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Reporters' Roundtable

posted on June 22, 2007

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Yepsen: THE SUMMER CAMPAIGN SEASON IS HERE, AND THE TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO PICK UP OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. WE DISCUSS THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL RACE WITH OUR TEAM OF POLITICAL REPORTERS ON THIS EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS.'

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ON STATEWIDE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION, THIS IS THE FRIDAY, JUNE 22 EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS.' HERE IS DAVID YEPSEN.

Yepsen: AS THE 2008 PRECAUCUS CAMPAIGNING CONTINUES ACROSS IOWA, THE SPOTLIGHT HAS BEEN ON THE REPUBLICANS, WHERE EYEBROWS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE GOP STRAW POLL SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 11 IN AMES. NOW, TWO TOP-TIER CANDIDATES, SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN OF ARIZONA AND FORMER NEW YORK MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, HAVE INDICATED THEY ARE NOT PARTICIPATING. THAT LEAVES THE DOOR OPEN FOR FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR MITT ROMNEY, WHO CARRIES A SLIGHT LEAD IN THE IOWA POLLS, AND FOR FORMER TENNESSEE SENATOR FRED THOMPSON, WHO SHOWS INCREASINGLY STRONG SUPPORT BUT REMAINS UNDECLARED. MEANTIME AMONG DEMOCRATS, RECENT POLLS FIND FORMER NORTH CAROLINA SENATOR JOHN EDWARDS AND SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON OF NEW YORK TIED FOR THE LEAD IN IOWA, WITH BARACK OBAMA OF ILLINOIS IN THIRD PLACE. WELL, CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT IS ON THE TABLE TODAY. JOINING US ARE TODD DORMAN, CAPITAL BUREAU CHIEF WITH 'THE LEE NEWSPAPERS,' AND KAY HENDERSON, NEWS DIRECTOR WITH 'RADIO IOWA.' ALSO WITH US ARE MIKE GLOVER, SENIOR POLITICAL AND LEGISLATIVE REPORTER WITH THE 'ASSOCIATED PRESS,' AND JOYCE RUSSELL, IOWA STATEHOUSE REPORTER WITH 'WOI' AND THE 'IOWA PUBLIC RADIO' NETWORK. WELL, JOYCE, LET'S OPEN WITH THE REPUBLICANS. WHAT ISSUES -- WHAT FACTORS DO YOU SEE AT WORK IN THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS FIGHT HERE IN IOWA?

Russell: NAME RECOGNITION IS AN ISSUE, WITH SOME CANDIDATES STRUGGLING JUST TO BECOME BETTER KNOWN. IMMIGRATION HAS TURNED OUT TO BE A BIG ISSUE IN THE REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN, AND YOU HAVE A WIDE RANGE OF VIEWS ON THAT IMMIGRATION ISSUE. ON ONE SIDE YOU HAVE JOHN MCCAIN, WHO ACTUALLY HAD BEEN A KEY SPONSOR OF A CONTROVERSIAL IMMIGRATION BILL IN THE SENATE. AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES, SAM BROWNBACK, FOR EXAMPLE, OF KANSAS, STRONGLY OPPOSED TO MUCH THAT'S IN THAT IMMIGRATION BILL.

Glover: I THINK, DAVID, ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT'S AT WORK HERE IS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE AS SUCH, BUT I THINK A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE LOOKING TO SEE WHO CAN WIN THIS THING. THEY WANT TO HOLD THE WHITE HOUSE. THEY'VE LEARNED THE VALUE OF HAVING THE WHITE HOUSE, AND THEY WANT TO KEEP IT. THAT'S WHY I THINK RUDY GIULIANI IS RUNNING AS STRONG AS HE IS. I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO I CONSIDER RELATIVELY MODERATE TO CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS WHO SAY WE'VE GOT TO THINK BEYOND THE PRIMARY, WE'VE GOT TO THINK TO THE GENERAL ELECTION. WHO CAN BEAT HILLARY CLINTON, WHO THEY ASSUME THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE WILL BE? A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE RUDY GIULIANI AS THAT PERSON, EVEN THOUGH HE'S PRO CHOICE, PRO GAY RIGHTS, PRO GUN CONTROL, ALL THINGS THAT SCRAPE WITH THE REPUBLICAN BASE. BUT AT THIS POINT A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE HIM AS THE WINNER.

Yepsen: IT'S ALL ABOUT ELECTABILITY. KAY, WHAT DO YOU -- WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THIS RACE?

Henderson: I DO SEE A PRAGMATIC FLAVOR TO THE CHOICE THAT REPUBLICANS ARE MAKING. THE OTHER THING THAT I SEE IS THAT THERE'S A THIRST FOR SOMEONE ELSE. THERE WAS A HUGE EVENT THIS SPRING AT WHICH ALL OF THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES WERE ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO A GROUP OF REPUBLICANS, ABOUT A THOUSAND OF THEM, AND THE RESPONSE TO MOST OF THEM WAS NOT VERY FERVENT. I THINK THEY'RE STILL LOOKING FOR SOMEONE. THAT'S WHERE I THINK FRED THOMPSON REALLY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY IF HE COMES HERE, BRINGS THAT RED TRUCK OF HIS HERE, DRIVES AROUND, CAMPAIGNS. I THINK HE CAN MAKE A HUGE SPLASH IN IOWA IF HE INDEED DOES COME HERE TO CAMPAIGN.

Yepsen: TODD, HOW DO YOU SEE THE RACE?

Dorman: WELL, LIKE MIKE SAID, THERE IS A SEGMENT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT'S WORRIED ABOUT WHO THEY CAN NOMINATE THAT CAN WIN. BUT THERE'S ALSO A SIZABLE SEGMENT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY BEEN TRYING TO DISQUALIFY CANDIDATES BASED ON THEIR STANDS ON KIND OF SOME HOT-BUTTON ISSUES. THERE'S FOLKS WHO SAY RUDY GIULIANI SHOULDN'T BE THE NOMINEE BECAUSE HE'S PRO CHOICE, AS MIKE SAID PRO GAY RIGHTS, PRO GUN CONTROL. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF ATTACKS EVEN ON MITT ROMNEY, WHO SEEMS TO BE THE EMERGING FRONT-RUNNER IN THE STATE, BECAUSE HE MAY HAVE NOT HAD THE RIGHT STANCE ON ABORTION HIS ENTIRE POLITICAL CAREER. AS JOYCE SAID, JOHN MCCAIN IS TAKING A BEATING ON IMMIGRATION. SO THERE'S ALSO THE SENSE THAT -- THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR -- THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING HARD AT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING AND TRYING -- AND THE CONSERVATIVE BASE IS TRYING TO KIND OF -- IS DISPATCHING THOSE THAT AREN'T TRUE BELIEVERS, DON'T PASS THE LITMUS TEST --

Glover: AND KAY HIT ON A GOOD POINT, I THINK, WITH FRED THOMPSON. EVERY POLL I'VE SEEN -- AND THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF THEM -- HAVE SHOWN THAT FRED THOMPSON, WHO IS NOT IN THE RACE, IS NOT ACTIVELY CAMPAIGNING, IS RANKED IN THE TOP TIER OF REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES EVEN THOUGH HE HASN'T DONE A THING TO TRY TO GET THE NOMINEE. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? THAT TELLS YOU THAT A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE FIELD THEY'VE GOT. YOU'RE RIGHT, TODD, A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE LOOKING AT THAT FIELD AND THEY'RE FINDING FLAWS WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE CANDIDATES. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. THERE'S A HUNGER FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS LATER, BUT I'VE GOT A FUNNY FEELING THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE IS NOT IN THE FIELD YET.

Dorman: WELL, AND STAYING OUT OF THE CAMPAIGN IS A GREAT WAY TO REMAIN POPULAR. THAT MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE SHOTS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN THE DEBATES.

Glover: WITH TOP-TIER CANDIDATES OUT OF THE STRAW POLL, WHAT IF FRED THOMPSON, WHO'S GOT NAME I.D. THAT WON'T QUIT, WHAT IF HE JUMPS IN THE RACE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE A PLAY IN THAT STRAW POLL, AND HE'LL COME UP HERE WITH A RED PICKUP TRUCK AND DRIVE AROUND. WHAT IF HE WINS THE DARN THING?

Henderson: AND THE OTHER NAME WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED IS NEWT GINGRICH. YOU KNOW, HE'S FLOATING AROUND THERE. HE'S BELOVED BY MANY OF THE CONSERVATIVES WHO BELIEVE HE IS THE MOST ARTICULATE MESSENGER OF THEIR PARTICULAR VIEWS. SO THIS RACE REALLY IS NOT SETTLED.

Russell: AND THERE ARE INDICATIONS HE COULD END UP -- HE COULD SHOW UP AT THE STRAW POLL TOO.

Henderson: MM-HMM.

Yepsen: JOYCE, DO YOU THINK THE FACT THAT RUDY GIULIANI AND JOHN MCCAIN HAVE OPTED NOT TO COMPETE IN THE STRAW POLL IS SORT OF THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THIS EVENT, OR IS IT TOO EARLY TO SAY?

Russell: WELL, IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY, DEPENDS ON HOW IT TURNS OUT. I MEAN IF FRED THOMPSON WERE TO ENTER THE RACE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND COME HERE AND WIN THE STRAW POLL AND THEN WIN THE CAUCUSES, I THINK THERE WOULD BE NO HARM DONE TO THE STRAW POLL. THE CANDIDATES WHO HAVE DECIDED NOT TO COME TO THE STRAW POLL, AT LEAST WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THEY'VE MADE THE JUDGMENT THAT IT'S NOT WORTH THE COST. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST THE STRAW POLL HAS BEEN A GOOD INDICATOR OF HOW PEOPLE -- HOW WELL PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IN THE CAUCUS. THERE'S USUALLY A TRANSFERENCE THERE.

Glover: THERE'S A SENSE THAT BOTH THOSE CAMPAIGNS, BOTH THE GIULIANI CAMPAIGN AND THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN, ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CALLING A DRIVE-BY. THEY WANT TO DO IOWA. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO SAY, OH, I'M NOT GOING TO COMPETE IN IOWA. SO THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN ONCE A MONTH, COMPETE, AND BET THAT THEIR MONEY AND THEIR NAME IDENTIFICATION WILL ALLOW THEM TO GET DINGED UP A LITTLE BIT IN IOWA AND TO LIVE TO FEBRUARY 5.

Russell: IT'S INTERESTING TO SPECULATE ABOUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THEIR DECISION NOT TO BE IN THE STRAW POLL AND THE MORE COMPRESSED CAUCUS SCHEDULE. ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE STRESSED TO BE IN OTHER STATES AND NOT JUST IOWA BECAUSE OF THE EARLIER RACES IN ALL OF THOSE OTHER STATES. SO IT'S INTERESTING, IS THAT THE PRESSURE THAT WAS COMING TO BEAR ON THOSE CANDIDATES WHO SAID, WELL, WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT THE STRAW POLL?

Yepsen: WELL, AND THEY'VE GOT TO BE ELSEWHERE TO RAISE MONEY TO COMPETE IN ALL THOSE OTHER STATES. YOU CAN'T JUST WIN IOWA AND THEN RAISE MONEY OFF OF IOWA TO COMPETE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE IT UP FRONT. TODD, LET'S WORK OUR WAY DOWN THROUGH -- DRILL DOWN THROUGH THIS LIST OF CANDIDATES A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT EACH ONE. MITT ROMNEY, WHAT'S HE DOING RIGHT? WHAT'S HE DOING WRONG? HOW DO YOU HANDICAP HIM?

Dorman: WELL, WHAT HE'S DOING RIGHT IS HE'S BEEN ABLE TO RAISE MONEY AND HE'S BEEN ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY SIZABLE AND COMPLETE ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE. THAT'S GIVEN HIM A LEG UP. HIS ADVERT IS -- HE'S RUN THREE TELEVISION -- MAJOR TELEVISION ADS AT THIS POINT THAT HAVE BEEN WELL RECEIVED. AND THE CAMPAIGN ATTRIBUTES HIS RISE TO A LOT OF THAT TELEVISION ADVERTISING. HE'S -- RIGHT NOW HE LOOKS -- OF THE TOP THREE CANDIDATES THAT HAVE DECLARED, HE LOOKS ABOUT THE MOST SOLID. BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, HE'S TAKEN A BEATING TO SOME EXTENT BECAUSE OF WHAT PEOPLE SAY ARE FLIP-FLOPS. HE AT ONE POINT WAS PRO-CHOICE ON ABORTION. NOW HE'S PRO-LIFE. AT ONE POINT HE SEEMED TO BE MORE FOR GAY RIGHTS, AND NOW HE CLAIMS HE'S NOT AS MUCH FOR GAY RIGHTS. SO THAT'S HURT HIM.

Yepsen: KAY, ISN'T HE RUNNING THE BEST CAMPAIGN AMONG THE REPUBLICANS?

Henderson: IN IOWA, IN ADDITION TO THOSE ADVERTISEMENTS THAT TODD MENTIONED, HE'S DONE A LOT OF DIRECT MAIL TO IOWA REPUBLICANS DECISION MAKERS BECAUSE, REMEMBER, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND IOWA REPUBLICANS WHO REALLY MATTER IN THE IOWA CAUCUSES. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO GO OUT ON SOME NIGHT IN JANUARY, MAYBE DECEMBER, AND VOTE. HE SENT THEM MAILINGS. HE SENT THEM A DVD TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF. THE OTHER THING ABOUT MITT ROMNEY THAT I THINK PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T WATCHED HIM CAMPAIGN IN IOWA MISS IS THAT HE IS TERRIFIC AS A BANQUET SPEAKER, AS A SPEAKER TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE. I'M NOT QUITE SURE HE'S AS GOOD ONE ON ONE WITH PEOPLE, BUT WHEN HE HAS A ROOM, HE KNOWS HOW TO PERFORM AND THAT IS EFFECTIVE.

Glover: TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YEAH, HE'S RUNNING THE BEST CAMPAIGN IN IOWA. HE'S DOING EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO DO TO RUN A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN IN IOWA. HE'S SPENDING TIME HERE. HE'S BUILT A STAFF HERE. HE'S SPENDING MONEY HERE. HE'S ON THE AIR HERE. HE'S MAILING HERE. HE'S DOING THE ONE-ON-ONE TYPES OF CONTACT YOU NEED TO DO TO BUILD A CAMPAIGN ORGANIZATION IN IOWA, BUT THE QUESTION THAT'S RAISED ABOUT THAT: IS THIS A DIFFERENT YEAR THAN EVERY OTHER YEAR OR CAN A WIN IN IOWA PROPEL YOU INTO THAT FEBRUARY 5 ROUND OF PRIMARIES? MCCAIN AND GIULIANI ARE BETTING IT WON'T.

Yepsen: JOYCE, LET'S TALK ABOUT RUDY GIULIANI. HE SAYS HE'S NOT COMPETING IN THE STRAW POLL BUT HE'S GOING TO COMPETE IN THE CAUCUSES. AS WE'VE MENTIONED, HE'S PRO GAY RIGHTS. HE'S PRO CHOICE, WHICH IS A TOUGH SELL INSIDE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. HOW DO YOU THINK HE'S GOING TO DO?

Russell: BOY, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S HARD FOR -- IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE -- THAT THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY WOULD BE SO AVERSE TO DOING WELL HERE. I JUST DON'T SEE HOW HE CAN OVERCOME THAT.

Glover: THERE WILL BE A PRAGMATIC BASE OF THE RUDY GIULIANI CAMPAIGN, MODERATES TO MODERATE CONSERVATIVES WHO THINK WE'VE GOT TO BET ON THE WIN IN NOVEMBER. BUT REALISTICALLY, I DON'T SEE HOW HE WINS THE IOWA CAUCUSES. I THINK IF HE -- HE'S BETTING AND HOPING THAT IF HE CAN DO A SECOND OR THIRD, HE CAN SAY, 'WELL, I DIDN'T CAMPAIGN TO THE EXTENT THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DID, I'VE BEEN A NATIONAL CANDIDATE ELSEWHERE,' AND HOPES THAT WILL SELL.

Yepsen: AND UNLIKE ROMNEY, GIULIANI REALLY HAS RUN A BAD CAMPAIGN IN THIS STATE. HE'S BEEN NONEXISTENT. HE'S GOT SIX MONTHS TO GO BUT -- TODD, WHAT ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN? HIS POLL NUMBERS ARE DROPPING.

Dorman: YEAH, HE'S BEEN KIND OF ONE OF THE BIG STORIES OF THE RACE FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT HE'S KIND OF SANK LIKE A STONE. HE AT ONE POINT WAS CONSIDERED PERHAPS THE FRONT-RUNNER, THE FAVORITE TO WIN THE NOMINATION. AND IN IOWA WHERE HE DIDN'T RUN IN 1999 AND 2000 -- HE SKIPPED THE CAUCUSES -- HE NEVER REALLY QUITE GOT A FOOTHOLD. IT'S NOT THAT HIS CAMPAIGN -- THAT THE STRUCTURE IS NOT THERE. HE'S HAD MONEY PROBLEMS. HIS MESSAGE HASN'T SEEMED TO RESONATE. AND A LOT OF REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES REMEMBER THAT HE DIDN'T RUN HERE LAST TIME. THEY REMEMBER SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HE SAID ABOUT SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES, AND THEY DON'T -- THEY DON'T NECESSARILY TRUST HIM YET.

Yepsen: KAY, TALK ABOUT THAT SECOND TIER OF REPUBLICANS. I'M THINKING SAM BROWNBACK, MIKE HUCKABEE, TOMMY THOMPSON, RON PAUL, TOM TANCREDO. THEY'RE ALL GETTING ONE OR TWO POINTS IN IOWA.

Henderson: RIGHT.

Yepsen: WHAT DO YOU SEE? ANYBODY DOING WELL? ANYBODY DOING POORLY?

Henderson: WELL, A COUPLE OF THEM ARE SPENDING TIME HERE, WHICH MAY INDEED LAND THEM UP A NOTCH, FOLKS LIKE SAM BROWNBACK WHO SPENT A LOT OF TIME HERE THIS PAST WEEK. HUCKABEE HAS NOT SPENT A LOT OF TIME HERE, SO I THINK IF ONE OF THOSE FOLKS IS GOING TO MOVE UP, IT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME HERE. BUT NONE OF THEM ARE REALLY FINDING A MESSAGE AND CONNECTING WITH ENOUGH PEOPLE TO PUT THEM -- VAULT THEM UP INTO THAT NEXT TIER.

Glover: IT'S RUDY GIULIANI'S SECRET WEAPON. HE'S HOPING THAT WITH THAT GROUP OF CANDIDATES, ALMOST ALL OF WHOM ARE SOCIAL AND RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES, IT'S THE HOPE OF PEOPLE LIKE RUDY GIULIANI THAT THOSE FOLKS WILL GO OUT AND TAKE THAT CHRISTIAN COALITION VOTE AND JUST DICE IT UP, EACH OF THEM GRAB 2 OR 3 PERCENT OF THE CHRISTIAN COALITION VOTE, THEREFORE, RENDERING THAT VOTE LARGELY MEANINGLESS, ALLOWING MODERATES TO ONCE RECLAIM THEIR PARTY.

Yepsen: WELL, A FORM OF THAT HAPPENED IN 1980 WHEN THE FIRST PRESIDENT BUSH WON IOWA BECAUSE THE CONSERVATIVES WERE SPLIT ALL AROUND.

Glover: THAT'S RIGHT AND THERE'S A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY THAT COULD HAPPEN AGAIN WHEN YOU'VE GOT SO MANY OF THOSE RIGHT-WING TRUE BELIEVER CANDIDATES OUT THERE MAKING THAT ONE-ON-ONE PITCH. THIS IS ANOTHER DYNAMIC THAT I THINK IS INTERESTING; A LOT OF REPUBLICANS THINK THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THEIR GRAVE IN 2008. THEY THINK THAT WE'VE GOT A PRESIDENT WHO IS IN THE TWENTIES FOR APPROVAL RATING, A WAR THAT'S UNPOPULAR. IT'S NOT LOOKING LIKE A REAL GOOD YEAR. SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE A BAD YEAR, LET'S GO DOWN WITH ONE OF US, A TRUE BELIEVER.

Russell: AND SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES MIGHT JUST START DROPPING OUT WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO DECEMBER AND JANUARY, AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A VERY BIG EFFECT ON THE OVERALL RANKING.

Yepsen: WHICH COULD BE THE TRADITIONAL EFFECT OF THE STRAW POLL, WHICH IS IF YOU DO POORLY IN IOWA, YOUR MONEY DRIES UP.

Glover: WELL, AND THE TIMING OF THAT IS PROPITIOUS BECAUSE AT THE END OF JUNE THERE'S GOING TO BE YET ANOTHER QUARTERLY MONEY REPORT COMING OUT ABOUT THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK IN JULY. WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHERE A LOT OF THESE CANDIDATES STAND ON MONEY. FOR A LOT OF THEM, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD NEWS.

Yepsen: TODD, LET'S SWITCH GEARS AND MOVE TO THE DEMOCRATS. WHAT ISSUES DO YOU SEE DRIVING THAT? WHAT FACTORS? HOW DO YOU SEE THAT DEMOCRATIC RACE IN IOWA?

Dorman: THERE ARE TRADITIONAL ISSUES: EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. BUT WHEN YOU TALK TO DEMOCRATS AT EVENTS, CLEARLY THE IRAQ WAR IS THE NUMBER ONE, FAR AND AWAY, ISSUE THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THESE CANDIDATES STAND. AND WHAT IT'S BEEN IN THE RACE SO FAR IS A RACE BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES TO WHO CAN WITHDRAW U.S. TROOPS THE FASTEST AND IN WHAT WAY. I MEAN YOU'VE GOT FOLKS SAYING THEY WANT TO WITHDRAW IN A YEAR OR NEXT YEAR OR IN A FEW MONTHS, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT CANDIDATES WHO WANT TO WITHDRAW NOW. YOU'VE GOT CANDIDATES THAT SAY WE'RE GOING TO WITHDRAW AND NOT LEAVE ANY TROOPS IN THE REGION. I MEAN IT'S -- THEY'RE SENSING FROM THE BASE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT THIS WAR IS SO UNPOPULAR THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PLAN THAT INVOLVES ENDING IT QUICKLY. SO THAT'S WHERE THE CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN KIND OF ARGUING ABOUT THE DETAILS OF HOW DO YOU GET OUT.

Yepsen: KAY, HOW DO YOU SEE THE DEMOCRATIC RACE?

Henderson: WELL, THERE'S A GREAT AMOUNT OF PASSION ON THE PART OF DEMOCRATS, PARTLY BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HELD THE WHITE HOUSE, BECAUSE GEORGE BUSH HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR THE PAST SIX AND A HALF YEARS. THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IF YOU GO TO THESE EVENTS IS THAT THERE'S REALLY A SENSE AMONG DEMOCRATS THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE, AND SO THEY DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR VOTE. SO WHAT HAS BEEN MOST INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT THESE CANDIDATES ARE REALLY NOT LOCKING UP PEOPLE. IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THE LAST POLLS THIS WEEK, THE NUMBER ONE VOTE GETTER IS UNDECIDED AMONG DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY REALLY WANT TO PICK SOMEBODY AND WIN THE WHITE HOUSE. THEY WERE SO DISAPPOINTED IN 2004 WHEN THEY HAD JOHN KERRY AND HE WASN'T ABLE TO -- THEY SEE THE OPPORTUNITY. THEY SEE THE CHESS PIECES OUT ON THE MAP, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BLOW IT AND PICK THE WRONG PERSON.

Glover: I THINK IF YOU -- I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP TIER OF CANDIDATES -- AND I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THE TOP TIER OF CANDIDATES AMONG THE DEMOCRATS IS HILLARY CLINTON, JOHN EDWARDS, AND BARACK OBAMA. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THREE OF THOSE AND LOOK CLOSELY, WHICH A LOT OF DEMOCRATS ARE, YOU LOOK AT HILLARY CLINTON, THE LAST POLL SAID 53 PERCENT OF THE DEMOCRATS SURVEYED HAD A FAVORABLE IMPRESSION OF HER, 48 PERCENT OF THE DEMOCRATS SURVEYED HAD AN UNFAVORABLE IMPRESSION OF HER. SHE'S GOT HUGE UNFAVORABLE NUMBERS. BARACK OBAMA, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY: IT'S HIS FIRST TERM IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE; WHAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE IS THAT TO BE PRESIDENT. JOHN EDWARDS IS CARRYING THAT LABEL: HE RAN IN 2004; IT DIDN'T WORK; WHY HIM AGAIN. YOU SEE MAJOR QUESTIONS BEING RAISED ABOUT THE TOP-TIER DEMOCRATIC PARTY AMONG THE ACTIVISTS, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK PEOPLE ARE NOT LOCKING UP. AND THAT FIELD, I THINK, IS STILL OPEN.

Yepsen: BUT THEY ARE PUMPED UP. I MEAN KAY MENTIONED THE ENERGY. YOU COMPARE -- YOU COMPARE THE AVERAGE DEMOCRATIC CROWD WITH THE AVERAGE REPUBLICAN CROWD, AND IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN --

Henderson: YEAH, I MEAN THIS PAST WEEK YOU SAW RUDY GIULIANI GIVE A SPEECH IN DES MOINES. THERE WERE VERY FEW MOMENTS IN THAT SPEECH WHEN PEOPLE APPLAUDED, WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY RESPONDED TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING. YOU GO TO A BARACK OBAMA EVENT, EVERY OTHER SENTENCE GETS APPLAUSE.

Yepsen: IT WOULD HELP RUDY GIULIANI IF HE SHOWED UP ON TIME. HE WAS 45 MINUTES LATE FOR THAT SPEECH. JOYCE, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THE DEMOCRATIC RACE?

Russell: WELL, I THINK IT'S HARD TO ARGUE WITH THOSE AS THE TOP THREE IN THE RACE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK HAS BEEN INTERESTING TO WATCH IS THE VOTES IN CONGRESS AS THIS THING HAS PROGRESSED. THERE WAS A SPENDING BILL INVOLVING THE IRAQ WAR, AND SENATOR OBAMA, SENATOR CLINTON, AND SENATOR DODD ALL VOTED AGAINST THAT. AND THEY'RE ALL OUT THERE SAYING WE NEED TO BRING THE TROOPS HOME AS SOON AS WE CAN. AND THEY'RE ALMOST IN LOCKSTEP WITH EACH OTHER. AND SENATOR BIDEN, OF ALL PEOPLE, WHO REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE MUCH STRIDE AND DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GOING, HE SORT OF CAME OUT AS THE CANDIDATE WITH SOME COURAGE WITH A MORE NUANCED VIEW ON THE WAR IN IRAQ AND THE WHOLE SPENDING ISSUE.

Yepsen: MIKE, LET'S DO WHAT WE DID WITH THE REPUBLICANS AND SORT OF LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON AND HER HIGH NEGATIVES. IS THAT ALL THE PROBLEMS SHE'S GOT IN THIS STATE?

Glover: NO. SHE HAS A NUMBER OF OTHER PROBLEMS. A) SHE'S NOT A TERRIFICALLY GOOD RETAIL CANDIDATE. SHE'S A LITTLE BIT ALOOF OR SHE HAS THE REPUTATION OF BEING A LITTLE BIT OF ALOOF. SHE'S NOT THE KIND OF A CANDIDATE THAT GETS DOWN IN THE CROWD AND MINGLES AND RUBS SHOULDERS AND DOES THAT KIND OF ONE-ON-ONE RETAIL CAMPAIGN.

Yepsen: UNLIKE HER HUSBAND.

Glover: UNLIKE HER HUSBAND -- UNLIKE HER HUSBAND WHO IS A GENIUS AT IT. AND THERE'S ANOTHER INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT; HER HUSBAND JUST ANNOUNCED HE'S GOING TO BE COMING OUT TO IOWA FOR THREE DAYS TO CAMPAIGN WITH HER. SO THEY'RE CLEARLY TRYING TO PLAY THE BILL CLINTON IS WILDLY POPULAR AMONG DEMOCRATS CARD, AND THAT, TO A LARGE EXTENT, I THINK WILL WORK.

Yepsen: IS THAT GOING TO DO HER SOME GOOD, OR HAS HE GOT HIS OWN NEGATIVE?

Glover: IT'S A VERY DELICATE BALANCING ACT. AMONG DEMOCRATS I THINK IT DOES HER SOME GOOD. REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT BILL CLINTON IN THE GENERAL POPULATION, BILL CLINTON IS REVERED AMONG IOWA DEMOCRATS. REMEMBER WHEN BILL CLINTON SPOKE TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S BIGGEST ANNUAL FUND-RAISER LAST FALL? WITHIN HOURS OF THEM ANNOUNCING HE WAS THE SPEAKER, IT SOLD OUT, JAMMED CROWD, ADULATION AT THE EVENT. YEAH, HE'S REAL POPULAR AMONG DEMOCRATS. HE'LL HELP HER WITH THAT. HE'LL BUMP HER NUMBERS UP, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

Dorman: AND IT ALSO ALLOWS HER TO POINT TO THE FACT THAT SHE'S GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. I MEAN THE FACT THAT HE WAS PRESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS, SHE WAS INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THAT ADMINISTRATION, AND THAT CONTRASTS HER WITH SOMEONE LIKE OBAMA WHO DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE. SO, YEAH, IT'S GOOD IN MULTIPLE WAYS.

Yepsen: KAY, WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF JOHN EDWARDS? HOW IS HE DOING?

Henderson: HE'S RUNNING SORT OF A GUBERNATORIAL CAMPAIGN IN IOWA. HE MAKES A LOT OF APPEARANCES. HE COMES HERE OFTEN. HE HAS REALLY TAPPED INTO A VEIN OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT IS INCREDIBLY --

Yepsen: DEMOCRATIC.

Henderson: I MEAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT IS INCREDIBLY DISSATISFIED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS THAT THEY ELECTED AND THEIR INACTION ON IRAQ. HIS RHETORIC ON THAT IS REALLY STIRRING THOSE PEACE ACTIVISTS WITHIN THE PARTY WHO HAVE SORT OF ALLIED THEMSELVES WITH HIM.

Yepsen: WHY DO YOU THINK THAT'S WORKING? I MEAN EDWARDS FOUR YEARS AGO WAS MR. CENTRIST, MR. MODERATE, TALKING ABOUT WHY WE HAD TO GO TO WAR FROM IRAQ. HE'S DONE 180 DEGREES ON THIS.

Henderson: WELL, PRESIDENT BUSH, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN RELUCTANT TO SAY HE'S EVER MADE A MISTAKE. JOHN EDWARDS CAME OUT AND SAID, 'I MADE A MISTAKE, I WAS WRONG.' AND THAT HAS REALLY RESONATED WITH PEOPLE.

Glover: I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PRAGMATIC SIDE OF IT TOO. IN FACT, THE ANTIWAR GAP, THE FIELD IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THERE. HILLARY CLINTON VOTED AGAINST THE WAR IN THIS MOST RECENT FUNDING AUTHORIZATION. BARACK OBAMA VOTED AGAINST THE WAR IN THIS MOST RECENT FUNDING AUTHORIZATION. CHRIS DODD VOTED AGAINST THE WAR IN THIS MOST RECENT FUNDING. THE ANTIWAR SLICE OF THE PARTY IS ALREADY BEING HEAVILY COMPETED FOR. WHAT'S NOT BEING COMPETED FOR IS, OH, WELL, LET'S GO OVER HERE AND TRY THIS. SO HE'S LOOKING FOR THE HOLE IN THE CROWD.

Yepsen: JOYCE --

Henderson: PLUS, HE HAD LAST TIME AROUND THE PRACTICE. HE IS GOOD AT CAMPAIGNING BECAUSE HE'S BEEN DOING IT A WHILE, AND SO HE KNOWS WHAT TO DO. HE KNOWS HOW TO CONNECT WITH A CROWD, AND HE'S ADDING OTHER FACETS TO HIS MESSAGE IN ADDITION TO IRAQ, LIKE POVERTY AND THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES THAT ARE REALLY SELLING WITH THE CORE DEMOCRATS.

Yepsen: JOYCE, DO YOU THINK JOHN EDWARDS HAS TO WIN IOWA TO REMAIN A VIABLE CANDIDATE?

Russell: THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IF HE DOESN'T -- YOU KNOW, IF HE DOESN'T -- I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS TO WIN IT, BUT HE CERTAINLY HAS TO DO WELL TO REMAIN A VIABLE CANDIDATE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE HAS SO MANY -- HAS SO MUCH GRASS-ROOT ORGANIZING ALREADY HERE. I MEAN HE HAS SO MANY FRIENDS ALREADY. HE'S PRACTICALLY -- AS KAY SAID, HE'S PRACTICALLY LIVED HERE SINCE THE LAST ELECTION.

Glover: HE HAS TO WIN IT. IF HE DOESN'T WIN IOWA, HE'S GONE.

Yepsen: WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?

Glover: BECAUSE HE'S BETTING ALL OF HIS CHIPS ON IOWA. HE'S MORE ORGANIZED HERE. HE'S SPENDING TIME HERE. HE'S GOT THE CAMPAIGN ROOTS HERE. HE WAS HERE IN 2004. HE'S TRYING TO BUILD ON THAT. HE'S SPENDING MORE TIME THAN OTHER CANDIDATES HERE. HE'S NOT SPENDING TIME THAT OTHER CANDIDATES ARE SPENDING IN OTHER STATES. IF HE DOESN'T WIN HERE, HE DOESN'T GO MUCH PAST HERE.

Yepsen: TODD, BARACK OBAMA, GIVE ME YOUR HANDICAP ON HIM. WHAT'S HE DOING RIGHT AND WHAT'S HE NOT DOING RIGHT?

Dorman: BARACK OBAMA, PROBABLY HIS BEST MESSAGE IS THE TURN THE PAGE MESSAGE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR A CLINTON AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR A JOHN EDWARDS AGAIN, LET'S GET PAST WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND LOOK FOR SOMEONE NEW. HE'S THE FRESH FACE. ON DOWN SIDE, AS I MENTIONED, HE DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. HE WAS A STATE LAWMAKER. HE'S IN HIS FIRST TERM IN THE U.S. SENATE. BUT HE IS EXCITING TO PEOPLE. HE'S POTENTIALLY A HISTORY MAKING CANDIDATE. HE SAYS A LOT OF THE RIGHT THINGS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WITH REGARD TO THE WAR. HE CAN CLAIM TO BE AGAINST THE WAR WAY BACK IN 2002 BEFORE IT WAS EVEN EXECUTED. SO IN THAT WAY HE'S RESONATING WITH PEOPLE, BUT THE LACK OF EXPERIENCE IS REALLY THE THING THAT HE HAS TO OVERCOME.

Glover: DEMOCRATS ARE NERVOUS ABOUT BARACK OBAMA. THEY LIKE HIM. HE'S EXCITING. HE'LL PACK A ROOM. HE'LL BRING A CROWD OUT. HE'S A GOOD SPEAKER. HE CAN GET THEM FIRED UP. A LOT OF DEMOCRATS, IF YOU TALK TO THEM, ARE NERVOUS. THEY SEE 2008 AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A DEMOCRATIC YEAR. THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD THE CONGRESS. THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE WHITE HOUSE. IT'S GOING TO BE A DEMOCRATIC YEAR. DO WE REALLY WANT TO BET THE FARM ON A GUY WHO'S IN HIS FIRST TERM IN THE SENATE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD AS A NATIONAL CANDIDATE? IS THAT WHO WE WANT TO PUT OUR CHIPS ON.

Yepsen: YEAH, AND -- GO AHEAD.

Dorman: YOU'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE STORIES, TOO, ABOUT BARACK OBAMA WOULD BE A GREAT RUNNING MATE. I MEAN THAT'S -- THAT'S WHAT SOME PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND THAT'S POTENTIALLY TRUE. BUT, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT; I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF NERVOUSNESS ON BETTING IT ON SOMEONE WHO ISN'T --

Glover: JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICAN FIELD. I'M NOT SURE THIS FIELD IS CLOSED. I'M NOT SURE THERE AREN'T OTHERS OUT THERE.

Yepsen: JOYCE, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SECOND-TIER IN THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE: BILL RICHARDSON, CHRIS DODD, JOE BIDEN. HOW DO YOU HANDICAP THOSE? ANY OF THOSE WITHIN STRIKING DISTANCE OF BREAKING OUT OF THE PACK?

Russell: WELL, AMONG THOSE, BILL RICHARDSON I BELIEVE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO IN ANY POLLS GOT UP INTO THE DOUBLE DIGITS. HE IS APPEALING TO -- I MEAN HE HAS THE MOST FABULOUS RESUME: AMBASSADOR, CONGRESS MEMBER, ENERGY SECRETARY. HE CAN GET THAT HISPANIC VOTE. PROBABLY NAME RECOGNITION IS ONE THING THAT HAS HURT HIM UP TO NOW. HE'S GOT A GOOD TALENTED STAFF. A LOT OF YOUNG ENTHUSIASTIC STAFFERS WHO WORKED FOR THE CULVER CAMPAIGN, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE NOW ON WITH BILL RICHARDSON. SO I THINK HE'LL CONTINUE TO DO BETTER. WHETHER HE CAN GET UP THERE AND BE ONE OF THE TOP ONE OR TWO OUT THREE, I DON'T KNOW.

Yepsen: YEAH, HIS TV ADS AREN'T TOO BAD EITHER.

Russell: YEAH, THEY'RE GOOD.

Yepsen: JOYCE -- WE'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CAUCUS DATE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS NEVER ENDING DISCUSSION OF WHEN THE CAUCUSES WILL BE HELD AND WHAT OTHER STATES ARE DOING IN SHUFFLING AROUND. HOW HAS THE EARLY CALENDAR CHANGED IOWA? WHAT EFFECT IS IT GOING TO HAVE ON THIS RACE?

Henderson: WELL, IT'S DONE SEVERAL INTERESTING THINGS. ONE, IT'S MADE IOWA ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IF YOU STUMBLE HERE, YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE TIME TO RECOVER. NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE THESE CANDIDATES HAVE TO RAISE SO MUCH MONEY AND BECAUSE THESE CANDIDATES HAVE TO GO TO STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, LIKE FLORIDA, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE EARLY CONTESTS, IT'S ALSO REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF CANDIDATE TIME IN IOWA. SO IT HAS MADE -- IT'S JUST A CONVERSE EQUATION THERE. IT'S MADE IT MORE IMPORTANT, YET THEY CAN'T SPEND AS MUCH TIME HERE BECAUSE OF THE CALENDAR.

Yepsen: MIKE, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THAT CALENDAR?

Glover: THE SAME THING. IOWA IS MORE IMPORTANT BUT THE RETAIL POLITICS ARENA IN IOWA, THE TRADITIONAL RETAIL POLITICS ARENA WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT DICK GEPHARDT IN 1987 RENTING AN APARTMENT, MOVING HIS MOTHER HERE, LIVING IN IOWA FOR WEEKS ON END, THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THIS TIME. THEY HAVE TOO MANY OTHER PLACES TO PLAY. THE RETAIL POLITICS, THE DOOR-TO-DOOR, GRASS-ROOTS TYPE POLITICS IS CHANGING. CANDIDATES ARE BEING REPLACED BY STAFFERS. CANDIDATES ARE BEING REPLACED LARGELY BY SURROGATES. SO THE CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY IS AT THE SAME LEVEL, BUT THE CANDIDATE APPEARANCES ARE AT A LOWER LEVEL.

Yepsen: JOYCE, HAVE WE SEEN THE DEATH OF RETAIL? INSTEAD OF RETAIL, IS IOWA NOW A WALMART STATE WHERE YOU'VE GOT A WHOLESALE?

Russell: WELL, I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S STILL -- I MEAN BARACK OBAMA IS GOING DOOR TO DOOR ALREADY EVEN IN THIS CAUCUS RACE, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S DEAD. IT'S MAYBE SUFFERED A HIT.

Yepsen: YEAH, HE'S GOT 50 REPORTERS IN TOW BEHIND HIM -- [ LAUGHTER ]

Glover: ON TOUR, 35 OF US WALKING DOWN A RESIDENTAL STREET --

Dorman: PEOPLE WOULDN'T OPEN THE DOOR.

Glover: PEOPLE ARE FLEEING FROM THE FRONT DOOR.

Yepsen: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THIS CHANGING CALENDAR AND HOW IT AFFECTS IOWA? IS THIS THE LAST YEAR THAT IOWA IS IMPORTANT?

Dorman: WELL, YOU KNOW, SO FAR THE CAMPAIGN HAS ALMOST HAD LIKE A GENERAL ELECTION FEEL, THESE CANDIDATES KIND OF JETTING IN, DOING A COUPLE OF EVENTS AND JETTING OUT AND GOING ELSEWHERE, AND A LOT OF TV ADS. I MEAN IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO OVER TO JOE'S HOUSE AND MEET WITH 15 PEOPLE IN THE LIVING ROOM. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE DEATH OF IT. I GUESS IT HAS TO -- THAT WILL SHAKE ITSELF OUT, BUT I MEAN IT'S DEFINITELY -- IT'S NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE.

Yepsen: WE'RE OUT OF TIME BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I KNOW ONE THING, WE'VE GOT SIX MONTHS TO GO IN THIS CAUCUS CAMPAIGN. SO WE'LL BE BACK TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS.

Glover: AS ARNOLD SAID, WE'LL BE BACK.

Yepsen: RIGHT. THANKS EVERYBODY. WE HAVE A BUSY NIGHT OF POLITICAL COVERAGE COMING UP THIS THURSDAY, JUNE 28, AS IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION PRESENTS THREE HOURS OF POLITICAL PROGRAMMING. AT 7 P.M. ON THURSDAY, IT'S 'POLITICS AND THE PRESS, A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION,' SPONSORED BY DRAKE UNIVERSITY, THE DES MOINES REGISTER, THE TRIBUNE FOUNDATION, THE POYNTER INSTITUTE, AND IPTV. PUBLIC FIGURES, JOURNALISTS, EXPERTS, AND POLITICAL INSIDERS EXAMINE THE ROLE OF THE MEDIA IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. THEN AT 8 P.M., TAVIS SMILEY TAKES OVER FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., IN THE FIRST OF TWO CANDIDATE SESSIONS TITLED 'THE ALL-AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL FORUM.' THIS TIME AROUND CANDIDATES SEEKING THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION FACE A PANEL OF POLITICAL REPORTERS AND COLUMNISTS. AND THEN AT 9:30 ON THURSDAY, A SPECIAL LIVE EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS' COMES YOUR WAY AS WE GATHER OUR TEAM OF POLITICAL REPORTERS TO OFFER OUR IMPRESSIONS OF THAT TAVIS SMILEY GATHERING AT HOWARD UNIVERSITY. I HOPE YOU'LL BE JOINING US. AND IN A CLOSING NOTE, ALL THREE PROGRAMS ARE STREAMED LIVE AT IPTV.ORG. WELL, THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF 'IOWA PRESS.' WE RETURN NEXT WEEKEND AT OUR REGULAR 'IOWA PRESS' AIRTIMES AND ON THURSDAY, JUNE 28, AT 9:30 AS WELL. THANKS FOR JOINING US.

FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PROVIDE BY 'FRIENDS,' THE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION FOUNDATION; BY THE IOWA BANKERS ASSOCIATION... FOR PERSONAL, BUSINESS, AND COMMERCIAL NEEDS, IOWA BANKS HELP IOWANS REACH THEIR FINANCIAL GOALS; AND BY THE ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS OF IOWA, THE PUBLIC'S PARTNER IN BUILDING IOWA'S HIGHWAY, BRIDGE, AND MUNICIPAL UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE.


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