WILL BE EXPOSED WITHIN THE PRIMARY.

Glover: WELL, EXPOSE THEM RIGHT NOW.

Vander Plaats: WELL, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, MIKE, IS GIVE PEOPLE SOMETHING TO VOTE FOR RATHER THAN SOMETHING TO VOTE AGAINST.

Glover: OKAY, LET'S HAVE THAT.

Vander Plaats: AS FAR AS SOMETHING TO VOTE FOR, LET'S HAVE LEADERSHIP ON GROWING THE STATE OF IOWA. WE RANK 48TH OUT OF 50 IN THE COUNTRY TODAY BY THE U.S. CENSUS BUREAU IN TERMS OF GROWTH, WHICH MEANS THAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT FINDING OPPORTUNITY HERE. WE EDUCATE THEM, THEY GRADUATE FROM OUR STAGES, BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO GO ELSEWHERE TO FIND OPPORTUNITY. I WANT THEM TO FIND OPPORTUNITY IN THE STATE OF IOWA.

Yepsen: SO HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

Vander Plaats: I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO, DAVE, IS WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THE QUICK FIXES, SUCH AS THE VALUES FUND, SUCH AS THE EXPANSION OF GAMBLING. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO PUT IN THE FUNDAMENTALS OF LONG-TERM HARVESTS. I THINK WE NEED TO SIMPLIFY IOWA'S INCOME TAX. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST CONFUSING AND COMPLEX IN THE ENTIRE UNION. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DRASTICALLY REDUCE PROPERTY TAXES AND MAKE PRIVATE VENTURE CAPITAL AVAILABLE IN THE STATE OF IOWA, WHERE INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESS LEADERS AND ENTREPRENEURS ARE INVESTING IN IOWA. RIGHT NOW PRIVATE INVESTMENT MONEY IN THE STATE OF IOWA RANKS 47TH OUT OF 50 IN THE COUNTRY OF PRIVATE PEOPLE INVESTING IN THE STATE OF IOWA. THAT HAS TO CHANGE. SO WE NEED A COMPETITIVE TAX STRUCTURE, WE NEED A FRIENDLY REGULATORY STRUCTURE, AND WE NEED A FAIR TORT STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO GROW THIS STATE.

Yepsen: HOW DO YOU REDUCE PROPERTY TAXES? EVERY POLITICIAN I'VE COVERED FOR THIRTY-FOUR YEARS HAS WANTED TO REDUCE PROPERTY TAXES, YET IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO WHAT'S YOUR SPECIAL RECIPE FOR DOING THAT?

Vander Plaats: WELL, YOU'RE PLAYING RIGHT INTO MY CAMPAIGN. IF WE LISTEN TO POLITICS AS USUAL, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE LEADERSHIP. I BELIEVE THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS TAKE THE K-12 INSTRUCTIONAL PORTION OFF THE BACK OF PROPERTY TAXES AND PUT IT AT THE STATE LEVEL. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE MENTAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY OFF THE BACK OF PROPERTY TAXES AND PUT IT AT THE STATE LEVEL. IN THE INITIAL MODELING THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH FORMER STATE AUDITOR DICK JOHNSON, WHO IS ON OUR TEAM, BY SIMPLIFYING IOWA'S INCOME TAX AND BY TAKING THOSE ELEMENTS OFF THE PROPERTY TAX ROLLS, IT CAN BE CASH NEUTRAL OR CASH PLUS, BUT IT WILL MAKE IOWA MORE COMPETITIVE. WE NEED TO GET THESE SMALL BUSINESSES TO DEVELOP AND GROW. IOWA IS BUILT ON THE BACKBONE OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES. WE NEED TO ALLOW THEM TO DEVELOP AND GROW, AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH PROPERTY TAXES.

Glover: SO YOU WOULD TAKE K-12 EDUCATION --

Vander Plaats: INSTRUCTIONAL.

Glover: WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN INSTRUCTIONAL?

Vander Plaats: MEANING NOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUT THE INSTRUCTIONAL PORTION OF K-12 OFF THE BACK OF PROPERTY TAXES, AND MENTAL HEALTH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.

Glover: HOW MUCH IS THAT?

Vander Plaats: I BELIEVE K-12 IS JUST OVER A BILLION DOLLARS. AND MENTAL HEALTH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RAW NUMBER IS ON THAT.

Glover: BUT YOU WOULD TAKE THAT OFF THE PROPERTY TAX ROLLS AND PUT IT ON THE STATE INCOME TAXES ROLLS?

Vander Plaats: YES, I WOULD. AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO, MIKE, IS WE WOULD SIMPLIFY THE FUNDING BACK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS VERSUS DISSECTING THE FUNDING BACK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU DISSECT THE FUNDING BACK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, YOU IN ESSENCE TIE EVERY LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD'S HANDS AND YOU SAY WE'RE GOING TO USE A COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH TO EDUCATION. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE TEXTBOOK FUNDING, TECHNOLOGY FUNDING, TEACHER SALARY FUNDING, ALL THESE DIFFERENT FUNDING STREAMS THAT COME INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DISSECTED, BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO SPEND IT ON TEXTBOOKS, THEY HAVE TO SPEND IT ON TECHNOLOGY. I'M SAYING SIMPLIFY THAT FUNDING BACK AND LET THE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS LEAD.

Yepsen: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE ARGUMENT THAT THAT'S GOING TO MEAN A HUGE INCREASE IN THE STATE INCOME TAX?

Vander Plaats: I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO MAKE A HUGE INCREASE IN THE STATE INCOME TAX.

Yepsen: WELL, THERE ISN'T -- MR. VANDER PLAATS, THERE ISN'T A BILLION DOLLARS JUST SLOSHING AROUND IN THE STATE TREASURY LOOKING FOR A HOME.

Vander Plaats: WELL, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS BECAUSE OF OUR COMPLICATED AND CONFUSING INCOME TAX SYSTEM -- YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT; IF WE STAY WITH THE SAME INCOME TAX SYSTEM WE HAVE TODAY, DAVID, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. IF WE SIMPLIFY THIS INCOME TAX SYSTEM IN MUCH OF THE SAME WAY OF A FLAT TAX: IF YOU MAKE A HUNDRED BUCKS, YOU PAY FIVE; IF YOU MAKE A THOUSAND, YOU PAY FIFTY; IF YOU MAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND, YOU PAY FIVE THOUSAND. BUT WE'D GET RID OF MANY OF THE EXEMPTIONS AND DEDUCTIONS THAT HAVE ONLY COMPLICATED THAT INCOME TAX SYSTEM. WHEN YOU FLATTEN IT OUT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE.

Yepsen: WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF MONEY, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE CAMPAIGN. NUSSLE PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO OUTSTRIP YOU ON MONEY BIG-TIME. IN MOST CAMPAIGNS THAT I HAVE EVER COVERED, THE GUY WITH THE MOST MONEY IS THE CANDIDATE WHO WINS. CAN YOU STAY COMPETITIVE WITH JIM NUSSLE IN MONEY?

Vander Plaats: I THINK WE WILL BE VERY COMPETITIVE WITH JIM NUSSLE. WELL, JIM NUSSLE, THE LAST REPORT I HEARD IS THAT HE'S FLOATING AROUND HE HAS $1.7 MILLION RAISED, WHICH IS A RECORD AMOUNT IN ANYBODY'S PRIMARY TO THIS DAY. WE BELIEVE BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE'LL BE NORTH OF A MILLION DOLLARS. BILL SALIER IS A GOOD EXAMPLE HERE. BILL SALIER HAD VERY LITTLE TO NO MONEY --

Borg: WHO RAN IN THE LAST REPUBLICAN PRIMARY --

Vander Plaats: FOR UNITED STATES SENATE --

Borg: YES --

Vander Plaats: AGAINST AN INCUMBENT CONGRESSMAN, GREG GANSKE. GREG GANSKE HAD WAY MORE MONEY THAN BILL SALIER, BUT BILL SALIER TOOK 42 PERCENT ON AN INCUMBENT CONGRESSMAN. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO COMPETE WITH CONGRESSMAN NUSSLE. AND I BELIEVE PRIMARIES ARE WON BY MESSAGE, BY ORGANIZATION, AND BY MONEY. AND I BELIEVE OUR ORGANIZATION IS THE BEST THIS STATE HAS EVER SEEN.

Glover: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THIS ARGUMENT? POLLS RIGHT NOW SHOW THAT PRESIDENT BUSH, WITH AN UNPOPULAR WAR IN IRAQ, WITH SOME BAD NATURAL DISASTERS IN THE GULF, HIS POLL RATINGS ARE AT AN ALL-TIME LOW FOR HIS PRESIDENCY. WE'RE HEADING INTO AN ELECTION YEAR WHERE, IN THE MIDTERM ELECTION OF THE SECOND YEAR OF A PRESIDENT IN POWER, HISTORICALLY THAT'S A BAD YEAR FOR THE PARTY IN POWER. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE ARGUMENT THAT NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE A DEMOCRATIC YEAR?

Vander Plaats: WELL, I BELIEVE, MIKE, YOU'RE REALLY ONTO SOMETHING. AND IF YOU LISTEN TO ANY NATIONAL TALK SHOWS, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. BUT THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE SO MUCH THAT IF WE REPUBLICANS PUT A CONGRESSMAN FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., WHO WILL BE CLOSELY TIED TO ALL OF THE NEGATIVE FEELINGS, THAT IT WILL BE A TOUGH, TOUGH RACE FOR US TO WIN THE GOVERNORSHIP. THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE REPUBLICANS NEED TO PUT SOMEBODY UP FRESH -- AND I BELIEVE THAT'S MYSELF -- WHO HAS INROADS INTO INDEPENDENTS AND TO DEMOCRATS WITH MY MESSAGE ON EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, HUMAN SERVICES, MY EXPERIENCE THERE. I BELIEVE IF WE REPUBLICANS DON'T ELECT SOMEBODY THAT'S FRESH AND THAT'S NEW TO THE SYSTEM, WE'RE IN DEEP TROUBLE IN THE ELECTION OF 2006.

Yepsen: MR. VANDER PLAATS, TALK ABOUT POLITICAL GEOGRAPHY A MINUTE. YOU'RE FROM WESTERN IOWA. JIM NUSSLE IS FROM EASTERN IOWA. THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, MOST VOTES IN AN IOWA ELECTION GET CAST EAST OF I-35. ISN'T HE GOING TO BE A TOUGHER CONTENDER IN THE GENERAL ELECTION THAN YOU WOULD BE BECAUSE OF HIS GEOGRAPHIC BASE?

Vander Plaats: I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE HERE -- DAVID, IF WE'VE LEARNED ANYTHING FROM PRESIDENT BUSH IN 2004, THE LAST DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION, HE TURNED UP IN SIOUX CITY, IOWA. AND I REMEMBER WHEN SOMEONE ASKED HIM, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN SIOUX CITY, IOWA," HE SAID, "THIS IS WHERE REPUBLICANS HANG OUT." AND WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT IS THAT WE NEED TO ENERGIZE THE BASE. I BELIEVE I WILL ENERGIZE THE BASE. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE WITH MY BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, AND HUMAN SERVICES, I WILL ATTRACT INDEPENDENTS AND CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS TO BE A GEOGRAPHY WAR. I BELIEVE IOWANS WILL ELECT THE BEST PERSON TO LEAD THE STATE OF IOWA.

Yepsen: AND WHAT ABOUT CONGRESSMAN NUSSLE'S ARGUMENT THAT HE HAS A PROVEN RECORD OF WINNING VOTES IN A DEMOCRATIC DISTRICT? THAT CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT THAT HE HOLDS HAS GOT MORE DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS IN IT, YET HE WINS. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT ARGUMENT?

Vander Plaats: I DON'T THINK IT TRANSFERS. TOM DASCHLE, DEMOCRAT OUT OF SOUTH DAKOTA, WAS A STATE -- OR A U.S. SENATOR OUT OF SOUTH DAKOTA FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE HE HAD LEADERSHIP POSITION IN WASHINGTON, D.C. I BELIEVE THE REASON JIM NUSSLE GOT THOSE DEMOCRATIC VOTES IS HE HAS HAD A LEADERSHIP POSITION IN WASHINGTON, D.C. NOW HE'S RUNNING FOR A NEW OFFICE CALLED GOVERNOR, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO TRANSLATE. I THINK I HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO ATTRACT THOSE INDEPENDENTS AND THOSE CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS.

Borg: AS FAR AS TRANSLATING, DEMOCRATS ARE ALREADY HAMMERING AWAY AT JIM NUSSLE, WHO THEY APPARENTLY EXPECT TO BE THE NOMINEE, BECAUSE OF HIS LEADERSHIP OF THE HOUSE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND AT A TIME OF RECORD DEFICITS. AND YET WHEN JIM NUSSLE ANNOUNCED HIS CAMPAIGN FOR GOVERNOR, HE SAID ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS HE'S GOING TO DO IS OVERHAUL A TOP-TO-BOTTOM LOOK AT STATE GOVERNMENT AND PERHAPS OVERHAUL AND CUT SPENDING. NOW, HOW DO YOU FIT INTO THAT DICHOTOMY? THAT IS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE STATE BUDGET?

Vander Plaats: WELL, LET ME ANSWER THAT A COUPLE OF WAYS. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE REASON THE DEMOCRATS ARE ATTACKING JIM NUSSLE IS THAT, ONE, HE MIGHT BE THE PRESUMED FRONT-RUNNER. BUT TWO IS THEY'RE GOING AFTER HIS RECORD. THEY'RE ALREADY PLAYING OUT THEIR HAND, WHICH IS PART OF MY ARGUMENT. I'VE BEEN A TURNAROUND CEO. WE TOOK SOMETHING WITHOUT MORE MONEY AND TOOK IT FROM NOTHING AND MADE IT A MODEL IN THE COUNTRY. WE REFORMED A PRIVATE ENTITY. AS FAR AS REFORMING STATE GOVERNMENT, YOU BET, WE NEED TO REFORM STATE GOVERNMENT. AND I BELIEVE WE NEED TO APPLY THE LEAN METHODOLOGY TO STATE GOVERNMENT, WHICH WE DO IN BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY, WHICH MEANS IF IT ADDS VALUE OR IF IT PRODUCES RESULTS, YOU KEEP IT. IF IT PRODUCES WASTE OR IS A BYPRODUCT OF WASTE, YOU ELIMINATE IT. BUT YOU SHARPEN THE SAW. YOU TARGET THE RESOURCES SO THAT WE CAN GET RESULTS WITH EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION, OUR DELIVERY OF HEALTH CARE, HUMAN SERVICES. BUT WHEN WE GET BETTER AT MANAGING THE RESOURCES, WHICH IS WHY DICK JOHNSON SUPPORTS ME, BECAUSE I'M A CEO, WE WILL SERVE PEOPLE BETTER AS WELL, AS WELL AS MAKING OUR WHOLE ENVIRONMENT COMPETITIVE FOR BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY.

Glover: IF YOU'RE ELECTED GOVERNOR, YOU WILL BECOME COMMANDER AND CHIEF OF THE STATE'S NATIONAL GUARD. ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES FACING NATIONAL GUARD OPERATIONS IN EVERY STATE IS THE DEPLOYMENT OF NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS TO IRAQ. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PRESIDENT'S HANDLING OF IRAQ, AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE IMPACT HAS BEEN ON THE DEPLOYMENT SO HEAVILY OF NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS FROM ALL OF THE STATES TO IRAQ?

Vander Plaats: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I SPEAK AS ONLY ONE IOWAN, BUT I THINK ALL IOWANS WILL JOIN ME IN SAYING WE ARE VERY, VERY PROUD OF IOWA'S RESPONSE AND OUR NATIONAL GUARD'S READINESS IN IRAQ.

Glover: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER WE'RE PROUD OF OUR TROOPS OR WE SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE POLICY OF THIS DEPLOYMENT?

Vander Plaats: WELL, I BELIEVE WHAT IT IS, IS THAT WE WENT INTO IRAQ. THEY'RE HARBORING TERRORIST CELLS. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD NEWS THAT'S NOT BEING SHARED WITH PEOPLE. WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THEY HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE FOUND ONE GREAT BIG WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, AND HIS NAME IS SADDAM HUSSEIN. AND I THINK THE WORLD IS BETTER WITHOUT SADDAM HUSSEIN. AND I THINK WE WENT INTO THERE TO WIN THAT WAR. I THINK WE NEED TO STAY THERE, AND LET'S WIN THAT WAR IN IRAQ.

Glover: DO YOU THINK THAT THE DEPLOYMENT, TO THE DEGREE THAT IT'S HAPPENED, HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON STATES' ABILITY TO RESPOND TO NATURAL DISASTERS WITHIN THE STATES, WHICH IS WHAT THE NATIONAL GUARD WAS ORIGINALLY FORMED FOR?

Vander Plaats: I REALLY BELIEVE THAT MAY BE THE CASE, MIKE. AND I THINK WE EVEN SAW THAT WITH HURRICANE KATRINA, THAT WE ARE SPREAD AWFULLY THIN. BUT NOBODY SHOULD FORGET WHAT HAPPENED ON 9/11, AND NOBODY SHOULD FORGET THAT WE ARE FIGHTING THIS WAR NOW ON FOREIGN SOIL, NOT ON OUR SOIL. AND THEY DEFINITELY WANT TO ATTACK US AGAIN. SO I THINK WE NEED TO STAY FOCUSED AND GO OUT AND WE NEED TO WIN THAT WAR.

Yepsen: STAY WITH THE NATURAL DISASTERS QUESTION FOR A MOMENT. WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DO YOU THINK IOWA SHOULD BE DOING DIFFERENTLY TO PREPARE FOR OUR OWN NATURAL DISASTERS? THIS IS A STATE WE HAVE TORNADOES. WE HAVE FLOODS. WE SIT ON TWO MAJOR EARTHQUAKE FAULTS. WHAT, IF ANYTHING, SHOULD WE BE DOING TO PROTECT OURSELVES?

Vander Plaats: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, DAVID, I THINK IOWANS ARE THREADED WITH A GREAT DEAL OF COMMON SENSE. I JUST VISITED WITH GARY BROWN LAST SUNDAY, WHO REALLY COORDINATED THE FLIGHT 232 DISASTER IN SIOUX CITY, IOWA. AND IN SIOUX CITY, WE HAD 25 MINUTES KNOWING THAT THAT PLANE WAS COMING IN, AND YET WE HAD FIRE TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES FROM EVERY LITTLE COMMUNITY COMING IN AND IT WAS ALMOST TEXTBOOK OPERATION. WE CAME IN AND WE DID THE JOB. I BELIEVE THAT IS WHO IOWA IS. BUT I BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE PREPARED, WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE IN PLACE. THEY CAN'T BE POLITICAL DEPLOYMENTS. THEY NEED TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE READY AND WILLING TO DO THE JOB. AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FOOD SUPPLY HERE. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DO HAVE TORNADOES AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

Glover: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF PRESIDENT BUSH'S RESPONSE TO THE DISASTERS IN THE GULF? HE'S BEEN WIDELY CRITICIZED FOR IT.

Vander Plaats: WELL, FROM A LEADERSHIP ANGLE, I THINK HE SHOWED SOME REAL LEADERSHIP IN SAYING WE DROPPED THE BALL. AND I THINK EVERY GOVERNMENT, LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DROPPED THE BALL.

Glover: IF YOU SCREW UP, YOU GET OUT OF IT BY SAYING I MADE A MISTAKE?

Vander Plaats: WELL, I THINK THE FIRST THING YOU NEED TO DO IS YOU NEED TO ADMIT THAT, HEY, WE WEREN'T AS READY AS I THOUGHT WE WERE, WE NEED TO GET BETTER, WE NEED TO LEARN FROM THE SITUATION. BUT ALSO, MIKE, TO BE FAIR, HURRICANE KATRINA WE KNEW WAS GOING TO BE BAD, BUT NOBODY REALLY PREDICTED THAT THE LEVEES WERE GOING TO BREAK AND ALL THIS WATER WAS GOING TO COME IN.

Glover: NO, I'M SORRY MR. VANDER PLAATS, EVERYBODY PREDICTED THAT IN A CLASS FOUR HURRICANE THE LEVEES WOULD BREAK. THAT'S BEEN PREDICTED FOR YEARS.

Vander Plaats: WELL, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GOING TO GET TO THIS LEVEL. AND I THINK THERE'S A RESPONSIBILITY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AT THE STATE LEVEL, AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AND I REALLY HOPE THAT EVERYBODY LEARNS FROM THIS SITUATION, THAT WE ARE BETTER PREPARED NEXT TIME.

Yepsen: SO HURRICANES AREN'T GEORGE BUSH'S FAULT.

Vander Plaats: I HOPE NOT.

Glover: LET'S GO TO POLITICS, IF WE COULD, MR. VANDER PLAATS. GIVE ME THE POLITICS OF THIS UPCOMING REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. HOW DOES IT PLAY OUT?

Vander Plaats: HOW DOES IT PLAY OUT IS I BELIEVE ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO WIN.

Glover: DO YOU HAVE A PREDICTION ON TURNOUT?

Vander Plaats: I THINK TURNOUT IS GOING TO BE RIGHT AT 200,000 PEOPLE. IN 2002 IT WAS 202,000. IN 1998 IT WAS ABOUT 186,000. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT AT THAT 200,000 NUMBER. IN 2002 I BELIEVE OUR CAMPAIGN SURPRISED ALMOST EVERYBODY, THAT WE ONLY LOST BY 1,500 VOTES OF HAVING THAT THING GO TO STATE CONVENTION. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE OF OUR PEOPLE ON THE GROUND. THEY WERE ORGANIZED. THEY BELIEVED IN THE CAUSE OF LEADERSHIP. NOW WE HAVE FORMER OPPONENT STEVE SUKUP AS OUR STATE CHAIR. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A HYBRID ORGANIZATION. AND I THINK WHEN PEOPLE GET A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT BOTH CANDIDATES AND WHO CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER, I REALLY LIKE OUR CHANCES.

Glover: DO YOU THINK THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY? DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S SOME FORCE THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY, OR IS IT GOING TO BE STRICTLY AN ORGANIZATIONAL THING?

Vander Plaats: I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, ISSUES ARE GOING TO COME INTO PLAY. I THINK MESSAGE IS GOING TO COME INTO PLAY: WHAT'S THE VISION; WHO HAS THE LEADERSHIP; WHO HAS THE PASSION IN ORDER TO DELIVER? BUT I THINK THE BIG THING REPUBLICANS NEED TO LOOK AT IS WHO CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER. AND I BELIEVE OUR CANDIDACY HAS A MUCH BETTER OPPORTUNITY OF BEATING THE DEMOCRATS IN NOVEMBER, AND THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

Borg: HOW CAN YOUR CAMPAIGN MOVE MOST OPTIMALLY IN SYNC WITH THE CAUCUS CAMPAIGN? I MEAN HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, WHICH CANDIDATE YOU COULD ALIGN WITH IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT?

Vander Plaats: EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT.

Borg: WELL, THE PRESIDENTIAL CAUCUS PRIMARY CAMPAIGN IS GOING TO BE GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME AS YOUR CAMPAIGN TO WIN THE NOMINATION. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE WAY THAT THOSE TWO CAN ALIGN AND COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER, OR ARE YOU GOING TO OPERATE SEPARATELY?

Vander Plaats: I THINK WE HAVE TO OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY AND SEPARATELY. AND OBVIOUSLY, THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CYCLE IS GETTING OFF TO AN EARLY START. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALIGN WITH ANY CANDIDATE, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE OF ANY CANDIDATE TO ALIGN WITH EITHER ME OR JIM NUSSLE, BECAUSE ALL YOU DO IS YOU CREATE DIVISION, THEN, WITHIN THE REPUBLICANS. AND YOU NEED REPUBLICANS TO STAY TOGETHER IF YOU'RE GOING TO WIN IN NOVEMBER OF '06.

Borg: WELL, FOLLOW ON THAT IN ENDORSEMENTS. WHAT ENDORSEMENTS ARE YOU SEEKING, NOT OF PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES BUT OF WHO'S KEY TO YOU IN ENDORSING YOUR CAMPAIGN?

Vander Plaats: I AM SEEKING EVERYDAY IOWANS' ENDORSEMENTS.

Borg: I UNDERSTAND.

Vander Plaats: I THINK WHAT YOU FOUND OUT EVEN IN THE 2002 ELECTION, EVERYBODY WAS GOING WITH DOUG GROSS. THEY WERE ALL ENDORSING HIM. IOWANS ARE VERY, VERY INDEPENDENT IN REGARDS TO WHO ARE THEY GOING TO VOTE FOR. HOWARD DEAN HAD A LOT OF THE MAJOR ENDORSEMENTS, YET THE STATE OF IOWA SENT JOHN KERRY OVER THE TOP. SO I'M LOOKING FOR EVERYDAY INDEPENDENT IOWANS' ENDORSEMENTS.

Yepsen: WE'VE ONLY GOT A FEW MINUTES LEFT, AND I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOME SPECIFIC ISSUES. WE'VE TOUCHED ON TAXES AND EDUCATION SOME. WHAT ABOUT HEALTH CARE? EVERY POLL THAT I SEE OF WHAT IOWANS CARE ABOUT RIGHT NOW, HEALTH CARE RANKS VERY HIGH AS A CONCERN OF IOWA VOTERS. WHAT WOULD GOVERNOR BOB VANDER PLAATS DO ABOUT THE CONCERNS IOWANS HAVE ABOUT HEALTH CARE?

Vander Plaats: WELL, IT'S A BIG ISSUE AND I TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. POLITICS AS USUAL HAS TOLD US THAT IOWA IS GETTING THE SHORT STICK ON MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT. MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT IS A BIG THING TO THE STATE OF IOWA BECAUSE WE ARE A LOWLY REIMBURSED STATE. WE HAVE A HIGH ELDERLY POPULATION. WE DELIVER SIXTH BEST IN THE COUNTRY QUALITY OF HEALTH CARE, BUT WE GET REIMBURSED THE WORST. LOUISIANA DELIVERS THE WORST QUALITY OF HEALTH CARE IN THE COUNTRY, BUT THEY GET REIMBURSED THE BEST.

Yepsen: SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

Vander Plaats: I BELIEVE THE GOVERNOR -- IT IS MY JOB TO CHAMPION AND TO FUEL THE TORCH OF PAY FOR PERFORMANCE. PAY US ON PERFORMANCE, HOW WE DELIVER QUALITY HEALTH CARE. BUT THE OTHER PART IS MEDICAL LIABILITY REFORM, DAVID. WE NEED TO PUT A CAP ON NONECONOMIC DAMAGES. WE NEED TO HAVE A DISINCENTIVE TO FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE A LOW REIMBURSED STATE AND A HIGH LITIGATION STATE, YOU WILL HAVE TROUBLE RECRUITING THE BEST PHYSICIANS, RETAINING THE BEST PHYSICIANS, AND RESTORING THE PATIENT/PHYSICIAN RELATIONSHIP.

Yepsen: IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE STATE CAN DO TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES PROVIDE INSURANCE TO THEIR WORKERS?

Vander Plaats: I THINK ONE IS YOU ADVOCATE FOR FAIR MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT, AND YOU DO HAVE TRUE MEDICAL LIABILITY REFORM. AND THEN I REALLY BELIEVE, AS MY HEALTH CARE COMMITTEE HAS TALKED ABOUT, WE ESTABLISH A BLUE RIBBON COMMISSION ON WHAT IS THE BEST, THE MOST EFFECTIVE, THE MOST EFFICIENT DELIVERY OF HEALTH CARE IN THE STATE OF IOWA WITHIN OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE.

Borg: I'M GOING TO STAY WITH HEALTH CARE JUST FOR A MOMENT AND METHAMPHETAMINE AND DRUG ABUSE. CAN THE STATE DO A BETTER JOB, AND HOW WOULD YOU LEAD THAT?

Vander Plaats: OBVIOUSLY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE JUST THE OTHER DAY, DRUG ABUSE AFFECTS ALL IOWANS. I HATED TO SEE IT WHEN I WAS A TEACHER AND A HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL. I THINK THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS TAKEN SOME IMPORTANT STEPS HERE ON THOSE WHO MANUFACTURE METH AND THOSE WHO PRODUCE METH AND DELIVER METH.

Borg: WHAT CAN BE DONE BETTER?

Vander Plaats: WELL, I THINK ONE IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE STRICTLY -- WE NEED TO HAVE STRICT ENFORCEMENT ON THOSE WHO PRODUCE AND WHO PUSH IT ONTO OUR CHILDREN AND HAVE THAT ADDICTION. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE REHABILITATIVE MEASURES FOR THOSE WHO GET ADDICTED ON THIS. REHABILITATION HAS GOT TO BE A BIG PIECE OF THIS.

Borg: ARE WE FALLING SHORT IN THAT?

Vander Plaats: I THINK WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK OUR BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK IS IN REHABILITATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE ADDICTED TO THE SUBSTANCE.

Glover: THE STATE'S DRUG CZAR, MARVIN VAN HAAFTEN, HAS SUGGESTED THAT WE TAKE ONE OF THE STATE'S PRISONS OR SOME OTHER FACILITY AND DEVOTE IT STRICTLY TO A DRUG REHABILITATION FACILITY. IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?

Vander Plaats: I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO VISIT WITH HIM ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S AN IDEA WORTH PURSUING, BECAUSE I DO, I TAKE A LOOK AT THERE'S -- JUST LIKE IN HEALTH CARE, IF WE PUT MORE OF A FOCUS ON PREVENTION, MAYBE WE WON'T HAVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT COME UP TO SAY FOR APPEAL OR A SURGERY THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. THE SAME WAY WITH DRUG ABUSE. IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN REHABILITATE, I THINK IT'S IOWANS WHO SAY WE WANT TO REHABILITATE FIRST.

Glover: A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT SOCIAL ISSUES. ABORTION, YOUR POSITION?

Vander Plaats: I'M PRO-LIFE WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

Glover: DEATH SENTENCE?

Vander Plaats: I'M FOR THE DEATH PENALTY FOR PREMEDITATED MURDER AND FOR MULTIPLE FELONIES THAT RESULT IN DEATH, SUCH AS THE JETSETA GAGE CASE.

Glover: AND GAY RIGHTS?

Vander Plaats: GAY RIGHTS. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANYBODY, BUT I AM NOT FOR ADVOCATING FOR SPECIAL RIGHTS FOR HOMOSEXUALS.

Yepsen: TALK ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION FOR A MOMENT. WE'VE GOT JUST A MINUTE LEFT. IMPROVING IOWANS' WORK FORCE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A HUGE ISSUE, YET THE TUITIONS AT IOWA'S COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE AMONG THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY. HOW DO YOU LOWER TUITION OF COMMUNITY COLLEGES?

Vander Plaats: I BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE FAIR WITH TUITION AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES, AS WELL AT THE REGENT UNIVERSITIES. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS OPERATE IT MORE LIKE A BUSINESS. MY SON IS GOING TO GO INTO COLLEGE NEXT YEAR. AND ALL I ASK OF A COLLEGE IS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THIS YOUNG MAN TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO YOUR SCHOOL OR TO YOUR UNIVERSITY. TELL THIS YOUNG MAN WHAT'S THE FOUR-YEAR PLAN, WHAT CAN HE PLAN ON FOR TUITION. AND SO WHEN HE COMES IN AS A FRESHMAN, HE KNOWS IT'S GOING TO BE THIS -- A SOPHOMORE, JUNIOR, SENIOR -- BUT HE HAS A PLAN. BUT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A CEO WHO KNOWS HOW TO MANAGE GOVERNMENT.

Borg: AND I HAVE TO MANAGE THIS PROGRAM. WE'RE OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR GUEST TODAY.

Vander Plaats: THANK YOU, DEAN, DAVE, AND MIKE.

Borg: ON OUR NEXT EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS," WE'RE CONTINUING ON THE CAMPAIGN FOR GOVERNOR, THIS TIME ON THE CAMPAIGN FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION: IOWA'S SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE, PATTY JUDGE, ONE OF FIVE DEMOCRATS SEEKING THAT NOMINATION. SHE'LL BE HERE TO DISCUSS HER CAMPAIGN NEXT WEEKEND, REGULAR AIRTIMES: 7:30 FRIDAY, AND SUNDAY AT NOON. I HOPE YOU'LL WATCH. THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEKEND'S EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS." I'M DEAN BORG. THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY. FUNDING FOR "IOWA PRESS" WAS PROVIDED BY "FRIENDS," THE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION FOUNDATION; AND BY THE IOWA BANKERS ASSOCIATION... FOR PERSONAL, BUSINESS, AND COMMERCIAL NEEDS, IOWA BANKS HELP IOWANS REACH THEIR FINANCIAL GOALS.


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