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Democrats Bruce Braley, Rick Dickinson, and Bill Gluba

posted on May 23, 2006

Borg: DEMOCRATS BRUCE BRALEY OF WATERLOO, RICK DICKINSON OF DUBUQUE, AND BILL GLUBA OF DAVENPORT WANT TO REPRESENT IOWA'S FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. WE'LL QUESTION THEM AS WE CONTINUE THIS SPECIAL EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS.'

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Borg: BOTH MAJOR NATIONAL PARTIES HAVE TAGGED IOWA'S FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT A MUST-WIN. REPUBLICAN JIM NUSSLE IS THE INCUMBENT. HE'S RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR. MR. NUSSLE MANAGED TO HOLD ONTO HIS SEAT, EVEN THE DISTRICT'S POLITICAL COMPLEXION CHANGED IN REDISTRICTING AFTER THE 2000 CENSUS. NUSSLE, AND NOW SECOND DISTRICT CONGRESSMAN, ALSO REPUBLICAN, JIM LEACH HAVE IN THE PAST REPRESENTED PARTS OF WHAT IS NOW THE FIRST DISTRICT. BUT THE DISTINCT AS IT IS NOW COMPOSED HAS A DEMOCRATIC EDGE, AND THAT MAKES IT VERY COMPETITIVE AS AN OPEN SEAT IN THIS 2006 ELECTION. THE CANDIDATES CAMPAIGNING FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION IN THE JUNE PRIMARY ARE WATERLOO ATTORNEY BRUCE BRALEY, LONG ACTIVE IN STATE AND NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC POLITICS; GREATER DUBUQUE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR RICK DICKINSON... HE'S A FORMER MAYOR OF SABULA, FORMER JACKSON COUNTY SUPERVISOR, AND TWO-TERM STATE REPRESENTATIVE TOO; AND ANOTHER FORMER STATE LEGISLATOR, THAT'S BILL GLUBA OF DAVENPORT. HE SERVED IN BOTH THE IOWA HOUSE AND THE SENATE, AND HE'S A FORMER SCOTT COUNTY SUPERVISOR. WELCOME TO 'IOWA PRESS.'

Braley: THANK YOU.

Dickinson: THANK YOU, DEAN.

Gluba: GOOD TO BE HERE.

Borg: AND ACROSS THE TABLE: 'DES MOINES REGISTER' POLITICAL COLUMNIST DAVID YEPSEN AND 'ASSOCIATED PRESS' SENIOR POLITICAL WRITER MIKE GLOVER.

Glover: MR. BRALEY, LET'S START WITH YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT VOTERS IN A PRIMARY ELECTION DO IS PICK A CANDIDATE THEY THINK CAN WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION. THIS IS A DISTRICT WITH MORE DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS, BUT IT'S BEEN IN REPUBLICAN HANDS SINCE THE 1970S. WHY ARE YOU THE CANDIDATE THAT CAN GET IT BACK FROM DEMOCRATS?

Braley: WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, MIKE. AND I WAS IN THE FIRST DISTRICT THE LAST TIME A DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE HELD THAT SEAT AND VOTED FOR HIM IN 1976. IT'S BEEN THIRTY YEARS WITHOUT DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THAT MY BACKGROUND, TRAINING, AND LIFE EXPERIENCE, INCLUDING MY COMMUNITY SERVICE, UNIQUELY QUALIFIES ME TO GET THAT JOB DONE.

Glover: MR. DICKINSON, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. WHY ARE YOU THE CANDIDATE WHO CAN ACTUALLY WIN IN THIS DISTRICT?

Dickinson: WELL, YOU CAN'T KEEP DOING THE SAME THING AND EXPECT A DIFFERENT OUTCOME, MIKE. THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE FIFTEEN YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A COUNCILMAN, MAYOR, COUNTY SUPERVISOR, LEGISLATOR. FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN TRANSFORMING ONE OF THE WEAKEST ECONOMIES IN THE STATE TO ONE OF THE STRONGEST ONES. EXPERIENCE IS GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. WINNING IS GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. WE'VE HAD OUR NAME ON THE BALLOT SEVEN TIMES, AND WE'VE ALWAYS WON. DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO MAKE THE CHOICE THIS YEAR BASED ON WINNING IN NOVEMBER.

Glover: MR. GLUBA, THE QUESTION TO YOU IS YOU'VE RUN A COUPLE OF TIMES. YOU HAVEN'T WON. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO SAY YOUR TIME HAS COME AND GONE?

Gluba: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M VERY GLAD I RAN. I RAN WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD AGAINST JIM LEACH, FOR EXAMPLE. FIFTEEN PEOPLE HAVE RUN AGAINST JIM LEACH, AND THEY'VE ALL LOST. SEVEN HAVE RUN AGAINST JIM NUSSLE. THEY'VE ALL LOST. I RAN WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD. I'VE LAID THE GROUNDWORK IN THIS DISTRICT. TOM HARKIN HAD TO RUN TWICE. NINETY-NINE PERCENT OF THE INCUMBENTS WHO HOLD OFFICE, AS YOU KNOW, GET REELECTED. SO I BELIEVE I'M THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE BECAUSE I KNOW THE PEOPLE OUT THERE. I'VE LAID THE GROUNDWORK. AND AS TOM HARKIN SAID, YOU BETTER PLAN ON RUNNING TWICE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO, AND WE'RE DOING THAT. PLUS, WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES IN THIS CAMPAIGN.

Yepsen: MR. GLUBA, HELP A DEMOCRAT OUT. WHAT'S THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR TWO OPPONENTS?

Gluba: WELL, THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE, A NUMBER OF ISSUES. I CAME OUT WAY BACK IN NOVEMBER AND MADE ENDING THIS WAR IN IRAQ AND BRINGING OUR TROOPS HOME THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY. AS LONG AS WE HAVE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD DYING IN A WAR AND NOTHING BEING DONE MUCH IN WASHINGTON TO SEE THAT THAT WAR COMES TO AN END, ENDING THE WAR IS NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THE BIGGEST DOMESTIC ISSUE THAT I'VE MADE IN THIS CAMPAIGN IS HEALTH CARE. WE DEMOCRATS HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY ONCE AND FOR ALL, IF YOU ELECT US, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH THE SAME KIND OF HEALTH CARE COVERAGE THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVE.

Yepsen: MR. DICKINSON, THE SAME QUESTION. THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR TWO OPPONENTS?

Dickinson: THE ABILITY TO WIN THE ELECTION NOVEMBER 7, UNDOUBTEDLY. THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE THREE OF US -- AND I THINK THESE ARE TWO FINE FELLOWS -- ARE NUANCED. THE REAL DIFFERENCE IS WHICH ONE OF US CAN BEAT THE REPUBLICAN ON NOVEMBER 7. I THINK THAT COMES DOWN TO EXPERIENCE, PAST HISTORY OF WINNING ELECTIONS, AND BEING FOCUSED ON THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, NOT ON THE FALLEN HEROES, NOT QUOTING THOSE FOLKS, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE DEAR TO ALL OF OUR HEARTS, BUT REALLY FOCUSING ON THE ISSUES AND THE PEOPLE OF THE FIRST DISTRICT OF IOWA.

Yepsen: MR. BRALEY, THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE?

Braley: WELL, DAVID, I'M NOT A CAREER POLITICIAN, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THOSE IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE GRIDLOCK WE DO. I'VE SPENT MY LIFE SERVING MY COMMUNITY, DEALING WITH ISSUES LIKE PROVIDING HEALTH CARE TO SENIORS IN THEIR HOMES, HELPING RAISE MONEY FOR SCHOLARSHIPS FOR STUDENTS TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION IN COLLEGE, SERVING IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CAPACITIES. AND I'VE WORKED WITH PEOPLE IN EVERY COUNTY IN THIS DISTRICT, TRYING TO GET A BETTER LIFE FOR THEM. I KNOW WHAT MAKES PEOPLE TICK. I KNOW WHAT THEY NEED IN THIS DISTRICT, AND I'LL BE A STRONG AND INDEPENDENT VOICE IN WASHINGTON TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND THE FACT THAT I HAVE RECEIVED ENDORSEMENTS FROM THE IOWA FEDERATION OF LABOR AND ELEVEN OTHER STATE LABOR ASSOCIATIONS, INTERNATIONALS, TELLS PEOPLE THAT THESE ARE THE TYPE OF CREDENTIALS IT TAKES TO WIN IN NOVEMBER.

Glover: MR. BRALEY, EVERY POLL THAT WE SEE SAYS THAT PRESIDENT BUSH'S NUMBERS ARE PRETTY BAD, THAT THE REPUBLICAN LED CONGRESS'S NUMBERS ARE PRETTY BAD. IS THAT ENOUGH TO ELECT A DEMOCRAT IN THIS DISTRICT, OR DO YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF AN ALTERNATIVE?

Braley: OH, ABSOLUTELY NOT. DEMOCRATS HAVE TO HAVE A STRONG AND INDEPENDENT VOICE OF A POSITIVE AGENDA FOR CHANGE, MIKE. AND THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN OUT IN THE DISTRICT TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON, THINGS LIKE FIXING THE DISASTER THAT'S MEDICARE D, HOLDING THE PRESIDENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ. AND I'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY CALLING FOR AN EXIT STRATEGY WITH A TIME LINE. AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT BOTH SENATOR HARKIN AND SENATOR GRASSLEY YESTERDAY HAVE JOINED ME IN CALLING FOR A TIMETABLE FOR WITHDRAWAL, ALONG WITH IOWA CONGRESSMAN JIM LEACH.

Glover: MR. DICKINSON, IS IT GOING TO BE -- LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY: HOW BAD OF A YEAR IS IT GOING TO BE FOR REPUBLICANS?

Dickinson: IT WILL BE AS BAD A YEAR AS IS THE CANDIDATE RUNNING AGAINST THEM. IT'S THAT. I MEAN PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CONGRESS. THE PRESIDENT'S NUMBERS ARE AT AN ALL-TIME LOW. CONGRESS'S NUMBERS ARE LOWER THAN THAT. BUT THAT'S CONGRESS AS A WHOLE, NOT THE INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATE. WE NEED TO NOMINATE SOMEONE ON JUNE 6 THAT CAN BEAT THE THREE FOLKS THAT THE PEOPLE IN IOWA WITNESSED TALKING TO YOU NOT LONG AGO. WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN BEAT THOSE PEOPLE. IT HAS TO BE A DEMOCRAT THAT HAS A LONG RECORD OF DEMOCRATIC SERVICE -- SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THIS CAMPAIGN HAVE NOT BEEN ACTIVE DEMOCRATS ALL THEIR LIVES -- SOMEONE WHO HAS ACTUALLY RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE IN THE PAST AND SERVED WITH DISTINCTION, AND SOMEONE WHO REALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW CAN WE TURN THIS ECONOMY AROUND IN NORTHEAST IOWA, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE CORE ISSUES... ECONOMIC PROSPERITY FOR EVERY MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD IN THIS DISTRICT.

Glover: MR. GLUBA, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. HOW BAD OF A YEAR IS THIS GOING TO BE FOR REPUBLICANS?

Gluba: I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A TERRIBLE YEAR FOR REPUBLICANS. EVERYWHERE I GO IN THIS DISTRICT -- DAVENPORT, CLINTON, DUBUQUE, WATERLOO -- PEOPLE TELL ME THE SAME THING: THEY WANT SOME CHANGE. WHAT THEY TELL ME ALSO, MIKE, IS THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THE REPUBLICANS STAND FOR AND THEY'RE NOT HAPPY. BUT THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE DEMOCRATS STAND FOR, SO IT'S TIME WE DEMOCRATS BE DEMOCRATS AGAIN. AND I CLAIM I'M FROM THE DEMOCRATIC WING, AS DEAN DID FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, BECAUSE I'VE STOOD FORWARD, STRAIGHT UP, AND SAID IT'S TIME TO BRING AN END TO THIS WAR --

Glover: THAT DIDN'T WORK SO WELL FOR HOWARD DEAN.

Gluba: BUT HE WAS COMING FROM A PHILOSOPHY THAT I BELIEVE IN. HUBERT HUMPHREY, JOHN KENNEDY. YOU CAN'T WIMP ON THESE ISSUES. THE PROBLEM WITH THE DEMOCRATS TOO RECENTLY IN THE RECENT PAST, THEY HAVEN'T STOOD FOR ANYTHING. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. WE OUGHT TO BE STANDING UP FOR LABOR. I HAD THE ENDORSEMENT OF ORGANIZED LABOR EVERY YEAR I RAN. I WON ELECTIONS WITH 69 PERCENT OF THOSE. I TOOK ON NUSSLE AND GOT 125,490 VOTES, MORE VOTES THAN ALL THESE PEOPLE PUT TOGETHER ON THIS PANEL. AND I THINK WHAT THE DEMOCRATS WANT IN WASHINGTON IS A FIGHTER. THEY WANT SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, AND I'M THAT CANDIDATE.

Borg: MR. DICKINSON, YOU JUST SAID THAT ECONOMIC PROSPERITY IN NORTHEAST IOWA IS A BIG PART OF YOUR CAMPAIGN. THAT ALSO GOES TO ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES OF THE DAY, AND THAT'S IMMIGRATION. IF AS A FRESHMAN CONGRESSMAN, IF YOU'RE ELECTED, YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO WRITE LEGISLATION, HOW WOULD YOU DEAL WITH THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM: NUMBER ONE -- THAT IS HOW TO CONTROL THE BORDER, NUMBER ONE; NUMBER TWO, WHAT TO DO WITH THOSE WHO ARE LIVING IN THE COUNTRY NOW WORKING, PART OF THE ECONOMY, BUT ILLEGALLY?

Dickinson: FIRST OF ALL, DEAN, WE HAVE TO TAKE THE HATE AND THE POISON OUT OF THIS DEBATE. YOU KNOW, IN DISCUSSING OUR POLICIES IN IRAQ, I LOOK DOWN THE CASUALTY LIST, 2,400 PEOPLE KILLED, MANY OF THEM IOWANS, MEN AND WOMEN. I LOOK DOWN THAT LIST AT THE SURNAMES. HOW MANY WERE NAMED KING, ZERO; DIX, ZERO; WHALEN, ZERO; HANNABY, ZERO; O'REILLY, ZERO. BUT GONZALES, FIVE; HERNANDEZ, NINE. THE LATINOS AND HISPANICS ARE PART OF THE FABRIC OF AMERICA. THE FIX FOR THIS ISSUE -- AND IT IS AN ISSUE, 12 MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN THIS COUNTRY -- IS THE KENNEDY-MCCAIN BILL. TWO GUYS YOU DON'T SEE STANDING ON THE STREET CORNER POLITICALLY VERY OFTEN. IT'S A BILL THAT'S SUPPORTED BY THE NATIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS.

Borg: BUT DELINEATE THE PROVISION.

Dickinson: THE PROVISION PROVIDES FOR SECURITY AT OUR BORDERS AND BEEFING UP OUR PATROL. IT PROVIDES FOR PENALTIES TO EMPLOYERS WHO SEND COYOTES DOWN AND BRING PEOPLE UP TO BE VICTIMS IN THIS COUNTRY.

Borg: SO CONTROLLING THE BORDER. NUMBER TWO IS DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY HERE ILLEGALLY?

Dickinson: WE CAN'T CRIMINALIZE IT, QUITE FRANKLY. NOR CAN WE CRIMINALIZE THE SISTERS OF DUBUQUE WHO PROVIDE MEALS FOR HISPANIC CHILDREN. WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THIS HAS BECOME A WEDGE ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE DRUM BEATING. THIS IS A WEDGE ISSUE OF 2006, DEAN, JUST LIKE WILLIE HORTON WAS IN '88 AND THE WELFARE QUEEN IN THE CADILLAC IN THE '90S AND GAY MARRIAGES LAST YEAR. WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AS DEMOCRATS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET POISON CONTROL THE ELECTION IN 2006.

Borg: MR. BRALEY, HOW WOULD YOU DEAL WITH THOSE WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY NOW, AND HOW DO YOU CONTROL THE BORDER?

Braley: WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND MAKE SURE THERE'S A NATIONAL CONSENSUS OF WHAT THE LAW SHOULD BE AND THEN ENFORCE IT. WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A RESPECT FOR THE LAW. BUT IT SURPRISES ME, DEAN, THAT THE PAPER TODAY RELEASED THE PROJECTED COST OF THIS 300-MILE FENCE AT A BILLION DOLLARS, AND WE KNOW IT WILL BE MUCH GREATER THAN THAT. AND THIS IS FROM A PARTY THAT HAD ITS ICON, RONALD REAGAN, STAND AT BRANDENBURG GATE AND SAY, 'MR. GORBACHEV, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL.' IF WE BUILD A WALL AT THAT PRICE TAG, THERE WILL BE NEW WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO THIS COUNTRY --

Yepsen: EXCUSE ME, MR. BRALEY, YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING DEAN'S QUESTION. WE KNOW YOU -- OKAY, YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD A WALL. THEN, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO ABOUT BORDER SECURITY?

Braley: WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A LAW THAT THE BORDER SECURITY IS WILLING TO ENFORCE. AND THE KEY TO THAT, DAVID, IS BY PENALIZING EMPLOYERS WHO ARE ENTICING PEOPLE TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S RECORD OF ENFORCEMENT, THREE EMPLOYERS OUT OF 5.5 MILLION WERE FINED LAST YEAR FOR BRINGING IN UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS. IT STARTS AT THE SOURCE. IF THERE IS NOT A MOTIVATION TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY TO GET EMPLOYED, IT WILL ELIMINATE THE INCENTIVES.

Yepsen: WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY HERE?

Braley: YOU LOOK AT THE COST THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN DEPORTATION. AND CONSERVATIVES AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP THAT IS NOT AMNESTY THAT PROVIDES A WAY TO GET THOSE PEOPLE INTO THE SYSTEM AND MAKE THEM LAWFUL CITIZENS.

Borg: MR. GLUBA, HOW DO YOU CONTROL THE BORDER?

Gluba: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU PASS THE KENNEDY-MCCAIN COMPREHENSIVE -- COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM BILL. IN THAT BILL YOU HAVE PROVISIONS TO BEEF UP SECURITY ON THE BORDERS. YOU HAVE REQUIREMENTS THAT THERE BE BETTER SECURITY CAMERAS, ET CETERA. IT ALSO PROVIDES A REASONABLE AND SENSIBLE WAY FOR THESE 12 MILLION PEOPLE, PROBABLY HALF OF WHICH WHO ARE CHILDREN BORN IN THE UNITED STATES, THE OTHER PARENTS, TO BECOME CITIZENS BY STUDYING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, LEARNING ENGLISH, BY PAYING A FINE. IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE ISSUE.

Borg: WHAT ABOUT THOSE HERE ILLEGALLY NOW AND WORKING?

Gluba: WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, DEAN. THEY'RE -- IN THAT KENNEDY-MCCAIN BILL, THERE ARE PROVISIONS WHERE, I THINK IT'S OVER A 12-YEAR PERIOD, YOU CAN BECOME A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES --

Yepsen: MR. BRALEY?

Gluba: -- BY DOING WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

Yepsen: MR. BRALEY, WE'VE ALWAYS GOT WAY TOO MANY QUESTIONS AND NOT ENOUGH TIME, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ONTO ANOTHER SUBJECT. JOBS. WHAT DO YOU DO TO CREATE MORE JOBS IN IOWA?

Braley: WELL, THE KEY, IN MY OPINION, IS TO FOCUS ON OUR HISTORY OF AGRICULTURE AND MAKE IOWA THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. WE NEED TO SHIFT OUR ENERGY FOCUS FROM THE MIDEAST TO THE MIDWEST. THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY EXCITING THINGS GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THE DISTRICT, DAVID. THERE'S TWO NEW BIODIESEL PLANTS BEING CONSTRUCTED IN CLINTON. THE WAVERLY MUNICIPAL UTILITY HAS BEEN A NATIONAL LEADER IN THE ENHANCEMENT OF WIND ENERGY. THE DNR PROJECTS THAT WE COULD CREATE ALMOST FIVE TIMES OUR ELECTRIC NEED -- CAPACITY IN THE STATE OF IOWA.

Yepsen: THAT'S GREAT BUT YOU'VE STILL GOT SOME OF THE POOREST COUNTIES IN THE STATE UP IN THAT PART OF THE STATE. SO MY QUESTION IS A PROSPECTIVE ONE. WHAT SPECIFIC THINGS WOULD YOU BE DOING TO CREATE MORE JOBS? YOU MENTIONED RENEWABLE ENERGY. ARE THERE OTHERS?

Braley: YES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY IS AVAILABLE IN THOSE POOR RURAL COUNTIES, BECAUSE THAT'S THE KEY TO CONNECTING PEOPLE UP WITH THE GLOBAL ECONOMY THAT WE'RE WORKING IN. AND I'VE TALKED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN BUTLER COUNTY. HE'S TALKED, DAVID, ABOUT HOW WE BUILT THESE INDUSTRIAL PARKS IN EVERY COMMUNITY IN IOWA. NOW MANY OF THEM SIT THERE VACANT. HE WANTS TO SHIFT THE FOCUS TO TECHNOLOGY PARKS WHERE BUSINESSES COME -- CAN COME IN, HAVE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO COMPETE ON AN INTERNATIONAL BASIS.

Yepsen: MR. GLUBA, THE SAME QUESTION. HOW DO YOU CREATE MORE JOBS?

Gluba: FIRST OF ALL, DAVE, YOU'VE GOT TO STOP THE OUTFLOW AND OUTSOURCING OF AMERICAN JOBS. I'VE SEEN FIGURES THAT IOWA, UNDER NAFTA AND CAFTA, HAS LOST APPROXIMATELY 35,000 JOBS. NOW, I KNOW THERE ARE WINNERS AND LOSERS IN THIS CAFTA AND NAFTA WORLD GLOBAL ISSUE, BUT WE'RE LOSING WORKERS. WE LOST 2.9 MILLION MANUFACTURING JOBS SINCE 2001 TO MEXICO AND FREQUENTLY TO CHINA AND INDIA.

Yepsen: SO DUMP NAFTA. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?

Gluba: DUMP NAFTA. THEN LET'S DEVELOP THE -- LET'S MAKE IOWA AN ENERGY PRODUCING STATE. WE'RE THE EDUCATION STATE. I SEE THIS SHORTAGE OF ENERGY POTENTIALLY A WAY TO CREATE A LOT OF JOBS IN IOWA: WIND TOWERS, WIND FARMS, ETHANOL PLANTS, BIODIESEL PLANTS, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER FIELDS THAT WE DO AT THE UNIVERSITY OF -- IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY. SO WE CAN TURN THIS THING AROUND IF WE SHOW SOME VISION AND SOME IDEAS AND SOME GUMPTION TO DO IT.

Yepsen: MR. DICKINSON, JOBS?

Dickinson: DAVE, YOU DON'T NOMINATE AND ELECT SOMEONE THAT SAYS THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU NOMINATE SOMEONE THAT HAS DONE IT. WE'VE DONE THAT FOR THE LAST ELEVEN YEARS OF OUR LIFE. ADS WE SPEAK, 15,000 CITIZENS IN THE FIRST DISTRICT OF IOWA ARE UNEMPLOYED. DOUBLE THAT NUMBER ARE UNDEREMPLOYED. WE HAVE A RECORD OF TURNING DUBUQUE'S ECONOMY AROUND. ONCE THE WEAKEST IN THE STATE, NOW THE STRONGEST. THREE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION LIVES IN DUBUQUE COUNTY, AND THE LAST THREE YEARS IT'S CREATED 9 PERCENT OF ALL PRIVATE SECTOR JOB GROWTH IN THE ENTIRE STATE: 4,000 NEW JOBS NET, 1,000 OF WHICH ARE IN MANUFACTURING, AT THE TIME WE'RE WITNESSING THE DEINDUSTRIALIZATION OF THIS NATION. ELECT SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE IT. WE HAVE DONE IT AND WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.

Glover: MR. BRALEY, THE CANDIDATES HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS BEFORE, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT IRAQ WITH A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. WOULD HAVE YOU VOTED TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ? AND NOW THAT WE'RE THERE, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT GETTING OUT?

Braley: WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION UNLESS YOU WERE SITTING THERE LISTENING TO THE BRIEFINGS THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WERE RECEIVING AT THE TIME THAT WAS TAKING PLACE. KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOW, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HAVE VOTED FOR IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT LIED ABOUT WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, HE LIED ABOUT THE THREAT OF NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION, HE LIED ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS CAPABILITIES. AND THEN AFTER THE FACT, AFTER WE'D ALREADY INVADED IRAQ, MIKE, HE LIED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY HAD CONFIRMED THE EXISTENCE OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

Borg: BUT WE'RE THERE. NOW WHAT -- MIKE'S QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU DO. WE'RE IN THE PRESENT SITUATION, NOT DEALING WITH THE PAST. WHAT DO YOU DO NOW?

Braley: WELL, YOU FIRE DON RUMSFELD, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE CALLED FOR.

Yepsen: MEMBERS OF CONGRESS DON'T GET TO DO THAT.

Braley: YOU CALL FOR THE FIRING OF DON RUMSFELD, BECAUSE IT STARTS AT THE TOP. AND HE ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK, DAVID, THAT THE 133,000 TROOPS IN IRAQ ARE NOT COMING HOME THIS YEAR. HE ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT THERE IS NO LIKELIHOOD BY THE END THE YEAR THE IRAQI FORCES, NOT ONE DIVISION WILL BE CAPABLE OF FIGHTING ON THEIR OWN.

Yepsen: YOU CUT OFF FUNDS TO THE TROOPS.

Braley: WELL, THAT'S WHAT CONGRESS DOES; THEY APPROPRIATE THE MONEY. IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT CARRYING OUT THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY, CONGRESS HAS TO START MAKING CHOICES.

Yepsen: BUT DO YOU VOTE TO DO THAT, AS WAS DONE BACK IN VIETNAM? DO YOU VOTE TO CUT OFF THE FUNDS?

Braley: TO CUT OFF THE FUNDS TO OUR TROOPS ON THE GROUND?

Yepsen: TO GET THEM HOME.

Braley: TO GET THEM HOME. YES, YOU BRING THEM HOME.

Glover: MR. DICKINSON, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. WOULD HAVE YOU VOTED TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ, AND WHAT DO YOU DO NOW THAT THE TROOPS ARE THERE?

Dickinson: I WOULD NOT HAVE, MIKE. A PREEMPTIVE WAR OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS TO HAVE CLEAR AND ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS A THREAT TO AMERICA OR AMERICAN CITIZENS. NOW WE ARE THERE, DEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.

Glover: SO WHAT DO WE DO?

Dickinson: WE NEED TO HAVE A STRATEGY. WE NEED TO THINK. YOU KNOW, CHENEY SAID THE ONLY WAY WE LOSE IS IF WE QUIT. I SAY THE ONLY WAY WE GET OUT OF THERE WITHOUT HAVING A BIGGER MESS THAN WE STARTED WITH IS TO USE OUR HEADS. WE NEED TO BRING THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY INTO THIS DILEMMA. WE NEED TO CONVINCE THOSE PEOPLE THAT BUSH IS SNUBBED, THAT THIS IS OF GLOBAL IMPORTANCE. WE CAN'T LEAVE A VACUUM IN IRAQ.

Yepsen: DO YOU CUT OFF THE FUNDS? DO YOU VOTE TO CUT OFF THE MONEY?

Dickinson: NO. I DISAGREE WITH MY OPPONENTS IN THIS, RESPECTFULLY. I WISH WE WEREN'T THERE. I TOLD YOU I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED TO GO THERE, BUT IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO SAY WE PULL OUT NOW, AS MR. BRALEY HAS SUGGESTED. IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO SAY A TIME LINE THAT PUTS OUR PEOPLE IN JEOPARDY. WE CANNOT AFFORD A VACUUM IN IRAQ TODAY. WE HAVE TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THIS DOES NOT BECOME A FULL-BLOWN CIVIL WAR, A REGIONAL WAR, OR SOMETHING FAR GREATER THAN THAT, DAVE. WE OWE THAT TO OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN.

Glover: MR. GLUBA, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. WOULD YOU HAVE VOTED TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF FORCE? AND WHAT DO YOU DO NOW THAT WE HAVE TROOPS IN THE SITUATION WE HAVE?

Gluba: MIKE, I HOPE I WOULD HAVE BEEN SMART ENOUGH TO VOTE AGAINST THE WAR, LIKE MY GOOD FRIEND AND FORMER CONGRESSMAN JIM LEACH. SO, YES, I WOULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ. I WANT THE PEOPLE, IF THEY WOULD, TO GO ON MY WEB SITE, WWW.GLUBAFORCONGRESS.COM. ON THAT SITE, I'VE LAID OUT A TEN-POINT PROGRAM TO BRING AN END TO THIS WAR IN IRAQ. FOR MY PROGRAM, I'VE GOT THE FULL ENDORSEMENT OF STAR PAC, THE LARGEST PEACE PAC IN IOWA. NOW, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS? ONE, WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND GET A RESOLUTION PASSED CALLING ON THE WORLD COMMUNITY TO HELP US END THIS WAR BY BRINGING IN SUPPORT FROM THE UNITED NATIONS AND BRINGING IN ARAB LEAGUE COUNTRIES. THAT'S ONE. WE'VE GOT TO GET THEM INVOLVED.

Glover: WOULD YOU CUT OFF FUNDS TO TROOPS?

Gluba: NO, NEVER CUT OFF FUNDS TO THE TROOPS. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS REDEPLOY OUR TROOPS. WE STAGED OUR WAY INTO THIS WAR, AND WE NEED TO RE-STAGE OUR WAY OUT. WE NEED TO MOVE THE TROOPS BACK OVER THE BORDERS, AS MY PLAN TALKS ABOUT, AND GRADUALLY PHASE THEM OUT, GET THEM OUT OF THE FIGHT, GET THEM OUT OF THE FIRE FIGHT. YOU KNOW, WHEN 80 PERCENT OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE SAY THAT WE'RE INVADERS AND WE SHOULDN'T BE THERE AND 45 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE SAY IT'S ALL RIGHT TO KILL AMERICAN SOLDIERS, IT'S TIME THAT THE IRAQI PEOPLE STAND UP AND THEIR SOLDIERS STAND UP SO OURS CAN STAND DOWN. ONE OTHER ITEM, WE NEED TO HAVE A MARSHAL TYPE PLAN AT THE SAME TIME TO REBUILD IRAQ. PUT THOSE PEOPLE TO WORK. IF THE IRAQIS ARE WORKING, THEY WON'T BE FIGHTING. IT'S SIMPLY COMMON SENSE.

Yepsen: MR. GLUBA, I HATE TO -- I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT I WANT TO MOVE ONTO ANOTHER SUBJECT, TO THE FARM BILL. THE NEXT CONGRESS WRITES A FARM BILL. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE IN IT?

Gluba: WELL, I WANT TO SEE A LOT OF THESE BIG SUBSIDIES OF THESE BIG, WEALTHY, FAT-CAT FARMERS THAT GET $250,000 A POP, THESE BIG CORPORATE FARMERS REDUCED. IT SHOULD BE GOING TO FAMILY FARMERS. YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY SUBSIDIES OVER $45,000. I MEAN IF YOU'RE UNEMPLOYED OR YOU'RE A WORKER AND YOU'RE LAID OFF, YOU'RE LUCKY TO GET ANYTHING NEAR THAT, SO WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THAT. WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR FAMILY FARMS IN IOWA, NOT BIG CORPORATE FARMS.

Yepsen: MR. DICKINSON?

Dickinson: I AGREE WITH BILL. I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A CAP ON THE BIG SUBSIDIES. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THOUGH, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. CHANNEL THE DOLLARS SO THAT -- ESPECIALLY IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS OVER IN THE FIRST DISTRICT, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH BILLY GOAT COUNTRY, THERE'S SOME PRETTY DRASTIC CONTOURS IN OUR FIELDS. REALLY INVEST IN FILTER STRIPS AND HELPING FARMERS DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND THAT IS PRESERVE THEIR LAND FOR THE NEXT GENERATION AND THE GENERATION BEYOND THAT.

Yepsen: MR. BRALEY, THE FARM BILL?

Braley: THIS IS A VERY PERSONAL ISSUE TO ME BECAUSE MY FAMILY HAS A HISTORY OF BEING IN AGRICULTURE. THE THING THAT'S MOST DISTURBING TO ME IS THE LACK OF YOUNG FARMERS ENTERING THE PROFESSION AND THE INABILITY THAT THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE. SO WE NEED TO BE PROVIDING ECONOMIC INCENTIVES TO KEEP YOUNG PEOPLE ON THE FARM AND TO GO AWAY FROM A POLICY THAT HAS FAVORED CORPORATE FARMING IN FAVOR OF FAMILY FARMING.

Glover: MR. BRALEY, LET'S STAY WITH YOU FOR A SECOND. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT'S TOUCHING PEOPLE IN THEIR POCKETBOOKS THESE DAYS IS GASOLINE PRICES.

Braley: YES.

Glover: NEARLY $3 A GALLON FOR GASOLINE. IT AFFECTS THE ECONOMY FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER. WHAT CAN CONGRESS DO, IF ANYTHING, ABOUT GASOLINE PRICES?

Braley: THEY HAVE TO HAVE BOTH A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION AND A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. THE SHORT-TERM SOLUTION IS TO IMPOSE A WINDFALL PROFITS TAX TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ENORMOUS REVENUES GENERATED BY OIL COMPANIES, ALL THE WHILE THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAS WAIVED ROYALTIES THAT WE ARE ENTITLED TO AS CITIZENS THAT THE OIL COMPANIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING US FOR USE OF PUBLIC LANDS. LONG TERM, MIKE, WE'VE GOT TO SHIFT OUR EMPHASIS FROM FOSSIL FUEL PRODUCTION TO RENEWABLE FUEL PRODUCTION, AND THAT'S WHY IOWA IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO CAPTURE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

Glover: MR. DICKINSON, WINDFALL PROFITS TAX ON OIL COMPANIES?

Dickinson: THERE IS A SHORT-TERM FIX, MIKE: STOP PANDERING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THERE IS NO SHORT-TERM FIX TO $3 A GALLON GAS. WE HAVE PUT PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS THAT HAVE THROWN THE KEYS OF THE ENERGY POLICY TO THE ENERGY INDUSTRY. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE WASHINGTON, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE PEOPLE YOU SEND THERE. THE LONG-TERM FIX IS WE DO NEED AN ENERGY POLICY. WE NEED TO CHANGE CAFE STANDARDS AND CONVINCE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT CONSERVATION HAS TO BE PART OF THE MIX. WE NEED TO LOOK AT RENEWABLE ENERGY. HERE IN IOWA, BIODIESEL, ETHANOL PRODUCTION, AND A NEW TECHNOLOGY WE'RE WORKING ON, AS WE SPEAK, IN EAST DUBUQUE, FISHER-TROPE DIESEL, WHICH TAKES HIGH SULFUR COAL FROM SOUTHERN ILLINOIS, CONVERTS IT TO AFFORDABLE NITROGEN FERTILIZER FOR OUR FARMERS AND DIESEL FUEL. THERE ARE FIXES. WE NEED LEADERS IN WASHINGTON THAT AREN'T BEHOLDEN TO THE ENERGY INDUSTRY.

Glover: MR. GLUBA, WINDFALL PROFITS TAX ON OIL COMPANIES?

Gluba: FIRST OF ALL, MIKE, I DISAGREE WITH MR. DICKINSON ABOUT PANDERING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. TOO OFTEN WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IS PANDERING TO THE OIL COMPANIES. WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS. I'VE CALLED FOR A REBATE. MAKE THE OIL COMPANIES GIVE IT BACK IN THE FORM OF A CASH REBATE. YOU PASS A WINDFALL PROFITS TAX, THIS REPUBLICAN CONGRESS, I GUARANTEE YOU, WILL TURN AROUND AND GIVE IT TO THEIR FAT-CAT OIL BUDDIES IN FORMS OF TAX BREAKS AND TAX DEDUCTIONS. SO RIGHT NOW I WOULD NOT SUPPORT A WINDFALL PROFITS TAX. I WOULD SUPPORT BREAKING THESE OIL COMPANIES UP, GETTING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, HAVING HEARINGS, BRINGING THESE CORPORATE EXECUTIVES IN WHO ARE MAKING -- ONE MADE $400 MILLION LAST YEAR IN HIS SEVERANCE PACKAGE. THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS! THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TO GO BACK TO BEING TOUGH LIKE HARRY TRUMAN WAS AND GO AFTER THESE OUTFITS. WE NEED RENEWABLE ENERGY AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS CLEARLY, BUT THE ANSWER IS BREAK UP THESE OIL COMPANIES, MAKE THEM GIVE THEM BACK SOME OF THOSE PROFITS, AND THAT WILL SHUT THEM DOWN AS FAR AS GOUGING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Yepsen: MR. GLUBA, WE'VE ONLY GOT -- WE'VE GOT LESS THAN TWO MINUTES LEFT, SO WE'LL BREAK IT UP AMONG YOU. HELP A DEMOCRAT OUT. IN A FEW SECONDS, WHEN THEY GO TO VOTE, WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO REMEMBER ABOUT BILL GLUBA?

Gluba: I WANT THEM TO REMEMBER THAT I AM THE REAL DEMOCRAT IN THIS RACE. I HAD THE COURAGE TO TAKE JIM NUSSLE ON, AND I'VE MADE THE ISSUES OF ENDING THIS WAR IN IRAQ THE NUMBER ONE, PROVIDING HEALTH CARE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, LOOKING OUT FOR JOBS, THE TRADITIONAL THINGS THAT DEMOCRATS ARE KNOWN FOR... PEACE, JOBS, AND JUSTICE. AND I'M THE ONLY DEMOCRAT, I MIGHT ADD, THAT PUTS 'DEMOCRAT' ON ALL HIS MATERIAL. THESE TWO FELLAS, JUST UNTIL RECENTLY, WERE ASHAMED TO PUT 'DEMOCRAT' ON THEIR LITERATURE. IT'S ON MY TRUCK. IT'S ON MY VEHICLES. ASK THEM WHY DIDN'T THEY PUT 'DEMOCRAT' ON ALL THEIR SIGNS EARLY ON.

Yepsen: MR. DICKINSON, WHAT DO YOU WANT VOTERS TO REMEMBER ABOUT YOU.

Dickinson: ALL VOTERS THAT KNOW ME KNOW THAT I'M A DEMOCRAT, HAVE BEEN ALL MY LIFE. I'VE SERVED IN THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE. I'VE BEEN A NATIONAL DELEGATE OF THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION. I'VE BEEN ELECTED TO DEMOCRATIC OFFICE FOUR TIMES; NO QUESTION THERE, BILL. I AM THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE'S WORST NIGHTMARE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT DEMOCRATS TO REMEMBER GOING INTO THIS JUNE PRIMARY. WE NEED TO WIN. WE CANNOT CONTINUE DOING THE SAME THING AND EXPECT A DIFFERENT OUTCOME. WE CANNOT HAVE A CANDIDATE BEHOLDEN TO ONE SPECIAL INTEREST AND THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE CLOBBERED BY THE REPUBLICANS.

Yepsen: MR. BRALEY, TWENTY SECONDS.

Braley: I WANT THEM TO REMEMBER THAT I AM ONE OF THEM. I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN. I LIVE IN THE MOST DIVERSE CITY IN IOWA. I'M NOT GOING TO FORGET THE PEOPLE OF IOWA'S FIRST DISTRICT WHEN I WALK INTO THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. I'M GOING TO BE THINKING OF THEM EVERY DAY, AND I'M TAKING THEM WITH ME TO CONGRESS.

Borg: THANK YOU, ALL THREE OF YOU, FOR SPENDING TIME WITH US TODAY. ON OUR NEXT EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS,' WE'LL HAVE THE CANDIDATES SEEKING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S NOMINATION FOR GOVERNOR. IN THE FIRST HALF HOUR, WE'LL QUESTION SECRETARY OF STATE CHET CULVER, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT PROGRAM NEXT FRIDAY NIGHT AT 7:30, WITH A REBROADCAST AT 11:30 SUNDAY MORNING. AND THEN IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING OUR VISIT WITH CHET CULVER, WE'LL QUESTION FORMER CONGRESSMAN MICHAEL BLOUIN, WHO ALSO IS THE FORMER IOWA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. OUR VISIT WITH MR. BLOUIN BEGINS AT 8:00 NEXT FRIDAY NIGHT, AND HIS REBROADCAST IS SUNDAY NOON. NEXT WEEKEND WILL BE THE THIRD OF THREE O

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