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Rep. Christopher Rants & Sen. Mary Lundby

posted on January 5, 2007

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Borg: A NEW ROLE. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A DECADE, REPUBLICANS AREN'T SETTING THE AGENDA FOR IOWA'S GENERAL ASSEMBLY. MINORITY PERSPECTIVE FROM REPUBLICAN LEGISLATIVE LEADERS CHRISTOPHER RANTS AND MARY LUNDBY ON THIS EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS.'

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ON STATEWIDE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION, THIS IS THE FRIDAY, JANUARY 5 EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS.' HERE IS DEAN BORG.

Borg: MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE SHIFT IN POWER IN THE NEW IOWA LEGISLATURE, THE IOWA STATEHOUSE. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE OVER TEN YEARS SINCE DEMOCRATS CONTROLLED EITHER HOUSE IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, NEARLY HALF A CENTURY, ACTUALLY 42 YEARS SINCE THEY CONTROLLED BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND EXECUTIVE BRANCHES OF IOWA GOVERNMENT. WELL, THE LEGISLATURE CONVENING ON MONDAY LOOKS LIKE THIS. IN THE IOWA SENATE, VOTERS ELEVATED DEMOCRATS FROM LAST SESSION'S 25/25 POWER SHARE TO A 10-SEAT MAJORITY. IN THE IOWA HOUSE LAST SESSION, REPUBLICANS HAD A SLIM BUT EFFECTIVE TWO-VOTE MAJORITY. BUT WITH MONDAY'S CONVENING OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, DEMOCRATS HAVE A 54-TO-46, 8-VOTE MARGIN. SIOUX CITY REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTOPHER RANTS IS NOW THE HOUSE MINORITY LEADER, AND MARION SENATOR MARY LUNDBY MOVES FROM SENATE COLEADER TO MINORITY LEADER. SENATOR LUNDBY, REPRESENTATIVE RANTS, WELCOME BACK TO 'IOWA PRESS.'

Lundby: THANK YOU.

Borg: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO SAY LOYAL OPPOSITION OR NOT. WE'LL HAVE TO SEE AS WE GO ALONG IN THE CONVERSATION.

Rants: I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE ISSUE AND IT DEPENDS ON THE DAY.

Borg: ACROSS THE TABLE: 'DES MOINES REGISTER' POLITICAL COLUMNIST DAVID YEPSEN AND 'ASSOCIATED PRESS' SENIOR POLITICAL WRITER MIKE GLOVER.

Glover: REPRESENTATIVE RANTS, LET'S START WITH YOU. DEAN HAS KIND OF OUTLINED THE RESULTS OF WHAT HAPPENED ON NOVEMBER 7. WHAT HAPPENED?

Rants: I THINK A NUMBER OF FACTORS HAPPENED. ONE, I THINK IOWA REPUBLICANS GOT CAUGHT UP IN A WAVE LARGER THAN THEY COULD HANDLE. WE LOST A NUMBER OF RACES ON VERY, VERY CLOSE MARGINS. THERE WAS A RACE BY 98 VOTES IN WATERLOO/CEDAR FALLS. THERE WAS A RACE BY 200 VOTES OVER IN THE QUAD CITIES. ANOTHER ONE BY 200 VOTES IN COUNCIL BLUFFS. 1,400 VOTES IS WHAT COST US THE MAJORITY. OUT OF 430 VOTES THAT WERE CAST -- 430,000 VOTES CAST FOR HOUSE REPUBLICANS, WE NEEDED 432,000.

Glover: WAS IT AN ISSUE? WAS IT ORGANIZATIONAL? WAS IT -- WHAT WAS THE TIDE THAT WAS RUNNING?

Rants: I THINK PEOPLE -- I THINK PEOPLE MAKE A MISTAKE IF THEY LOOK AT JUST ONE FACTOR. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS. ONE, WE WERE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS DECIDEDLY ANTI-REPUBLICAN. YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT JUST IOWA WHERE YOU SAW A SHIFT OCCUR IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE. A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH SORT OF A NATIONAL ATTITUDE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN WASHINGTON, D.C. I THINK THE DEMOCRATS WERE VERY EFFECTIVE AT NATIONALIZING THE ELECTION WHILE REPUBLICANS FAILED TO LOCALIZE IT. THAT'S PART OF IT. YOU HAVE SPECIFIC ISSUES IN SPECIFIC RACES. WE HAD SOME CANDIDATES -- I'VE GOT A CANDIDATE, FOR INSTANCE, THAT DIDN'T GO OUT AND KNOCK ON DOORS LIKE HE REALLY SHOULD HAVE. HE HAPPENED TO LOSE THAT RACE. IF YOU DON'T PUT IN THE SHOE LEATHER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE VOTERS TO VOTE FOR YOU ON ELECTION DAY. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

Glover: SENATOR LUNDBY, YOU LOST FIVE SEATS IN THE SENATE. WHAT HAPPENED?

Lundby: FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S A TREND. WE LOST FIVE SEATS TWO YEARS AGO. WE LOST FIVE SEATS THIS TIME. WE'RE SEEING IOWA CHANGE AND WE'RE SEEING IOWANS LOOK AT GOVERNMENT IN A DIFFERENT EYE. I THINK THAT HAD A LOT MORE TO DO WITH IT THAN OUR CANDIDATES. OUR CANDIDATES WORKED HARD. WE RAISED A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WE GOT IT CAUGHT UP IN A NATIONAL TREND AS WELL. STATISTICALLY, IF I REMEMBER MY FIGURES CORRECTLY, NATIONALLY WE LOST 648 SEATS. REPUBLICANS LOST 648 HOUSE AND SENATE SEATS IN STATE LEGISLATURES. AND WE WENT FROM CONTROLLING 23 LEGISLATURES TO CONTROLLING 10. SO WE REALLY WERE CAUGHT IN A WAVE.

Yepsen: SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT MOST OF THIS, SENATOR, WAS JUST A DRAG THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND IRAQ PUT ON REPUBLICANS?

Lundby: I THINK THE TONE IN THE COUNTRY HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE DID GET CAUGHT UP IN THAT WAVE. AND SECONDLY, I THINK IOWANS TOOK A VERY CRITICAL EYE AND LOOKED AT CANDIDATES AND LOOKED AT THE NATIONAL PICTURE, LOOKED AT THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS COMING UP. AND I THINK WOMEN AND INDEPENDENTS WERE DISAPPOINTED IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Yepsen: MR. RANTS, DESPITE THE BAD TREND FOR REPUBLICANS, BILL NORTHEY WON THE RACE FOR SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE. YOU HAD TAMI WIENCEK WIN --

Rants: ABSOLUTELY.

Yepsen: -- BEAT A DEMOCRAT IN WATERLOO.

Rants: ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

Yepsen: SO WHAT DO THEY KNOW -- WHAT DID THEY DO THAT THE REST OF YOUR PARTY SHOULD HAVE DONE?

Rants: I THINK THERE'S SPECIFIC THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN SPECIFIC RACES. FOR INSTANCE, WITH BILL NORTHEY I THINK YOU HAD THE REVELATIONS AT THE END OF HIS CAMPAIGN ABOUT HIS OPPONENT AND THE CATTLE PROBLEM THAT SHE HAD THAT I THINK INFLUENCED A LOT OF FOLKS, ANIMAL ABUSE. IN TAMI WIENCEK'S RACE, WE KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING WE HAD THE RIGHT CANDIDATE AND THAT REPRESENTATIVE SHOULTZ'S TIME HAD SORT OF COME. HE'D OUTLIVED HIS TIME IN THE LEGISLATURE. AND WE HAD SOME SPECIFIC PROBLEMS WITH SOME SPECIFIC CANDIDATES WHERE WE LOST. YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT IT AS A NATIONAL TREND. THE FACT THAT THERE IS NATIONAL TREND, IT'S MORE THAN JUST BUSH AND IRAQ. I MEAN REPUBLICANS HAVE TO OWN UP TO THE FACT THAT A LOT OF REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN WASHINGTON, D.C., LOST THEIR WAY ON ISSUES OF SPENDING, ON ISSUES OF ETHICS AND THE SCANDALS THAT BROKE. WE'VE GOT SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHAPE UP IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR HOUSE IN ORDER.

Glover: SENATOR LUNDBY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, ONE OF THE FIRST RESPONSIBILITIES OF ANY LEGISLATIVE LEADER IS TO ELECT MEMBERS OF HIS OR HER POLITICAL PARTY TO THE LEGISLATURE.

Lundby: CORRECT.

Glover: YOU LOST FIVE SEATS IN 2004. YOU LOST FIVE SEATS IN 2006. WHY ARE YOU STILL THE LEADER?

Lundby: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WASN'T LEADER IN '04.

Glover: THAT'S CORRECT.

Lundby: I CAME IN VERY LATE IN '06. AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING CRITICAL, BUT I DIDN'T RECRUIT THE CANDIDATES THAT I THOUGHT FIT THE DISTRICTS. I THINK THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PIECE. AND WE TRIED TO GUIDE THE CANDIDATES TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES WE THOUGHT WERE PERTINENT TO IOWA. AND IN SOME RESPECTS, OUR CANDIDATES FELT STRONGER ABOUT THEIR VALUES ISSUES THAN THEY FELT ABOUT ISSUES THAT ALL OF IOWANS THINK ABOUT, AND WE STRUGGLED WITH THAT THROUGH THE CAMPAIGN.

Glover: REPRESENTATIVE RANTS, SAME QUESTION TO YOU. YOU WERE SPEAKER FOR A GOOD LONG TIME. YOU WERE THE MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR RECRUITING AND RUNNING REPUBLICAN LEGISLATIVE CANDIDATES, AND YOU LOST. WHY ARE YOU STILL THE LEADER?

Rants: I GUESS YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES THAT. I RAN FOR IT, THOUGH, BECAUSE I STILL BELIEVE, AND I BELIEVE THIS OF THE ELECTION DAY, THAT IOWANS DIDN'T REPUDIATE THE AGENDA WE RAN ON. WE HAD SOME CANDIDATES THAT DID NOT WIN, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IOWANS REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY BARGAINED FOR WHEN THEY CAST THEIR VOTES. THIS NOTION NOW THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE THE TRIFECTA AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE COMING UP IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AREN'T NECESSARILY THE THINGS THAT IOWANS THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE ELECTING.

Yepsen: WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES IN A MINUTE BUT, SENATOR LUNDBY, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS QUESTION OF YOUR ROLE. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MANAGE THE CONSERVATIVES IN YOUR PARTY? I MEAN RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION, YOU HAD A, I CALL IT AN ATTEMPTED COUP, IF YOU WILL, AMONG A GROUP OF CONSERVATIVES IN THE SENATE -- REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WHO THINK YOU ARE TOO MODERATE AND MADE MISCALCULATIONS IN THE WAY YOU ALLOCATED CAMPAIGN RESOURCES. SPECIFICALLY, YOU DID NOT SEND ENOUGH MONEY TO PEOPLE LIKE JULIAN GARRETT, AND INSTEAD WERE GIVING IT TO OTHER WOMEN CANDIDATES WHO HAD HOPELESS RACES. SO HOW DO YOU ANSWER THOSE CONSERVATIVES INSIDE YOUR OWN CAUCUS WHO ARE NOT HAPPY WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP?

Lundby: UMM, I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF THAT, DAVID, BECAUSE MANY OF THEIR CRITICISMS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP AND SHARED WITH PEOPLE WERE NOT THE TRUTH. AND SO IN ORDER TO START OUT AS A CAUCUS OF 20, WE'RE NOT GOING TO REHASH THE CONCERNS THAT THE 8 PEOPLE WHO LEFT CAUCUS HAVE. THEY CAN SHARE THEM WITH ME. WE'LL TALK THEM OVER. WE'LL PROVIDE OUR SIDE. BUT THEY CAME BACK TO CAUCUS ON DECEMBER 15. WE HAD A VERY GOOD, CONSTRUCTIVE CAUCUS. ALL EIGHT WERE PARTICIPANTS AND HELPED US, AND THAT'S THE PATH WE'RE GOING DOWN.

Yepsen: SO YOU'RE UNIFIED NOW?

Lundby: I THINK WE'RE UNIFIED. ARE WE ALL AGREEABLE ON EVERY SINGLE ISSUE? NOT YET. BUT ARE WE UNIFIED AS A CAUCUS WHO HAS AN AGENDA, WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT TAX POLICY AND ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY THAT'S PRAGMATIC AND FAIR, AND WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT A CONTAINED GOVERNMENT AND LESS SPENDING? WE ARE UNITED ON THAT.

Glover: REPRESENTATIVE RANTS, YOU'RE NOW IN THE MINORITY AFTER A DECADE OR SO OF RUNNING THE SHOW IN THE HOUSE. HOW DO YOU VIEW THE ROLE OF REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE IN THIS SESSION THAT BEGINS ON MONDAY?

Rants: I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE DAY AND ON THE ISSUE. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH FOUR DIFFERENT MINORITY LEADERS OPERATE. I THINK I'VE LEARNED A THING OR TWO FROM EACH ONE OF THEM. WE'LL SEE WHICH ONE COMES TO PLAY ON WHICH DAY. THERE IS A TIME FOR REPUBLICANS TO TRULY ACT, AS DEAN SUGGESTED, AS THE LOYAL OPPOSITION. I MEAN THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE COMMON GROUND ON. WE'LL BRING OUR SUGGESTIONS, OUR CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM ON THINGS LIKE PROPERTY TAXES OR SMALL GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE POOLING. THERE'S A TIME WHERE REPUBLICANS MAY DECIDE TO JUST HAND THE DEMOCRATS MORE ROPE IF WE THINK THEY'RE FASHIONING THE WRONG NOOSE. THAT WILL BE A LITTLE TOUGHER FOR SOME OF OUR FOLKS TO FIGURE OUT THAT THAT'S THE PROPER THING TO DO. THERE'S ALSO A TIME, THOUGH, WHEN YOU DON'T JUST DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND. YOU DIG A TRENCH. AND THERE WILL BE TIMES FOR THAT AS WELL. WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE THAT WE HAVE TO STILL RESPOND TO OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO EXPECT US TO GOVERN. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING THAN IT HAS IN THE PAST TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

Glover: SENATOR LUNDBY, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. YOU'RE NOW IN A 30 TO 20 MINORITY IN THE SENATE. HOW DO YOU VIEW YOUR ROLE AS THE LOYAL OPPOSITION? AS THE NOISE MAKER? AS WHAT?

Lundby: I SEE OUR CAUCUS AS HAVING THE SAME JOB TO DO THEY HAD BEFORE. LESS CAPACITY FOR POWER MAYBE. LESS CAPACITY FOR DECISION MAKING, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY PARTY MAKES A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS, BUT WE STILL HAVE A JOB TO DO. WE ARE STILL ELECTED BY THE SAME NUMBER OF IOWANS THAT ANY OTHER SENATOR IS ELECTED. WE STILL HAVE TO POINT OUT AND WORK ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PARTY. THE DEMOCRATS, WHEN I LOOK OVER CAMPAIGN MATERIAL, PLEDGED -- WITH WHAT WE OWED FROM LAST YEAR, PLEDGED ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS IN SPENDING. A DOLLAR CIGARETTE TAX WON'T GET US TO A BILLION DOLLARS IN SPENDING; $300 MILLION IN THE LEFTOVERS FROM LAST YEAR AND THE NEW REVENUE FOR THIS YEAR WON'T COVER THE BILLION DOLLARS. WE KNOW WHAT THEY'VE PROMISED. WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM ABOUT THOSE PROMISES AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY, STAYING WITH POLITICS FOR A MOMENT, HOW SOON CAN REPUBLICANS GET THE MAJORITY BACK? AND SECONDLY, WHAT ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET IT BACK?

Lundby: I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE -- GET OUR STORY TO IOWANS AS WE GO THROUGH SESSION, AND WE HAVE TO GET OUR STORY TO IOWANS ABOUT THE PROMISES THAT WERE MADE AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE KEPT. I THINK THAT WILL BE A VERY IMPORTANT JOB FOR US TO DO.

Yepsen: REALISTICALLY, CAN YOU DO THAT IN 2008?

Lundby: I THINK 2008 WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT, VERY DIFFICULT. AND REPUBLICANS SOMETIMES DON'T LIKE HONESTY -- NOT REPUBLICANS BUT JUST US PEOPLE IN POLITICS. [ LAUGHTER ] I DON'T WANT TO PAINT ALL REPUBLICANS WITH THE SAME BRUSH, BUT SOMETIMES US PEOPLE CLOSE IN POLITICS DON'T LIKE IT PUT RIGHT IN OUR FACE.

Glover: REPRESENTATIVE RANTS, WHAT'S THE TRUTH IN REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE?

Rants: WE BELIEVE IN TRUTH IN THE HOUSE. THE FACT IS I THINK 2008 IS DOABLE. IS IT DIFFICULT? OF COURSE IT IS. BUT THE FACT WHEN REPUBLICANS TOOK CONTROL BACK IN 1992, WE OVERCAME THE SAME SORT OF ODDS. I THINK THE LANDSCAPE WILL BECOME CLEAR NEXT JANUARY WHEN WE REALLY SEE HOW MANY RETIREMENTS ARE OUT THERE. THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A SHIFT IN POWER IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, THERE WAS A MASSIVE EXODUS. IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE '94 ELECTION, THERE WERE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS AS WELL AS A LOT OF DEMOCRATS THAT HAD LEFT OF THE CHAMBER AFTER A SWITCH IN POWER. THAT MAY HAPPEN AGAIN. AND THE NUMBER OF OPEN SEATS WILL DICTATE SOME OF THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT BEING IN THE MAJORITY IS GOING TO BE ALL IT'S CRACKED UP TO BE FOR SOME OF THE DEMOCRATS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY FIND THEMSELVES HAVING TO MAKE SOME TOUGH BUDGET DECISIONS THAT THEY'RE UNACCUSTOMED TO MAKING.

Yepsen: BUT SENATOR --

Borg: IS IT A TIGHT ROPE FOR YOU TOO, THOUGH, BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY POPULIST ITEMS UP BY THE DEMOCRATS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF POPULAR APPEAL, AND THE PERCEPTION COULD BE REPUBLICAN OBSTRUCTIONISTS?

Rants: YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT IS A TIGHT ROPE. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. PEOPLE STILL EXPECT US TO GOVERN, AND THE LAST THING THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS TO SEE IS GRIDLOCK. SO, YES, IT'S DANGEROUS FOR REPUBLICANS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO APPEAR THAT WE'RE JUST THROWING UP WALLS AT EVERYTHING WE SEE. AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME AREAS OF COMMON GROUND. BUT THERE ARE CLEARLY SOME AREAS WHERE THE DEMOCRATS I BELIEVE ARE OVERPLAYING THEIR HAND, AND THEY HAVE NO MANDATE FOR THE AGENDA THAT THEY'RE PURSUING. THE WEEK AFTER THE ELECTION, YOU HAD KEVIN MCCARTHY AND PAT MURPHY ON THIS PANEL, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT FAIR SHARE, WHICH IS THEIR VERSION OF REPEALING IOWA'S RIGHT TO WORK LAW. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE IOWA PUBLIC GAVE THEM A MANDATE TO DO BACK IN NOVEMBER. IT WASN'T ON A TV AD, A RADIO AD, A BROCHURE, NOTHING. YET THAT'S PART OF THEIR AGENDA NOW, AND IF THEY PURSUE THAT, REPUBLICANS CAN OBJECT TO THAT AND FIGHT THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A MANDATE FOR IT.

Yepsen: WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING AT THE NEXT SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE. AND AS DEAN MENTIONED, WHILE YOU GUYS AREN'T SETTING THE AGENDA THIS SESSION, YOU ARE PRETTY GOOD VOTE COUNTERS AND HANDICAPPERS. SO I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE PROSPECTS FOR SOME LEGISLATION. CIGARETTE TAX --

Lundby: THE ONES THEY TALKED ABOUT DURING THE CAMPAIGN, OR THE ONES THEY'VE ABANDONED SINCE THE CAMPAIGN?

Yepsen: WELL, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE OF BOTH, SENATOR.

Lundby: A LITTLE OF BOTH, ALL RIGHT.

Yepsen: FEEL FREE TO BRING ANY UP YOU WANT.

Lundby: I WILL, THANKS.

Yepsen: THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT THE CIGARETTE TAX. THE GOVERNOR-ELECT CAMPAIGNED ON THIS. WILL THIS LEGISLATURE RAISE THE CIGARETTE TAX?

Lundby: WELL, THE SENATE HAS ALREADY PASSED AN INCREASE IN THE CIGARETTE TAX, 36 CENTS A COUPLE YEARS AGO. WE DESIGNATED THAT TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND TO SOME SENIOR LIVING TRUST FUND ISSUES. I THINK THE SENATE -- THE SENATE WILL TAKE A VERY CAREFUL LOOK AT THE CIGARETTE TAX, AND I THINK -- I THINK THAT IT'S VERY POSSIBLE IT WILL PASS AGAIN IN THE SENATE.

Rants: THAT WILL BE -- THAT WILL BE THE FIRST PROMISE THEY BREAK. THEY SAID BEFORE THE ELECTION THEY WEREN'T GOING TO RAISE IT: MONEY IS COMING IN; WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY; WE DON'T NEED IT. THEY WILL BREAK THAT PROMISE AND THEY WILL RAISE THE CIGARETTE TAX.

Glover: NOW, REPRESENTATIVE RANTS, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S FACED THE LEGISLATURE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IS LOCAL CONTROL OF LIVESTOCK CONFINEMENT FEEDING OPERATIONS. THERE WILL BE A PUSH TO ALLOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO CONTROL WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, HOW THEY'RE LOCATED, AND SO FORTH. WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF THAT?

Rants: I DON'T THINK THEY'LL PASS LOCAL CONTROL, WHICH WILL DISAPPOINT A LOT OF THEIR CORE CONSTITUENCY. A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WENT TO VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS THOUGHT THEY WERE VOTING TO PASS LOCAL CONTROL. I DON'T THINK THEY'LL ACTUALLY DO IT, WHICH WILL CAUSE SOME HEARTBURN WITHIN CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THEIR OWN PARTY. THEY WILL PROBABLY LOOK AT -- AND THEY'LL FIND SOME SUPPORT FOR LOOKING AT DISTANCES, DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE MATRIX AGAIN, ARE THERE SOME THINGS WE NEED TO DO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WATERSHEDS, BUT THEY WON'T GO FOR LOCAL CONTROL.

Glover: SENATOR LUNDBY, IF LOCAL CONTROL DOESN'T PASS, DO YOU DO OTHER THINGS WITH SITING OF LIVESTOCK FACILITIES LIKE SITE DISTANCES AND THAT SORT OF STUFF? IS THERE ANYTHING AT ALL --

Lundby: I THINK THRESHOLDS AND SITE DISTANCES AND ALSO THE ABILITY TO CARVE OUT SPECIAL AREAS IN IOWA FOR SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR HOG CONFINEMENT, OR CAFO, I THINK WE'LL DO, YES.

Glover: SENATOR -- GOVERNOR CULVER HAS REPLACED THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES. JEFF VONK IS OUT. COULD HE HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED?

Lundby: WELL, HE WAS JUST CONFIRMED LAST JANUARY. HE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO BE RECONFIRMED. IF THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T ACCEPT HIS RESIGNATION, HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE CONFIRMED.

Glover: ARE YOU GLAD HE ACCEPTED HIS RESIGNATION?

Lundby: NO, I'M A SUPPORTER OF MR. VONK. I THOUGHT HE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB AS DIRECTOR. I THOUGHT HE WAS BOLD WHERE HE NEEDED TO BE BOLD, AND I THOUGHT HE WAS RESPECTFUL OF THE LEGISLATURE. AND ONE LAST THING THAT I ADMIRED GREATLY, AND THAT IS WHENEVER I HAD A CONSTITUENT CALL, NO MATTER WHO IT WAS, HE WOULD COME AND MEET WITH THAT CONSTITUENT AND IT DIDN'T MATTER WHERE IT WAS IN IOWA. I HOPE WE GET THE SAME FROM MR. LEOPOLD, AND I THINK WE WILL.

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY, SPEAKING OF LOCAL CONTROL AND SMOKING, THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE AN ISSUE IN THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT LETTING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SET STRONGER ANTI-SMOKING LAWS, RESOLUTIONS, CITY AND COUNTY ORDINANCES. WILL THAT PASS?

Lundby: YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT FOR SURE IN THE SENATE. IF I HAD -- I'M NOT A BIG PROPONENT OF THAT. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK IN A PLACE WITH CIGARETTES, DON'T WORK THERE. AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN A RESTAURANT WITH CIGARETTE SMOKING, DON'T GO THERE. SO I'M MORE FOR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WE HAVEN'T -- WE HAVEN'T SURVEYED OUR CAUCUS ON THAT ISSUE YET.

Yepsen: MR. RANTS, THE SAME QUESTION, PREEMPTION.

Rants: IT WILL COME UP FOR DEBATE. I MEAN JANET PETERSEN WHO IS NOW THE CHAIR OF THE COMMERCE COMMITTEE HAS INTRODUCED THAT LEGISLATION IN THE PAST. SHE'LL BRING IT OUT OF COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE. AND UNDERSTAND, I DON'T FAVOR A BAN. I TOO BELIEVE -- ACTUALLY IT'S THE CHOICE OF THE RETAILER WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO HAVE SMOKING IN THEIR ESTABLISHMENT OR NOT. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S A LITTLE INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST FOR THE FOLKS WHO FAVOR A BAN TO SAY, WELL, IT'S OKAY TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE EXPOSED TO SECONDHAND SMOKE BUT NOT OKAY FOR THESE FOLKS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO PURSUE A BAN, DO IT STATEWIDE. DON'T HAVE IT SMOKING AVAILABLE IN, YOU KNOW, DES MOINES BUT NOT WEST DES MOINES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST DO IT STATEWIDE OR DON'T DO IT AT ALL.

Yepsen: AND THE GAS TAX... THE D.O.T. AND THE ROAD LOBBY IS STARTING TO BEAT THE GONG FOR AN INCREASE IN THE GASOLINE TAX. MR. RANTS, WILL THAT HAPPEN?

Rants: I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN?

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY?

Lundby: I THINK WHEN YOU -- I THINK WHEN YOU'RE ELECTED, WHETHER YOU'RE A MINORITY OR MAJORITY, YOU HAVE CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITIES TO LOOK AT ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO IOWA. IT'S BEEN SINCE 1989 SINCE WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE -- INCREASE IN GAS TAX, AND YET WE HAVE MORE CARS, WE TRAVEL MORE TIME, AND THE FORMULA IS COMPLETELY OUT OF WHACK. WE PAY MONEY WHERE THERE AREN'T PEOPLE, AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE FORMULA. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE FORMULA, THEN YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE OPTION OPEN FOR THE GOOD OF IOWA'S ROADWAYS AND FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL NETWORK TO AT LEAST TAKE A LOOK. TO SAY WE'RE AGAINST IT BECAUSE WE'RE REPUBLICANS, I THINK IS FOOLISH.

Borg: WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE FORMULA FOR ALLOCATING FOR THAT REVENUE THOUGH --

Lundby: FOR ALLOCATING, YES.

Borg: -- IS WHERE THE ROADS GET THE MONEY.

Glover: REPRESENTATIVE RANTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOVERNOR-ELECT CULVER ARGUES IS: LOOK, WE HAD AN ELECTION NOVEMBER 7; I WON 61 COUNTIES BY 100,000 VOTES; HERE'S WHAT I CAMPAIGNED ON; AND THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO. ONE OF THE THINGS HE CAMPAIGNED ON WAS A $100,000-MILLION POWER IOWA FUND. HE'S ARGUING HE'S GOT A MANDATE FROM VOTERS TO DO THAT. WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT IN THE LEGISLATURE?

Rants: I THINK HE -- IT WILL DEPEND ON HOW HE FLUSHES THAT OUT. BOTH PARTIES CAMPAIGNED ON THE ISSUE OF ALTERNATIVE AND RENEWABLE FUELS, AND I THINK YOU WILL SEE US CONTINUE TO DO THAT WORK. BUT WHAT IS MAGICAL ABOUT $100,000 MILLION, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE, NOR DO I REALLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE HE WANTS TO PUT THAT. WE KNOW THERE ARE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT NEED ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT. WE KNOW THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF ALTERNATIVE FUELS AND RENEWABLE FUELS, THAT TAKES RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. WE KNOW THAT IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY IS IN THE RUNNING FOR THAT HALF A BILLION DOLLAR BP-AMOCO GRANT, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A $25-MILLION INVESTMENT IN A NEW BUILDING UP THERE TO HOUSE THE SCIENTISTS AND THE RESEARCH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE KNOW THERE'S A LEGITIMATE NEED FOR AT LEAST $25 MILLION. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER 75 OR EVEN WHERE HE WANTS TO SPEND IT. I THINK YOU'LL SEE MORE INVESTMENT, BUT WE OUGHT NOT TO GET HUNG UP ON, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER THAT WAS PICKED OUT OF THE AIR DURING THE CAMPAIGN. WE NEED TO SEE SPECIFIC DETAILS AND HAVE SPECIFIC PURPOSES FOR THAT MONEY.

Glover: SENATOR LUNDBY, ON A LARGER ISSUE, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT ARGUMENT THAT I HEARD THE GOVERNOR-ELECT MAKE JUST THAT WEEK: I WON 61 COUNTIES BY 100,000 VOTES, AND I CAMPAIGNED ON THIS; IT OUGHT TO PASS THE LEGISLATURE. HOW DO YOU COUNTER THAT?

Lundby: I THINK WE TAKE THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGETS AND THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSALS INTO CONSIDERATION EVERY YEAR. EVEN WHEN WE HAD A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR AND A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE, HOUSE AND SENATE, WE STILL -- YOU STILL TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THE DEMOCRATS TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE PROPOSALS. THAT'S COURTESY. THAT'S RESPECT FOR THE OFFICE. THAT'S RESPECT FOR THE GOVERNOR'S MARGIN IN THE ELECTION. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO APPLY OUR PHILOSOPHY AND OUR VISION AND OUR GOALS FOR IOWA AS REPUBLICANS. AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT WITH A CRITICAL EYE AND WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO PUT OUR IDEAS FORTH AND TAKE THAT BATTLE ON. WE HAVE TO.

Yepsen: ANOTHER ISSUE THAT HE TALKED ABOUT, REPUBLICANS TALKED ABOUT, DEMOCRATS TALKED ABOUT, EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES. BUT NOTHING EVER SEEMS TO HAPPEN. SENATOR LUNDBY, IS THIS THE SESSION THAT LOWERS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES IN IOWA?

Lundby: IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT PROPERTY TAXES, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM ALL. YOU CANNOT PICK OUT COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT IT, DAVID, IN THE PAST ABOUT THAT BALLOON OR WHATEVER AND YOU BLOW IT UP AND IF YOU COMPRESS IT ONE PLACE, IT COMES OUT ANOTHER PLACE. PROPERTY TAXES IS EXACTLY THAT. SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE PROMISES ABOUT COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIALS AND YOU WANT TO HAVE A LIGHTWEIGHT TASK FORCE OF A FEW WEEKS AND THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANY SIGNIFICANT POLICY OUT OF THAT, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

Yepsen: MR. RANTS, WHAT'S YOUR VIEW?

Rants: I -- (A) I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL ACTUALLY PASS SOMETHING THAT WILL IMPACT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES, BUT IT WILL BE TO THE DETRIMENT OF RESIDENTAL HOMEOWNERS. YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS. THE FIRST OPTION, WHICH IS LIMITING THE GROWTH OF PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH WE PASSED, MIKE GRONSTAL AND THE SENATE DEMOCRATS REJECTED, SO I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WILL EMBARK ON THAT; TWO, YOU CAN BUY DOWN COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES BY SPENDING STATE RESOURCES. THEY'VE GOT TOO MANY OTHER COMMITMENTS OF WHERE THEY WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY, SO THAT WON'T HAPPEN. THAT LEAVES YOU THREE, AND THAT'S SHIFTING BETWEEN THE CLASSIFICATIONS. AND IF IT IS FREEZING THE ROLLBACK OR, AS MIKE HAS SUGGESTED -- MIKE GRONSTAL HAS SUGGESTED, DECOUPLING AG AND RESIDENTAL, YOU'RE GOING TO SHIFT THE BURDEN FROM COMMERCIAL OWNERS. SO, YES, I THINK THEY'LL DO SOMETHING, BUT I THINK IT WILL BE TO THE DETRIMENT OF OTHER PROPERTY TAXPAYERS.

Glover: SENATOR LUNDBY, A TWO-PART QUESTION ON LABOR ISSUES, WHICH REPRESENTATIVE RANTS RAISED EARLIER. IT'S THE FAIR SHARE, WHICH IS IF YOU'RE REPRESENTED BY A LABOR ORGANIZATION AND THEY ADVOCATE FOR YOU, YOU SHOULD PAY DUES EVEN IF YOU DON'T BELONG. AND THE SECOND IS AN INCREASE IN THE MINIMUM WAGE. WILL ANYTHING HAPPEN ON FAIR SHARE, AND WILL THE MINIMUM WAGE GO UP THIS YEAR?

Lundby: MINIMUM WAGE WILL GO UP THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE 30 IN THE SENATE AND THEY HAVE 54 IN THE HOUSE. SO MINIMUM WAGE WILL GO UP. THEY MADE THE PROMISE. THEY'LL KEEP THE PROMISE. AND REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE AREN'T GOING TO BE NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THAT. WE WILL BE PROVIDING SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT WE THINK WILL BETTER -- WILL BETTER WORK OR WILL BETTER WORK WITH MINIMUM WAGE.

Glover: AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WILL THE VOTE BE?

Lundby: I'D SAY PROBABLY 42 OR 43.

Glover: OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE RANTS, SAME QUESTION TO YOU. FAIR SHARE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER -- IT WILL COME UP -- AND MINIMUM WAGE.

Rants: I THINK MINIMUM WAGE PASSES AND IT WILL PASS IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS AND THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A BIG FIGHT ABOUT THAT. THE BATTLE IS ON REPEAL OF RIGHT TO WORK. LET'S CALL IT FOR WHAT IT IS. THEY'RE CALLING IT FAIR SHARE, BUT WHEN YOU FORCE PEOPLE TO PAY UNION DUES, YOU'RE GOING TO LEGISLATE FORCED UNIONISM. PEOPLE OUGHT TO HAVE THE FREEDOM, I MEAN, TO CHOOSE WHETHER THEY WANT TO BELONG TO AN ORGANIZATION OR NOT. IF THE UNIONS DON'T WANT TO REPRESENT THOSE FOLKS, THEN THEY CAN HAVE A MEMBERS ONLY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

Glover: I UNDERSTAND -- I UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEWS ON THE ISSUE.

Rants: -- BUT THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DO THAT. BUT, MIKE, THIS IS A --

Glover: BUT WHAT HAPPENS --

Rants: THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THE STATE AND FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE SINGLE WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN TO IOWA'S BUSINESS CLIMATE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO DIG THAT TRENCH AND WE WILL FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL --

Glover: WHAT HAPPENS WITH IT?

Rants: WE WILL FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING.

Glover: WHAT HAPPENS WITH IT?

Rants: I'M GOING TO STOP IT.

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY, WHAT HAPPENS TO FAIR SHARE IN THIS THING?

Lundby: THERE'S NOT SUPPORT IN THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS FOR FAIR SHARE, BUT ONE CAVEAT I WANT TO -- SINCE IOWANS WATCH THIS PROGRAM, ONE CAVEAT I THINK I WANT IOWANS AND UNION MEMBERS TO KNOW IS THAT THEIR HIERARCHY THINKS THIS IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING. BUT YOU TAKE A UNION LIKE AMANA REFRIGERATION WHERE ONLY 30 PERCENT ARE MEMBERS AND YOU OFFER THEM AN ALTERNATIVE, THAT UNION WILL BE DECERTIFIED SO QUICKLY. I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T THINK THE HIERARCHY UNDERSTANDS THE DEPTH OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF FAIR SHARE.

Yepsen: MR. RANTS, WE'VE ONLY GOT A MINUTE LEFT. AND I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF LOOK INTO YOUR CRYSTAL BALL A LITTLE BIT AND SAY WHAT ISSUE IS GOING TO SMACK THIS LEGISLATURE UPSIDE THE HEAD? IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY SESSION SOMETHING COMES AT YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T EXPECT. TOUCH PLAY IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. ARE THERE ISSUES OUT THERE THAT YOU SEE BOILING THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER THIS SESSION OR HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE SESSION?

Rants: THAT IS TOUGH FOR ME TO PREDICT. THE ONE THAT I THINK -- AND THAT'S WHY I KEEP TALKING SO MUCH ABOUT IT -- IS THIS ISSUE OF REPEALING RIGHT TO WORK. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAMPAIGNED ON. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC VOTED OR ELECTED PEOPLE TO DO, BUT IT'S ONE THAT SUDDENLY GOT LET OUT OF THE BAG, FRANKLY ON THIS PROGRAM, THAT I THINK WILL DOMINATE A LOT OF TALK.

Yepsen: SENATOR LUNDBY, WHAT SURPRISE ISSUES?

Lundby: I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES. I THINK WE'LL HAVE A SERIOUS GAMBLING DEBATE AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THE GAMBLING FACILITIES ARE DOING AS WELL AS THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST AND ADDITIONAL COMMUNITIES WANT IT AND THEY WANT IT NOW. I THINK THAT THE TOUCH PLAY QUESTION MAY COME BACK. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER IN THE ELECTION CYCLE. I THINK IT WILL BE BACK. I THINK IT WILL BE BACK. AND THIRD, BUT NOT THE LEAST OF THE THREE, THERE WERE A LOT OF PROMISES MADE TO IOWANS WHO CARE ABOUT WATER QUALITY AND WHO CARE ABOUT THIS ENVIRONMENT. AND THEY QUICKLY -- THE DEMOCRATS QUICKLY RETREATED FROM THOSE PROMISES AND I THINK THEY WILL BE BACK AND I THINK IT WILL BE THE GROUNDSWELL THAT WE SAW WITH TOUCH PLAY.

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