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Sen. Mike Gronstal, Sen. Mary Lundby, Rep. Christopher Rants & Rep. Pat Murphy

posted on November 3, 2006

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Yepsen: HANGING IN THE BALANCE IN NOVEMBER 7TH'S GENERAL ELECTION IS CONTROL OF THE IOWA GENERAL ASSEMBLY. WE DISCUSS THE CAMPAIGN OF 2006 WITH FOUR LEGISLATIVE LEADERS: SENATORS MIKE GRONSTAL AND MARY LUNDBY, HOUSE SPEAKER CHRIS RANTS, AND MINORITY LEADER PAT MURPHY, ON THIS EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS.'

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ON STATEWIDE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION, THIS IS THE FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 3 EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS.' HERE IS DAVID YEPSEN.

Yepsen: NATIONALLY DEMOCRATS ARE HOPING FOR A SEA-CHANGE ELECTION, MUCH LIKE THE REPUBLICAN VICTORY OF 1994 WHEN THE G.O.P CLAIMED THE MAJORITY STATUS IN BOTH CHAMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS. BUT REPUBLICANS DON'T AGREE IT'S A DONE DEAL JUST YET. HERE'S A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. IN THE IOWA HOUSE, ALL 100 SEATS ARE ON THE BALLOT, AS THEY ARE EVERY TWO YEARS. IN THE LAST SESSION, REPUBLICANS HELD A TWO-VOTE MAJORITY. THIS ELECTION REPUBLICANS ARE DEFENDING NINE OPEN SEATS AND THE DEMOCRATS TWO. IT'S EVEN TIGHTER IN THE IOWA SENATE WHERE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS SHARED POWER DUE TO A 25/25 TIE. ONE-HALF OF THE 50-SEAT CHAMBER IS ON THE 2006 BALLOT; 14 OF THOSE SEATS ARE DEMOCRATIC AND 11 ARE REPUBLICAN. COME ELECTION NIGHT, CONTROL OF BOTH CHAMBERS IS LIKELY TO BE DECIDED BY ONLY A FEW VOTES. AND HERE TO HELP US SORT THROUGH IT ALL ARE FOUR LEGISLATIVE LEADERS. PAT MURPHY OF DUBUQUE IS THE MINORITY DEMOCRATIC LEADER IN THE IOWA HOUSE. SPEAKER CHRISTOPHER RANTS OF SIOUX CITY LEADS THE REPUBLICANS. SENATOR MIKE GRONSTAL OF COUNCIL BLUFFS IS THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER THERE, AND HIS COUNTERPART, REPUBLICAN SENATOR MARY LUNDBY OF MARION. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US. I KNOW IT'S A BUSY TIME OF THE SEASON FOR YOU ALL.

Gronstal: WE JUST HAVE A FEW THINGS TO DO YET.

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY, I'LL START WITH YOU. WHAT ARE THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT SENATE REPUBLICANS WANT TO DO IF YOU TAKE CONTROL OF THE IOWA SENATE? GIVE US SORT OF YOUR COMMERCIAL, SHORT ONE, THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS YOU WANT TO DO.

Lundby: I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE INTERESTED IN THE SENATE IN A TRUE OVERHAUL OF PROPERTY TAXES IN IOWA, LOOKING AT ALL ASPECTS OF PROPERTY TAX, WHAT WE USE PROPERTY TO PAY FOR, AND HOW WE COLLECT IT, WHERE WE COLLECT IT, AND HOW MUCH WE COLLECT. THAT'S PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE GOAL OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE.

Yepsen: ANY OTHERS?

Lundby: SECONDLY, WE'RE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING THE CLEAN WATER QUALITY PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE AND REAFFIRMING THE COMMITMENTS OF MONEY AND TIME AND ENERGY THAT WE'VE PUT IN THOSE ISSUES, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO REPUBLICANS. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE WANT TO LOOK AT EDUCATION REFORM. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION REFORM IN IOWA.

Yepsen: SENATOR GRONSTAL, HOW ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS? WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU ELECT A DEMOCRAT TO THE IOWA SENATE?

Gronstal: WELL, I THINK CERTAINLY WHAT MOST OF OUR CANDIDATES ARE CAMPAIGNING ON ARE JOBS, EDUCATION, AND HEALTH CARE. THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE TOP THREE ISSUES THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE STATE MAKE PROGRESS ON. BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION, YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THERE IS AN ELECTION GOING ON OUT THERE. AND WE HAVE A GREAT SET OF CANDIDATES THAT HAS GONE OUT AND KNOCKED ON DOORS AND TALKED WITH PEOPLE IN THEIR LIVING ROOMS AND HAVE LISTENED. THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I THINK OUR CANDIDATES HAVE DONE, IS THEY'VE TRAVELED THEIR DISTRICTS AND THEY'VE LISTENED. AND SO I THINK THOSE NEW FACES, WHETHER THEY'RE DEMOCRATIC FACES OR REPUBLICAN FACES, THOSE NEW FACES IN THE LEGISLATURE WILL COME WITH SOME IDEAS. AND WE WILL BE ASSEMBLING AN AGENDA AFTER THE ELECTION WHEN WE KNOW WHO THE PLAYERS ARE.

Yepsen: LET'S SWITCH TO THE HOUSE SIDE. SPEAKER RANTS, WHAT ARE THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS WANT TO DO IF YOU'RE SPEAKER AGAIN?

Rants: WELL, I THINK EACH CANDIDATE BRINGS THEIR OWN SET OF ISSUES. MANY OF THEM ARE SIMILAR BUT SOME CANDIDATES, FOR INSTANCE, ARE RUNNING ON THE ISSUE OF PROPERTY TAXES, AS MARY POINTED OUT. OVER IN COUNCIL BLUFFS, IT MIGHT BE OUR CANDIDATES ARE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM AND TRYING TO DO SMALL BUSINESS INSURANCE POOLS. UP IN DAVE DEYOE'S DISTRICT, IT'S PROBABLY MORE ABOUT ETHANOL. EVERY CANDIDATE BRINGS THEIR OWN SET OF ISSUES, UNLIKE WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENING NATIONALLY, WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO NATIONALIZE ELECTIONS. HERE IN IOWA, HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE TALKING ABOUT VERY SPECIFIC LOCAL ISSUES IN EACH SPECIFIC DISTRICT. EASTERN IOWA AND WESTERN IOWA, NORTH AND SOUTH, WE ALL REPRESENT DIFFERENT AREAS. WE HAVE TO GET ELECTED ON THE ISSUES THAT MATTER TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEN BRING THOSE DOWN TO DES MOINES AND THEN TRY TO ASSEMBLE THAT AGENDA.

Yepsen: MR. MURPHY, HOUSE DEMOCRATS? IF YOU'RE THE SPEAKER, WHAT DO YOU FOLKS WANT TO DO?

Murphy: WELL, DEMOCRATS RELEASED ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE TONE THAT THE CAMPAIGNS HAD BEEN TAKING, WE DECIDED TO DO A POSITIVE APPROACH AND WE TALKED ABOUT A PLAN FOR PROSPERITY WHERE WE WOULD LOOK AT THREE AREAS. THE FIRST ONE IS MAKING IOWA A GREENER STATE, DOING MORE IN THE AREA RENEWABLE FUELS WITH ETHANOL, SOY DIESEL, BIO REFINERIES, AS WELL AS WIND ENERGY. BUT ALONG WITH THAT, WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON BUSINESS, AND THAT MEANT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE, ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD INSURANCE POOLS FOR SMALL BUSINESS, AND ALSO ADDRESSING PROPERTY TAXES AS IT DEALS WITH BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL. AND THE THIRD PIECE WAS TO LOOK TO AT EDUCATION FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD THROUGH GRADUATE SCHOOL, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE COSTS OF EDUCATION, ESPECIALLY AT THE REGENTS WHERE WE'VE HAD A 90-PERCENT INCREASE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. IF DEMOCRATS ARE ELECTED IN THE HOUSE, WE PRESENTED A PLAN THAT WE PLAN TO PROCEED WITH, AND ALL DEMOCRATS THAT ARE RUNNING ON THE BALLOT HAVE AGREED TO SUPPORT THE PLAN FOR PROSPERITY.

Yepsen: I WANT TO -- WE WANT TO TOUCH ON ALL THOSE IF WE CAN IF WE GET TIME BEFORE THE END OF THE PROGRAM, BUT I WANT TO JUST TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT THE TENOR OF THIS CAMPAIGN. THIS SEEMS TO ME TO BE, SENATOR GRONSTAL, THE MOST EXPENSIVE CAMPAIGN FOR THE IOWA LEGISLATURE THAT I CAN REMEMBER AND ALSO ONE OF THE MOST NEGATIVE. A LOT MORE NEGATIVE TV ADS AND STUFF IN THE MAIL. AM I RIGHT? IS THIS A NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN FOR THE LEGISLATURE?

Gronstal: I THINK CAMPAIGNS HAVE BECOME MORE COMPARATIVE AND MORE NEGATIVE OVER THE YEARS I'VE SERVED IN OFFICE. BUT I'D SAY MOST OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THAT RESPECT IS AT THE LEVEL JUST ABOVE US, AT THE CONGRESSIONAL RACE LEVEL AND AT THE GUBERNATORIAL LEVEL, SOME ADS THAT ARE FRANKLY UNBELIEVABLE FOR MANY PEOPLE. SO I THINK IT'S AT A LITTLE HIGHER LEVEL. AND IN THE SENATE, IT'S NOT QUITE SO EASY TO MAKE THAT CASE BECAUSE MOST OF THE SEATS THAT ARE TRULY IN PLAY ARE THE SEATS THAT ARE OPEN SEATS TO NEW CANDIDATES.

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY, WHAT'S YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE CLIMATE?

Lundby: I THINK THAT WHETHER WE'RE MAJORITY OR MINORITY -- AND OF COURSE WE HOPE TO BE THE MAJORITY PARTY -- THAT SENATOR GRONSTAL AND I SHOULD SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THE TENOR OF THE CAMPAIGNS AND TALK ABOUT TRUTH IN CAMPAIGNS AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE COMPARISONS -- LEGITIMATE COMPARISONS WITHOUT DESTROYING PEOPLE'S PERSONAL LIVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. AND I HOPE WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

Yepsen: MR. MURPHY, WHAT'S YOUR ASSESSMENT ON THE HOUSE SIDE? HAVE THESE CAMPAIGNS BEEN INORDINATELY NEGATIVE, OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING?

Murphy: I THINK ON THE HOUSE SIDE, AT LEAST THE WAY DEMOCRATS SEE IT, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT, YEAH, SOME OF THE TENOR HAS BEEN VERY NEGATIVE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF 527S, ESPECIALLY THE REPUBLICAN STATE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE THAT HAS DONE MAILINGS ON BEHALF OF REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE LIKE BOB KRESSIG, DAWN PETTENGILL, THAT WERE NOT IN THE LEGISLATURE THAT DIDN'T CAST A VOTE ON CERTAIN BILLS THAT THEY'RE DOING MAILINGS ON. THEY'VE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM IN RACES INVOLVING PAUL SHOMSHOR AND A COUPLE OF OTHER CANDIDATES AS WELL. AND I THINK THE TENOR, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT KEVIN WISKUS LEFT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BECAUSE OF A MAILING THAT WAS DONE AGAINST KURT SWAIM, I THINK THE TENOR ON THE HOUSE SIDE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY NEGATIVE. BUT THE PART THAT DEMOCRATS WANTED TO TALK ABOUT -- AND THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO CHANGE THE TONE ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO -- WAS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO POSITIVELY INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT THE NEGATIVE.

Yepsen: SPEAKER RANTS, IS THIS JUST PART OF THE GAME, OR IS THIS GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM FOR YOU FOLKS WHEN YOU COME BACK INTO SESSION? THE WAY I READ IT, NO MATTER WHO HAS THE MAJORITY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GREAT BIG ONE IN EITHER CHAMBER AND SO THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME GIVE AND TAKE. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IS IT GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE TO WORK TOGETHER, GIVEN THE NEGATIVE TONE OF THIS CAMPAIGN.

Rants: IT MAY BE. I'M NOT GOING TO LIE TO YOU. THERE WERE HARD FEELINGS AFTER THE LAST CAMPAIGN, AND I IMAGINE THERE WILL BE SOME HARD FEELINGS AFTER THIS CAMPAIGN. I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN IOWA IS RACES HAVE GOTTEN A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE, AS YOU POINTED OUT, AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE OUTSIDE GROUPS THAT ARE COMING IN. LAST TIME -- AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE RAISED THIS TIME FOR THE DLCC, THE DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATIVE CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE, THEY CAME IN AND SPENT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN THIS STATE IN ADDITION TO THE MOVEON.ORGs AND THE AMERICA COMING AMERICA. A LOT OF OUT-OF-STATE MONEY COMING IN. REPUBLICANS HAVE RESPONDED WITH SOME OF THAT. I MEAN REPUBLICANS WEREN'T JUST GOING TO SIT AROUND AND BE PUNCHING BAGS THAT TIME. AND I KNOW THE DLCC IS BACK. I KNOW THAT YOU SEE A LOT OF ISSUES FROM OTHER STATES I THINK THAT ARE STARTING TO PERVADE IOWA. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A HEALTHY THING, INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING ON IOWA ISSUE. I MEAN WHEN THE IOWA DEMOCRATIC PARTY PUTS OUT A MAILING WITH A CADAVER ON IT AND BASICALLY REFERRING THAT REPUBLICANS WANT PEOPLE TO DIE AND IT'S THE EXACT SAME MAILING THAT THE INDIANA DEMOCRATIC PARTY PUT OUT. I MEAN IT IS IDENTICAL, AND IT'S BEEN COVERED BY THE NATIONAL NEWS, YOU START TO WONDER WHO'S CALLING THE SHOTS HERE. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HOOSIER ISSUES OR HAWKEYE STATE ISSUES? SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. AND IT'S -- AS SENATOR LUNDBY APPOINTED OUT, I THINK PROBABLY ALL THE LEADERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SIT DOWN AFTERWARD BECAUSE, LOOK, SOMETIMES WE PASS LEGISLATION AND WE SAY, OKAY, REPUBLICANS WILL PUT UP SO MANY VOTES, DEMOCRATS WILL PUT UP SO MANY VOTES, DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD REALLY BE A CAMPAIGN ISSUE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL OUGHT TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET DONE. AND THEN TO HAVE THAT THROWN BACK IN YOUR FACE WHEN THE CAMPAIGN SEASON STARTS, THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO PUT TOGETHER THOSE BIPARTISAN AGREEMENTS IN THE FUTURE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

Yepsen: WELL, AFTER THE ELECTION AND YOU'VE ALL COME TOGETHER AND ARE SINGING KUMBAYA, WELL, WE'LL HAVE YOU BACK OUT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO TURN TO THE ISSUES, THOUGH, THAT YOU'VE ALL MENTIONED. AND I'LL START WITH YOU, MR. MURPHY. EVERYBODY HERE HAS MENTIONED JOBS AND THE ECONOMY. YOU SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THE MINIMUM WAGE. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PROSPECTS WILL BE FOR A HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE IN IOWA?

Murphy: I THINK THE PROSPECTS FOR A HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE DEPENDS ON WHO YOU -- WHO HAS CONTROL OF THE LEGISLATURE. CONGRESSMAN NUSSLE HAS ALREADY SAID THAT IF HE'S GOVERNOR HE WON'T PUSH FOR IT. THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATURE TO BE IN CONTROL, AND I HOPE THAT WE HAVE CHET CULVER AS A GOVERNOR BECAUSE HE'S AGREED THAT HE WOULD RAISE IT TO 7.25 BY THE YEAR 2009. SO WE'D BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. AND EVERY DEMOCRAT IN THE HOUSE SUPPORTED THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE WHEN WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT EARLIER THIS YEAR.

Yepsen: SPEAKER RANTS?

Rants: THERE ARE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS THAT ALSO SUPPORT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE. I'M ONE OF THEM. OUR CAVEAT BEING WE KNOW THAT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE ALSO INCREASES THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO DO SOME THINGS TO CONTROL THE COST FOR IOWA SMALL BUSINESSES, LIKE WORKING ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES, LIKE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT SOME OF THE RED TAPE, LIKE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE POOLS. WHEN REPUBLICANS OFFERED THAT AMENDMENT, PAT, YOU GUYS THEN JERKED THE RUG OUT FROM UNDERNEATH IT. WE OFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO LOOK AT A WIDER APPROACH TO ALL THAT. DEMOCRATS ONLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT RAISING THE COST, NOT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THE OTHER BURDENSOME REGULATIONS.

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY, HOW ABOUT IN THE SENATE.

Lundby: JOBS BETTER BE ABOUT MORE THAN JUST THE MINIMUM WAGE.

Yepsen: BUT MY NARROW QUESTION HERE IS MINIMUM WAGE. ARE SENATE REPUBLICANS GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, OR WILL THERE HAVE TO BE OTHER THINGS ATTACHED TO IT?

Lundby: YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION IN FULL, DAVID, TO BE VERY TRUTHFUL. WE'VE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE MINIMUM WAGE LAST YEAR. THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF SUPPORT IN THE CAUCUS ON THE MINIMUM WAGE, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN JIM NUSSLE IS GOVERNOR THAT WE WILL BE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM. I KNOW HE'S SUPPORTIVE OF IT, AND I KNOW MY CAUCUS WILL PROBABLY TRY TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW GOVERNOR.

Yepsen: SENATOR GRONSTAL, ARE WE GOING TO SEE A HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE?

Gronstal: NO STRINGS ATTACHED. NO LEGISLATIVE LOGROLLING. DEMOCRATS WILL PASS AN INCREASE IN THE MINIMUM WAGE. AND JIM NUSSLE HAS IN ESSENCE SAID IT. ON ONE OF THOSE RARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE A CANDIDATE GOES OFF SCRIPT, THEY ASK HIM A QUESTION, HE SAYS IT'S NOT A PRIORITY OF MINE, AND YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE A DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATURE BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE WON'T PASS IT. THAT'S WHAT JIM NUSSLE SAID.

Yepsen: SENATOR GRONSTAL, EVERYBODY HERE HAS ALSO MENTIONED PROPERTY TAXES IN ONE FORM. HOW DO YOU SOLVE THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAX PROBLEM IN IOWA? IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE ONLY GOT ONE OPTION AND THAT IS TO TAKE SOME SALES AND INCOME TAX REVENUES AND SOMEHOW BUY DOWN TAXES FOR BUSINESS. IS THAT A FAIR --

Gronstal: I CERTAINLY THINK THAT IS PART OF THE SOLUTION, AND I THINK THAT'S THE SINGLE BIGGEST TAX ISSUE WE NEED TO TACKLE IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES. THAT'S THE BIGGEST DISINCENTIVE TO DOING BUSINESS IN THE STATE. THAT IS REALLY ONE WE WANT TO LOOK AT AND FIND A SOLUTION. I WOULD ALSO CAUTION, I'M NOT GOING TO PROMISE PEOPLE AN OVERNIGHT MAGIC SOLUTION THAT SOLVES IT ALL. IT TOOK US 28 YEARS TO GET TO THIS PLACE WHERE THE BURDEN HAS SHIFTED SO DRAMATICALLY TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX IT IN ONE YEAR.

Yepsen: MR. MURPHY, TOUCH PLAY. IS TOUCH PLAY COMING BACK IN IOWA?

Murphy: THERE IS NO PLAN OF ANY SORT. IT'S A REPUBLICAN IMAGINATION OF A SECRET PLAN TO BRING BACK TOUCH PLAY. TOUCH PLAY WILL NOT BE COMING BACK --

Yepsen: SPEAKER RANTS?

Murphy: -- WITH DEMOCRATS.

Rants: I'D BE CURIOUS TO HELP YOU TALK ABOUT A SETTLEMENT TOO. I MEAN --

Yepsen: WELL, OKAY, THERE'S --

Rants: THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT SUDDENLY FLOWED OUT.

Gronstal: THIS IS CRAZIER THAN TOTAL NUDE DANCING. THE HAIL MARY -- THE HAIL MARY PASS OF 1998. IT DIDN'T WORK THEN. THERE IS NO PLAN TO BRING TOUCH PLAY BACK. THERE IS NO PLAN TO DO A SETTLEMENT. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS GOING TO LITIGATE THIS CASE, AND WE'RE GOING TO LET HIM LITIGATE IT.

Yepsen: DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT, SENATOR LUNDBY?

Lundby: THAT THERE'S NO PLAN? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME.

Yepsen: RIGHT.

Lundby: I JUST REMEMBER BEING IN THE SENATE AT THE END OF SESSION LAST YEAR AFTER WE DEALT WITH TOUCH PLAY, AND THERE WAS A STRONG CONTINGENCY OF DEMOCRATS THAT WERE WORKING ON A PLAN FOR A SETTLEMENT. NOW, MR. GRONSTAL SAYS THAT PLAN HAS CHANGED. I WOULD TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD. BUT LAST YEAR AT THE END OF SESSION, THERE WAS A STRONG INDICATION TO ME AND OUR CAUCUS THAT THERE WAS A PLAN FOR A SETTLEMENT BY DEMOCRAT SENATORS.

Gronstal: IF THE LOGIC IS TRUE, THEN CHRIS RANTS HAS A PLAN TO BRING BACK EMINENT DOMAIN, BECAUSE HIS 527 HAS TAKEN THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF CONTRIBUTIONS FROM BIG DEVELOPERS. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER HAIL MARY PASS AT THE END OF A CAMPAIGN. AND THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES, ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE OUR OPPORTUNITIES IN BIOFUELS AND GREENER ENERGY. THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE. IT'S SOME -- IT'S SOME, GEE, THERE MUST BE A SECRET PLAN.

Yepsen: LET'S TALK ABOUT RENEWABLE FUELS. SENATOR LUNDBY, EVERYBODY IS FOR RENEWABLE FUELS IN IOWA. IT'S LIKE GOD, MOTHERHOOD, APPLE PIE, THE FLAG, AND RENEWABLE FUELS.

Lundby: CORRECT.

Yepsen: WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT, THOUGH? WHAT SPECIFICALLY WILL THE NEXT SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE DO TO FOSTER MORE RENEWABLE FUELS IN IOWA? ETHANOL MANDATES?

Lundby: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVEN'T MADE ALL OF OUR DECISIONS ON RENEWABLE FUELS. WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS CONTACTING THOSE SENATORS THAT HAVE WORKED ON THIS ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME: SENATOR HUBERT HOUSER OUT OF CARSON, IOWA; SENATOR DAVID JOHNSON OUT OF OCHEYEDAN, IOWA. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED ON THAT ISSUE THE MOST, WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING SPECIFICALLY ON THE RENEWABLE ISSUES AND ARE BRINGING IDEAS ABOUT THAT.

Yepsen: SENATOR GRONSTAL, YOU BROUGHT IT UP. WHAT DO DEMOCRATS WANT TO DO?

Gronstal: WE NEED MORE INVESTMENTS AT OUR UNIVERSITIES TO KEEP US ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF RESEARCH. WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TO TARGET BUSINESSES -- DECKER TRUCKING IN FORT DODGE, IOWA, IS GOING TO DO A TWO-MILLION-MILE TEST OF 20-PERCENT SOYDIESEL BLEND OF FUEL. SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BOTH TEST THIS IN THE MARKETPLACE AND BRING ON THE NEW RESEARCH. THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT ARE DEVELOPING WAYS TO GROW NOT ETHANOL, BUTENYL. BUTENYL HAS A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. IT'S MORE COMPARABLE TO GAS IN TERMS OF HOW YOU USE IT SO THAT -- WE JUST NEED TO STAY ABSOLUTELY ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF THIS. WE HAVE THE FARMERS TO GROW THE CROPS. WE HAVE THE RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS AT IOWA STATE TO PARTNER WITH FARMERS AND BUSINESSES ON HOW TO STAY ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF THIS.

Yepsen: SPEAKER RANTS, EVERYBODY IS FOR RENEWABLE FUELS.

Rants: ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I THINK THAT --

Yepsen: WHAT DO YOU DO?

Rants: ONE OF THE FIRST THING I THINK WE HAVE TO DO AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SESSION IS START WORKING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. IT'S USUALLY ONE OF THE LAST APPROPRIATIONS BILLS -- AND I KNOW I'M GETTING INTO INSIDE BASEBALL -- BUT WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY AT IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY, PARTNERING WITH OTHER UNIVERSITIES TO DRAW DOWN THIS BP HALF-A-BILLION-DOLLAR INITIATIVE TO FOCUS ON RENEWABLE FUELS. THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A BUILDING. YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE SCIENTISTS. YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A BUILDING. IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT PURSUING THAT, I THINK THE LEGISLATURE NEEDS TO GO IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND CARVE OUT THE MONEY TO SET ASIDE TO SHOW THAT THIS STATE IS SERIOUS ABOUT GETTING THAT GRANT AND BRINGING THOSE SCIENTISTS TO IOWA TO DO IT. THAT'S THE FIRST THING. NUMBER TWO, WE'VE GOT TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH ADMINISTRATIVE RULES RIGHT NOW. I'M A LITTLE LEERY THAT THINGS MIGHT NOT -- I THINK THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE BILL WE PASSED LAST YEAR THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES PROCESS. REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT E85 GOING OUT AND THAT WE'VE GOT OUR INCENTIVE DOLLARS GOING OUT FOR THOSE TANKS GOING OUT ALL ACROSS THE STATE.

Yepsen: MR. MURPHY, WHAT DO DEMOCRATS WANT TO DO IN THE HOUSE?

Murphy: WELL, I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. I GENERALLY AGREE WITH EVERYBODY THAT HAS BEEN SAID AT THE TABLE SO FAR, BUT THE ONE THING THAT'S BEEN MISSING IS THE ISSUE OF BIOREFINERIES. LAST YEAR WAS AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY REPRESENTATIVE ROB HOGG, WHO IS NOW RUNNING FOR THE SENATE, WHO OFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO SET MONEY ASIDE IN THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAD STRICTLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF BIOREFINERIES. THAT WAS OFFERED ON THE FLOOR. IT WAS VOTED DOWN ON A PARTISAN 51/48 VOTE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE AREA WE NEED TO GO IN. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE FEDERAL BILLS LOOKING AT GOING INTO BIOREFINERIES, AND IOWA IS ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF THAT. IF WE PUT MONEY IN WITH THE FEDERAL GRANTS, WE WILL ATTRACT SOME BUSINESSES HERE THAT ARE ON THE CUTTING EDGE. IT GOES BACK TO WHAT SENATOR GRONSTAL WAS SAYING. SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE SINGLE BIGGEST THING WE CAN DO IN THIS COMING SESSION.

Yepsen: MR. RANTS, HOGS, HOG LOTS, LIVESTOCK CONFINEMENTS. I ASKED THE GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATES THIS QUESTION: HOW DO YOU BALANCE THE NEED FOR A STRONG PRODUCTION AGRICULTURE SECTOR WITH A NEED TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT? IF I CAN THINK OF ONE ISSUE OUT THERE THAT IS REALLY HOT IN RURAL IOWA, IT'S THAT QUESTION. SO WHAT SPECIFICALLY WILL HOUSE REPUBLICANS BE DOING ON THAT QUESTION IN THE NEXT SESSION?

Rants: IT IS A DECISION -- OR EXCUSE ME, IT IS A DIFFICULT PROBLEM, GETTING EVERYBODY TO LIVE IN BALANCE. I KNOW THAT REPRESENTATIVE MIKE MAY, WHO IS UP IN THE GREAT LAKES AREA, IS LOOKING AT DO WE NEED TO EXPAND THE DISTANCES AROUND THE LAKES, CARVING OUT THOSE AREAS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY PRISTINE AREAS, THOSE NATURAL RESOURCES WE HAVE TO PROTECT. I THINK YOU MAY SEE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T CHASE LIVESTOCK OUT OF IOWA. PARTICULARLY UP IN NORTHWEST IOWA, YOU HAVE A LOT OF LIVESTOCK. THAT'S WHAT BRINGS HARD DOLLARS INTO THOSE COUNTIES AND IS GOING TO KEEP OUR LOCAL SMALLER COMMUNITIES ALIVE. YOU CANNOT CHASE LIVESTOCK OUT OF THE STATE. YOU CAN PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT, AND I THINK WE MAYBE NEED TO REEXAMINE THOSE BOUNDARIES THAT WE'VE SET, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO CHASE LIVESTOCK OUT OF THE STATE.

Yepsen: YOU KNOW THE BUZZ PHRASE. LOCAL CONTROL?

Rants: I DON'T THINK YOU SEE -- I DON'T SEE TURNING IT OVER TO 99 SETS OF REGULATIONS.

Yepsen: MR. MURPHY?

Murphy: I WOULD -- WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY YOU BROUGHT UP HOGS, HE BROUGHT UP WATER. AND I THINK THE BIG LINE HERE THAT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON CLEAN WATER SO IOWANS HAVE ACCESS TO IT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT FISHABLE AND SWIMMABLE IS, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE THE ULTIMATE GOAL, THAT THE STATE HAS AN APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS LONG TERM THE NEEDS OF EVERY COMMUNITY IN THE STATE. NOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF LOCAL CONTROL, EVEN IN OUR CAUCUS, THERE IS A DIVISION WITHIN OUR CAUCUS ON THE ISSUE OF LOCAL CONTROL. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE WILL ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. I THINK THE ISSUE THAT WE WILL ADDRESS GOES BACK TO THE PLAN FOR PROSPERITY, WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING IT A GREEN STATE. AND ONE OF THOSE PIECES IS TALKING ABOUT CLEAN WATER, SO I THINK THAT THE FOCUS OF OUR CAUCUS.

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY, WHAT ABOUT SENATE REPUBLICANS? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF LIVESTOCK VERSUS THE ENVIRONMENT?

Lundby: I THINK WE WANT TO JUST BE CAREFUL ON HOW QUICKLY WE MOVE ON LOCAL CONTROL. AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE AS I WATCH RESEARCH AND I TALK TO PEOPLE ACROSS IOWA, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS GOING ON WITH THE MANURE AND THE EFFLUENCE THAT'S LEFT FROM LIVESTOCK FACILITIES. THEY'RE NOW STARTING WITH PROJECTS THAT BURN THE METHANOL, THAT GATHER IT AND BURN THAT METHANE, THAT HAVE OTHER USES FOR IT. AND DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT RESEARCH ON ODOR AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT RESEARCH ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS PRODUCT BEING USEFUL OTHER THAN JUST FERTILIZER, I THINK WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES, AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO SLOW ON IT.

Yepsen: SENATOR GRONSTAL, YOU'VE CUT YOUR SHARE OF POLITICAL DEALS DURING YOUR CAREER. HOW DO YOU BALANCE THIS ONE?

Gronstal: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK YOU BALANCE IT. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TRADEOFF ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE FOR THE ECONOMIC SIDE. I DON'T THINK THAT -- I DON'T THINK YOU TALK ABOUT BALANCING THAT. I THINK YOU TALK ABOUT A SET OF TOUGH REGULATIONS THAT WILL MAKE SURE OUR WATER STAYS CLEAN. BUT I ALSO DON'T THINK YOU RUN THE HOG INDUSTRY OUT OF THE STATE. THAT IS VALUE-ADDED AGRICULTURE, 10-FOLD INCREASE IN THE VALUE OF A BUSHEL OF CORN CONVERTED FROM THE CORN TO MEAT. I DON'T THINK YOU RUN THE HOG INDUSTRY OUT OF THE STATE. AND IT'S A REALLY TOUGH ISSUE. AND LET'S FACE IT, IT IS A REALLY TOUGH ISSUE.

Yepsen: SO WHERE'S THE MIDDLE GROUND?

Gronstal: THE MIDDLE GROUND IS IN RESEARCH, TECHNOLOGY, AND HELPING FARMERS FARM IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T TRADE OFF THE ENVIRONMENT. I DON'T WANT TO -- I'M NOT IN A BALANCING ACT AS TO HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO POLLUTE. I THINK WE STOP THE POLLUTION, AND WE TELL PEOPLE IF THEY'RE GOING TO POLLUTE, WE'RE GOING TO RUN YOU OUT OF BUSINESS. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO FARM IN A WAY THAT'S IN CONCERT WITH THE LAND AND PRESERVES THE LAND AND TO SOME DEGREE AVOIDING IMPORTED FERTILIZER, IMPORTED NITROGEN FERTILIZER, AND USING MANURE INSTEAD IS A VERY GREEN APPROACH. AND SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO HELP THE LIVESTOCK INDUSTRY DEVELOP THOSE KINDS OF OPTIONS SO THAT THEY CAN FARM IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T POLLUTE. WE'RE NOT TRADING OFF THE ENVIRONMENT IN A BALANCING ACT. WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP THE ENVIRONMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO PROMOTE THE PORK INDUSTRY, THE LIVESTOCK INDUSTRY IN GENERAL.

Yepsen: SENATOR GRONSTAL, WE'VE ONLY GOT A FEW MINUTES LEFT. I WANT TO CHANGE SUBJECTS AND FOCUS ON HEALTH CARE. YOU'VE ALL MENTIONED SOME VARIATION OF THAT. I KNOW THAT'S A QUESTION ON THE MINDS OF A LOT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. BUT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, CAN THE STATE OF IOWA REALLY DO MUCH ABOUT THE, QUOTE/UNQUOTE, HEALTH CARE CRISIS IN THE COUNTRY? IF SO, WHAT?

Gronstal: WELL, ACTUALLY I THINK IN A LOT OF WAYS WE CAN BE LEADERS. I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT -- WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES. WE ARE -- WE'RE THE LOWEST IN REIMBURSEMENTS UNDER MEDICARE. OUR MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENTS ARE CUT KIND OF TIGHT TO MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENTS. THAT MEANS PROVIDERS DON'T GET VERY MUCH MONEY FOR THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE.

Yepsen: SO WHAT SPECIFICALLY --

Gronstal: WE'RE FIFTIETH IN THE COUNTRY, BUT LOOK AT OUR OPPORTUNITIES. WE'RE SEVENTH IN THE COUNTRY WHEN IT COMES TO QUALITY OF CARE. WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD SYSTEM THAT DELIVERS HEALTH CARE PRETTY WELL. AND WHAT DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WE HAVE TO DO? WE HAVE TO SHIFT TO A SYSTEM THAT'S LESS ON TREATING DISEASE AND MORE ON HELPING PEOPLE MANAGE DISEASE. IF WE TOOK A COUPLE OF AREAS AND REALLY CONCENTRATED ON HYPERTENSION. YOU KNOW, TELL ME TO GET A LITTLE MORE EXERCISE. IF I WASN'T ON THE PHONE RAISING MONEY, I'D BE OUT KNOCKING DOORS. THAT'S BETTER FOR PEOPLE'S HEALTH. FINDING WAYS TO MANAGE CHRONIC DISEASES, AND THEN A SYSTEM THAT STARTS TO TURN THE FOCUS FROM SICKNESS TO WELLNESS.

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY, WHAT DO SENATE REPUBLICANS WANT TO DO ABOUT HEALTH CARE PROBLEMS IN IOWA?

Lundby: I'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS WITH THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY THAT PROVIDES HEALTH CARE IN THE STATE OF IOWA. THEY ARE VERY, VERY WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ON WHAT WE DO TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. INSURANCE POOLS AND TALK ABOUT PREMIUM COSTS AND THE SHARING OF PREMIUM COSTS AND THE CATASTROPHIC INSURANCE COSTS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS. AND THEY KNOW THAT IT'S A SERIOUS SITUATION. IOWANS KNOW IT'S A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION, AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THE INDUSTRY, SIT DOWN WITH THE EMPLOYERS AND THE EMPLOYEES, AND FIND A SOLUTION. ONE THING WE SHOULD BE WATCHING IS WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN MASSACHUSETTS. THEY FORMED A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND GOT 500 MILLION A YEAR TO HELP CURE THEIR PROBLEM WITH INSURANCE FOR EVERYONE. HOSPITALS WERE INVOLVED, THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY INVOLVED, EMPLOYERS WERE INVOLVED, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS INVOLVED IN PARTNERSHIP. AND WE CAN DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

Yepsen: MR. MURPHY, WHAT DO HOUSE DEMOCRATS WANT TO DO ABOUT HEALTH CARE PROBLEMS?

Murphy: WELL, ACTUALLY OUR PLAN FOR PROSPERITY SPELLED THAT OUT. WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO DO A FORM OF GROUP POOLING. AND I THINK REPRESENTATIVE CLARENCE HOFFMAN GAVE THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THAT. THERE WAS A PLAN OFFERED THAT WOULD HAVE BASICALLY GOT SMALL BUSINESSES HEALTH INSURANCE. BUT IF WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL THAT WAS CONSIDERED IN THE HOUSE AND THEN WITHDRAWN FROM THE FLOOR, I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND DEMOCRATS WOULD SUPPORT THAT. THE THINK THE OTHER AREA THAT WE'D BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING IN, BUT THEN IT COSTS MONEY, IS THE WHOLE ISSUE OF HOW WE DEAL WITH REINSURANCE.

Yepsen: MR. RANTS, WE'VE ONLY GOT ABOUT THIRTY SECONDS LEFT.

Rants: HOUSE REPUBLICANS WILL LEAD WITH HEALTH INSURANCE, SMALL BUSINESS GROUP POOLS. WE WANT SMALL BUSINESSES TO COME TOGETHER SO THEY CAN PURCHASE HEALTH INSURANCE LIKE LARGE CORPORATIONS CAN. THE IDEA THAT REPRESENTATIVE MURPHY TALKED ABOUT WOULD HAVE LEFT 90 PERCENT OF IOWA SMALL BUSINESSES BEHIND. REPUBLICANS BELIEVE EVERY SMALL BUSINESS HAS THE RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE HEALTH INSURANCE POOL.

Yepsen: CIGARETTE TAX BE INCREASED?

Rants: APPARENTLY WE ALL DON'T THINK SO.

Yepsen: OKAY, THANK YOU. WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

Rants: THANK YOU, DAVID.

Yepsen: APPRECIATE IT. NOW, ON OUR NEXT EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS,' OUR TEAM OF POLITICAL AND LEGISLATIVE REPORTERS WILL DISCUSS THE RESULTS OF TUESDAY'S ELECTION. DEAN BORG WILL HOST AND I'LL BE JOINED BY FELLOW JOURNALISTS MIKE GLOVER OF THE 'ASSOCIATED PRESS,' KAY HENDERSON OF 'RADIO IOWA,' AND JENEANE BECK OF 'KUNI PUBLIC RADIO.' WE AIR AT OUR REGULAR 'IOWA PRESS' AIRTIMES: FRIDAY AT 7:30 AND SUNDAY MORNING AT 11:30. I HOPE YOU'LL BE JOINING US. I'M DAVID YEPSEN OF 'THE DES MOINES REGISTER.' THANKS FOR BEING WITH US HERE ON IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION.

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