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CAMPAIGN 2002: The Office of Attorney General and Office of Treasurer

posted on October 23, 2002

Glover: HELLO AGAIN, AND WELCOME TO THE THIRD INSTALLMENT OF "CAMPAIGN 2002," OUR FIVE-PART CANDIDATE FORUM THIS WEEK ON IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION. ON MONDAY EVENING, WE DISCUSSED THE CAMPAIGN OF 2002 WITH FOUR CANDIDATES SEEKING TO BECOME SECRETARY OF STATE AND WITH TWO CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT FOR AUDITOR OF IOWA. LAST NIGHT FIVE CANDIDATES JOINED US, EACH SEEKING TO BECOME IOWA SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE. THIS EVENING, OUR CAMPAIGN SPOTLIGHT SHIFTS TO THE CAMPAIGN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND TO THE CAMPAIGN FOR TREASURER OF IOWA. LET'S MEET OUR GUESTS.THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF IOWA IS THE STATE'S TOP LEGAL OFFICIAL. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ADVISES IOWA'S EXECUTIVE COUNCIL AND IS ELECTED TO A FOUR-YEAR TERM. ATTORNEY GENERAL TOM MILLER OF DES MOINES IS THE DEMOCRATIC INCUMBENT, AND HE IS SEEKING HIS SEVENTH TERM IN OFFICE.REPRESENTING THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY ON THE BALLOT IS EDWARD NOYSE OF FAIRFIELD.AND THE CANDIDATE FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL ON THE REPUBLICAN TICKET IS STATE REPRESENTATIVE DAVE MILLAGE OF BETTENDORF. THANKS TO EACH OF YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.THE TREASURER OF IOWA IS THE STATE'S CHIEF BANKER AND RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING THE STATE'S CASH FLOW SOLVENT. THE TREASURER IS A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL AND IS ELECTED TO A FOUR-YEAR TERM.MICHAEL FITZGERALD, DEMOCRAT FROM WEST DES MOINES, IS THE INCUMBENT, AND HE'SSEEKING A SIXTH TERM IN OFFICE. TIM HIRD IS FROM DES MOINES, AND HE REPRESENTS THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY ON THE 2002 BALLOT.AND MATT WHITAKER OF URBANDALE IS THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT FOR TREASURER OF IOWA. WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU. GENERAL MILLER, LET'S START THIS EVENING OFF WITH YOU. YOU ALL PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD REASONS WHY YOU THINK YOU OUGHT TO BE IN ELECTED OFFICE.

Miller: A LOT OF EXCELLENT REASONS.

Glover: PICK ONE. GIVE THE VOTERS YOUR BEST SHOT ABOUT WHY YOU OUGHT TO HAVE ANOTHER TERM IN OFFICE.

Miller: BECAUSE I'M ABLE TO GIVE THE FULL SERVICE IN THAT OFFICE, I AND MY STAFF. WE'VE GOT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT IOWANS, THE ORDINARY PEOPLE, TO USE THE LAW TO FURTHER THEIR INTERESTS, AND I THINK WE DO IT WELL. WE DO IT IN THE CRIMINAL LAW AREA. FOR INSTANCE, DURING THIS TERM WE'VE HANDLED 700 CASES WITH COUNTY ATTORNEYS, INCLUDING 56 HOMICIDES. WE'VE COMMITTED 33 SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATORS. WE'VE GOT PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST VICTIMS PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTRY. WE'VE EXCELLED AT CONSUMER, WORKING FOR PARTICULARLY ELDERLY CONSUMERS IN THINGS LIKE SWEEPSTAKES AND TELEMARKETING FRAUD. WE BAND TOGETHER AND DO MULTISTATES WITH THE OTHER ATTORNEY GENERALS, DO THESE MULTISTATE CASES. MOST RECENTLY THE HOUSEHOLD CASE, WHERE WE RECOVERED FOR IOWA $1.5 MILLION. THESE MULTISTATES OR NATIONAL CASES ARE WAYS WE POOL OUR RESOURCES AND SERVE CONSUMERS.

Glover: MR. NOYSE, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. YOU PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD REASONS FOR BEING IN PUBLIC OFFICE, BUT PICK THE ONE YOU THINK THAT'S REALLY GOING TO MOVE VOTERS.

Noyse: MIKE, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, I'VE DONE AN IN-DEPTH STUDY OF THE MAKING OF THE CONSTITUTION WITH CLYDE CLEVELAND, WHO IS RUNNING FOR THE GOVERNOR OF IOWA. AND WE CAME TO CERTAIN CONCLUSIONS THAT AMERICA HAD MOVED AWAY FROM ITS ORIGINAL INTENT AND HAD BECOME WHAT WE CALL A TOP-DOWN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. WE REALIZED WHAT THE VISION OF THE FOUNDERS WAS, WHICH WAS BASICALLY RETURNING THE POWER BACK TO THE PEOPLE AT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY LEVEL. WE BECAME INSPIRED ABOUT THAT VISION. AND TOGETHER WE WROTE A BOOK THAT I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU CALLED "RESTORING THE HEART OF AMERICA: A RETURN TO GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE." THAT BOOK DETAILS EVERY AREA OF SOCIETY -- ENERGY PRODUCTION,CRIMINAL JUSTICE, WELFARE, THE ENVIRONMENT, AGRICULTURE -- AND SHOWS WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL ARE REEMPOWERED, AND IT WILL CREATE THE MOST EFFICIENT AND MOST EFFECTIVE FORM OF GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE CREATED IN AMERICA AND IN IOWA, WHICH IS A TOP HEAVY, EXPENSIVE, BUREAUCRATIC FORM OF GOVERNMENT. AND WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE IOWANS LEAD THE NATION IN THIS NEW FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

Glover: AND WE'LL GET TO SOME OF THOSE. MR. MILLAGE, ASSUMING YOUR TWO OPPONENTS HAVEN'T CONVINCED YOU, GIVE VOTERS YOUR BEST SHOT ABOUT WHY YOU OUGHT TO BE THE NEXT ATTORNEY GENERAL OF IOWA.

Millage: BECAUSE AS WAS INDICATED EARLIER, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IS BECOMING ENGAGED IN A LOT OF NATIONAL HIGH-PROFILE CASES AND AWAY FROM ITS TRUE MISSION, WHICH IS THREEFOLD. THE THREE MISSIONS OF THE OFFICE ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT, CONSUMER PROTECTION, COMPETENT REPRESENTATION OF STATE AGENCIES. WHEN YOU'RE ENGAGED IN THESE NATIONAL ANTITRUST CLASS ACTION SUITS, YOU'RE LOSING THE FOCUS OF THE OFFICE. WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN THE PAST YEAR. HOW DOES SUING MICROSOFT BENEFIT PEOPLE IN IOWA MORE THAN IT BENEFITS PEOPLE IN OTHER STATES? WE NEED TO WAGE WAR ON METHAMPHETAMINE FOR THE PEOPLE OF IOWA,NOT ON MICROSOFT. WE NEED TO RETURN THE OFFICE BACK TO THOSE THREE CORE MISSIONS AND SERVE IOWANS AND IOWAN'S COMPLAINTS AND MAKE IOWANS MORE SECURE.

Glover: ME. FITZGERALD, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT AND TALK DIFFERENT ISSUES FOR DIFFERENT OFFICES, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW GIVE US YOUR BEST SHOT OF WHY YOU OUGHT TO BE TREASURER FOR ANOTHER FOUR-YEAR TERM.

Fitzgerald: WELL, I'VE BROUGHT PROFESSIONALISM TO THE STATE TREASURER'S OFFICE, AND THAT HAS RESULTED POSITIVELY FOR IOWA CITIZENS. FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE KEPT THE MONEY SAFE. WE'VE NEVER LOST A PENNY. WE'VE INVESTED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS RIGHT HERE IN THE STATE OF IOWA, AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT THE REPUBLICAN STATE AUDITOR HAS NEVER GIVEN US A WRITTEN CRITICISM FOR HOWWE'VE DONE FOR THAT -- OR ACCOUNTED FOR THAT MONEY. AND WE'VE EXTENDED THAT PROFESSIONALISM TO HELP IOWA FAMILIES. WE DEVELOPED A COLLEGE SAVINGS IOWA PLAN. IT'S A PROGRAM THAT HELPS FAMILIES SAVE FOR THEIR CHILDREN'S COLLEGE EDUCATION. THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN RATED TOPS BY "TIME MAGAZINE," "CNN," AND "MONEY MAGAZINE." WE'VE ALSO DEVELOPED AND EXPANDED THE GREAT IOWA TREASURE HUNT, WHERE WE RETURNED MONEY TO OVER 200,000 IOWANS. AND I'VE STOOD UP FOR THE IOWA PENSION FUNDS. AS A MEMBER OF THE IPERS BOARD, I HAVE FOUGHT FOR US NOW TO HIRE LITIGATION ATTORNEYS TO GO AFTER THESE CORPORATE CEOs, ENRON, WORLD COM, THOSE TYPE OF CHARACTERS, GET OUR PENSION FUND MONEY BACK, AND ALSO HELP OTHER IOWA PENSIONERS AT THE SAME TIME.

Glover: MR. HIRD, YOUR QUESTION.

Hird: THIS IS NOT ABOUT HOW I CAN BE A BETTER TREASURER OF THE STATE OF IOWA THAN SOMEONE ELSE. I BELIEVE THAT ANY HONEST, UPRIGHT, FORTHRIGHT PERSON CAN BE THE TREASURER OF THE STATE. THE POLITICIANS OF OUR STATE HAVE LED US AWAY FROM INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES AND PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITIES, WHICH ARE THE ONLY FOUNDATION FOR A JUST AND HUMANE AND ABUNDANT SOCIETY. GOVERNMENT AT ALL LEVELS ARE TOO EXPENSIVE, TOO LARGE, WOEFULLY INEFFICIENT, ARROGANT. THIS IS WHY I'M RUNNING FOR THE TREASURER.

Glover: MR. WHITAKER, I REALLY HESITATE TO SAY THIS TO A FORMER FOOTBALL PLAYER, BUT HIT ME WITH YOUR BEST SHOT.

Whitaker: WELL, MIKE, THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT. WHAT I WANT YOU TO KNOW IS I GREW UP IN ANKENY AND WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO PLAY FOOTBALL FOR COACH FRY AT IOWA. I PLAYED ON THE '91 ROSE BOWL TEAM. MORE IMPORTANTLY, I GRADUATED IN THREE AND A HALF YEARS FROM UNDERGRAD. MY SENIOR YEAR OF FOOTBALL, I WAS AN ACADEMIC ALL-AMERICAN WHILE I WAS ENROLLED IN BOTH THE MASTER OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION PROGRAM AND THE LAW PROGRAM. MY WIFE AND I WERE MARRIED IN LAW SCHOOL. SHE'S A CIVIL ENGINEER, BUT LIKE A LOT OF OUR GRADUATES, WE MOVED OUT OF THE STATE OF IOWA FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WE HAD A COUPLE KIDS, CAME BACK TO IOWA, BUT WE REALIZED THAT THIS ISN'T THE IOWA THAT WE HAD GROWN UP IN. THE REASON I'M DOING THIS IS SO MY KIDS DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT SAME CHOICE. AND AS STATE TREASURER, I'M GOING TO DO MORE AS THE STATE TREASURER THAN IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE. I THINK WE CAN INVEST MORE MONEY IN MAIN STREET BANKS AND IN BANKS THAT HAVE EMPLOYEES AND HAVE FAMILIES THAT WORK AND LIVE IN IOWA, AND I THINK WE CAN ALSO BE INDEPENDENT NO MATTER WHO THE GOVERNOR IS. I THINK THE TREASURER SHOULD STAND AT THE STATE CAPITOL AND GIVE US THE FACTS AND THE TRUTH.

Glover: OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT HERE AND DOA LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT QUESTIONS FOR THE DIFFERENT OFFICES REPRESENTED HERE. MR. MILLAGE, I WANT TO START WITH YOU. I'VE GIVEN YOU A CHANCE TO GIVE US WHAT YOU THINK IS YOUR BIGGEST ASSET IS. GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR OTHER CANDIDATE RIVALS.

Millage: THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS I DON'T INTEND TO ENGAGE IN A LOT OF THESE HIGH-PROFILE NATIONAL CASES THAT DON'T BENEFIT IOWANS MORE THAN THEY BENEFITRESIDENTS OF OTHER STATES. I HAVE A HISTORY, AS YOU KNOW, OF BEING IN THE LEGISLATURE, OF BEING A FISCAL WATCHDOG. I WILL RUN AN EFFICIENT ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE WHO WOULD GO OUT AND, FOR INSTANCE, HIRE ATTORNEYS TO TAKE ON BIG TOBACCO, WATCH THEM LOSE THE CASE, THEN COME TO THE LEGISLATURE, ASK FOR A LAW CHANGE SO THEY CAN WIN, THEN GET BAILED OUT BY A NATIONAL SETTLEMENT. AS A RESULT OF THAT, $44 MILLION GOES OUT TO THOSE FOUR LAW FIRMS. THOSE FOUR LAW FIRMS ARE NOW MAKING $10,000 CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE PERSON WHO HIRED THEM. I DO WANT TO SAY RIGHT NOW THAT WHEN I'M ELECTED ATTORNEY GENERAL, IF IT IS NECESSARY TO HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL, I WILL NOT ACCEPT POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THOSE WHO ARE HIRED ON BEHALF OF THE STATE OF IOWA.

Glover: GENERAL MILLER, YOUR RESPONSE?

Miller: WELL, THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DAVE MILLAGE AND MYSELF CONCERNING LITIGATION. I BELIEVE WHEN PEOPLE VIOLATE THE LAW AND CONSUMERS ARE ABUSED, WE SHOULD BRING CASES AND WE SHOULD ENFORCE THE LAW. TOBACCO WAS AN INSTANCE. HE SAID WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BROUGHT THAT CASE, THAT WE'D NEVER COLLECT A DIME. IN FACT, HE BET ME A BEER ON THAT VERY POINT AND, DAVE, YOU HAVEN'T PAID UP YET. AND THE MULTISTATE CASES OR THE NATIONAL CASES, THOSE ARE THE CASES THAT -- LIKE SWEEPSTAKES AND ADVENTISTS WHERE WE COULD NEVER DO IT AS A STATE, WE COULD NEVER PROTECT OUR OWN CITIZENS BY DOING IT INDIVIDUALLY. WE DO IT AS A GROUP; WE ACHIEVE SUCCESS. THOSE ARE THE CASES THAT HE OBJECTS TO. HE REALLY SHIES AWAY FROM LITIGATION. I EMBRACE IT WHERE NECESSARY, BECAUSE YOUHAVE TO BE A LAW ENFORCER. YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THESE CONSUMERS, AND YOU CAN'T DO IT WITH HIS ATTITUDE OF RELUCTANCE ABOUT THESE CASES.

Glover: MR. NOYSE, DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE YOURSELF TOGETHER FROM THE OTHER TWO, OR DO YOU DRAW A DIFFERENT DISTINCTION BETWEEN YOURSELF AND THE OTHER TWO?

Noyse: MIKE, I REPRESENT THE LARGEST POLITICAL CONTINGENCY IN IOWA, AND THAT'S THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS, BY FAR AND AWAY, ARE MUCH LARGER THAN ANY OF THEREPUBLICANS OR THE DEMOCRATS. WHAT'S HAPPENED IN AMERICA AND IN IOWA IS BOTH THE DEMOCRATIC AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS GOTTEN INFLUENCED AT THE TOP FROM SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. THAT'S WHY WE'VE SEEN THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, SUCHAS TO BRING NUISANCE ACTIONS, IMPAIRED IN LEGISLATION. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED A LONG TIME AGO. I AM UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PEOPLE'S INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS ARE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AND TO PROTECT THOSE RIGHTS IN A WAY THAT'S CLEARLY NOT BEING INFLUENCED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN MY COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES.

Glover: MR. FITZGERALD, LET'S GO TO YOU, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ISSUE FOR THE CANDIDATES FOR TREASURER. YOU ARE THE STATE'S INVESTMENT BANKER, THE STATE'S BANKER. WHY ON EARTH ARE WE ELECTING THE STATE'SBANKER? WHY DON'T WE EITHER GO OUT AND HIRE A TOP-FLIGHT BANKER OR HAVE THE GOVERNOR APPOINT ONE?

Fitzgerald: WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT VOICE IN STATE GOVERNMENT, AND I'VE BEEN AN INDEPENDENT VOICE IN STATE GOVERNMENT. I WAS THE FIRST ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE STATE OF IOWA TO CALL FOR "GAAP" ACCOUNTING, GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES, SO WE'D KNOW WHAT THE TRUE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FOR THE STATE OF IOWA. THAT HAS SERVED US WELL. AND THIS PAST YEAR I WAS ABLE TO GO TO MOODIES AND STANDARD AND POORS AND BRING BACK TO IOWA A DOUBLE A+ RATING FROM BOTH OF THEM, THE SECOND HIGHEST RATING POSSIBLE. SO I THINK HAVING AN INDEPENDENT VOICE SPEAK FOR THE STATE OF IOWA SERVES US WELL.

Glover: MR. WHITAKER, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. WHY ON EARTH ARE WE OUT HERE CAMPAIGNING TO BE OUR INVESTMENT BANKER? WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST PRESENT YOUR CREDENTIALS AND TRY TO GET HIRED?

Whitaker: WELL, YOU KNOW, AS I'VE DRIVEN 77 COUNTIES IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS, WITH 22 MORE TO GO --

Glover: IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO GET APPOINTED, WOULDN'T IT?

Whitaker: IT WOULD, SURE. IT WOULD, CERTAINLY. BUT WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM IN OUR STATE AS WE DO IN OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND THE FOUNDING FATHERS AND THE PIONEERS THAT SETTLED THIS GREAT LAND WE CALL IOWA SET UP THE TREASURER AS AN INDEPENDENT OFFICE TO BE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF IOWA. AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE PEOPLE OF IOWA REALIZE THEY HAVE A CHOICE AND THAT BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE AND EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT AS TO WHO THE STATE'S INVESTMENT BANKER IS.

Glover: MR. HIRD, ISN'T THE STATE TREASURER REALLY A TECHNICIAN, A TECHNOCRAT, AND SHOULDN'T IT BE APPOINTED OR HIRED?

Hird: YOU ARE BASICALLY RIGHT. AS A LIBERTARIAN, I WOULD FEEL THAT TO GET AWAY FROM ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICE WOULD BE FINE AND DANDY, BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY OPPONENT THAT IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION. AND UNLESS WE CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION, WE'RE STUCK WITH THIS INEFFICIENCY.

Glover: GENERAL MILLER, LET'S GO BACK TO YOU. YOU HAD A DISCUSSION WITH REPRESENTATIVE MILLAGE ABOUT SOME OF THE CASES YOU FILED. HAVE YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE ON TAP? ARE WE HEADED DOWN TO OTHER LITIGATION, OTHER NATIONAL TYPES OF CASES LOOMING?

Miller: WELL, WE ARE HEADED TOWARD MULTISTATE LITIGATION. WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS IN THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG AREA AS TO ANTITRUST CASES WHERE THE COMPANIES HAVE A PATENT PERIOD OF TIME AND THEY TRY AND EXTEND IT BY VARIOUS MEANS, WE ARGUE ILLEGALLY. WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PRICING TECHNIQUES THAT THEY DO. THESE ARE NATIONAL CASES, IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM NATIONAL CASES. I CALL THEM MULTISTATE CASES WHERE WE -- AS A GROUP OF ATTORNEY GENERALS, WE USE OUR RESOURCES, WE USE THEM EFFICIENTLY AND DO THINGS WE COULDN'T DO FOR OUR CONSUMERS UNLESS WE DID IT ON A MULTISTATE AND NATIONAL BASIS. IF HE HAS HIS WAY AND WE'RE OUT OF THESE CASES, IOWA CONSUMERS ARE GOING TO SUFFER. JUST LOOK WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN BACK RECENTLY IN SWEEPSTAKES, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS; IN MYLAN CASE, 1.3 MILLION DOLLARS; IN HOUSEHOLD, 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS FOR IOWA CONSUMERS THAT WERE DAMAGED. IF HE HAD HIS WAY, WE WOULDN'T GET THAT MONEY.

Glover: REPRESENTATIVE MILLAGE, YOUR RESPONSE.

Millage: THAT'S NOT TRUE. THOSE CASES CAN BE BROUGHT IN THE STATE LEVEL, HOWEVER. YOU DON'T NEED TO FLY TO WASHINGTON. YOU DON'T NEED TO FLY TO SAN FRANCISCO TO BRING THESE CASES. IF IOWA CONSUMERS ARE AGREED, THAT IS ONE OF THE MISSIONS OF THE OFFICE IS TO PROTECT IOWA CONSUMERS, TO PROTECT IOWA'S FAMILIES. THAT IS A PROPER FUNCTION OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, BUT THOSE CASES CAN BE LODGED IN IOWA AS A RESULT OF CONSUMER COMPLAINTS MADE HERE IN IOWA. I DISAGREE WITH GETTING INVOLVED IN THE NATIONAL SCOPE. WE CAN DO IT IN IOWA. WE HAVE AGRRIEVED CONSUMERS IN IOWA. THEY NEED TO BE PROTECTED IN IOWA. THESE NATIONAL CASES, THOUGH, I WOULD NOT BE THE TYPE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO WOULD BRING A SUIT AGAINST, SAY, MACDONALD'S. I WOULD NOT BE THE TYPE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO WOULD GET INVOLVED IN THESE CASES AGAINST GUN MANUFACTURERS. I THINK THAT'S WRONG. I WOULD NOT BE THE KIND OF ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO WOULD SPEND IOWA RESOURCES HELPING AL GORE IN FLORIDA. THAT'S A PARTISAN ISSUE. THAT'S AN IMPROPER USE OF THE OFFICE.

Glover: MR. NOYSE, HOW DO YOU VIEW THE ROLE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL: THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS THE TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL IN IOWA AND IOWA IS AN ISLAND, OR SHOULD IOWA BE PART OF NATIONAL TRENDS AND NATIONAL CASES?

Noyse: WELL, I SUGGEST BOTH. YOU KNOW, THERE'S TRENDS THROUGHOUT AMERICA THAT ARE IMPACTING IOWA SIGNIFICANTLY. ONE OF THE LARGEST IS ASSIGNING WHAT'S CALLED PERSONHOOD TO CORPORATIONS. THE ANALYSIS THAT I'VE COME TO IS -- ANDIT'S VERY CLEAR -- THAT ONLY HUMANS HAVE INALIENABLE RIGHTS. THAT COMES FROM THE VIRTUE OF BEING BORN HUMAN. AND THEREFORE, CORPORATIONS WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN FREE-SPEECH RIGHTS WHO ARE NOW DOMINATING THE POLITICAL PROCESS THROUGHOUT AMERICAN AND INFLUENCING OUR LEGISLATORS, WE HAVE THE RIGHT AS HUMANS TO TAKE THAT AWAY ENTIRELY. THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. IT WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING AND IT'S A SIMPLE ANALYSIS. AND PEOPLE AS REPUTABLE AS JERRY SPENCE AND OTHER AUTHORS AND CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLARS AGREE WITH ME WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

Glover: MR. WHITAKER, AFTER HAVING SUGGESTED THAT THE OFFICE OUGHT TO BE APPOINTED AND NOT ELECTIVE BECAUSE IT'S A TECHNOCRAT, LET'S TURN THAT ON ITS EAR. I'M ALLOWED, YOU KNOW.

Whitaker: YOU CAN ARGUE BOTH SIDES.

Glover: EXACTLY. SHOULD THE STATE TREASURER OF IOWA HAVE A ROLE IN ADDITION TO BECOMING THE INVESTMENT BANKER FOR THE STATE? SHOULD IT HAVE A ROLE AS THE GUARDIAN OF THE STATE'S BUDGET, PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT SINCE THE PERSONWHO'S BEEN PLAYING THAT, DICK JOHNSON, IS LEAVING GOVERNMENT?

Whitaker: ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK WE SAW DURING THE '90S, WHEN THERE WAS A DIFFERENT GOVERNOR FROM A DIFFERENT PARTY, WE HAD A TREASURER WHO DID STANDSIDE BY SIDE WITH DICK JOHNSON. BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR AND A DEMOCRATIC TREASURER, THE TREASURER HAS BEEN SILENT ON THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES OVER THESE LAST COUPLE YEARS. AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS: NO MATTER WHO THE GOVERNOR IS -- AND I CERTAINLY HAVE A HORSE IN THE RACE; I HOPE IT'S DOUG GROSS. BUT NO MATTER WHO THE NEXT GOVERNOR IS, I'LL BE AN INDEPENDENT VOICE STANDING UP FOR THE PEOPLE OF IOWA, THE ONES THAT I HAVE MET ALL OVER THIS STATE OVER THE LAST FOURTEEN MONTHS AS I'VE CAMPAIGNED TO BECOME THEIR NEXT TREASURER.

Glover: MR. FITZGERALD, FIRST YOUR RESPONSE TO THE CHARGE THAT YOU'VE BEEN SILENT DURING THE BUDGET TROUBLES OF THE VILSACK ADMINISTRATION. AND, SECOND, A LARGER QUESTION: WHAT IS THE ROLE THAT YOU SEE FOR THE TREASURER AS A GUARDIAN OF THE STATE'S BUDGET IN THE ABSENCE OF DICK JOHNSON'S LONG TENURE THERE?

Fitzgerald: WELL, DICK JOHNSON AND I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, WORKED TOGETHER. WE WORKED THROUGH THE TOUGH TIMES OF THE 1980S. AND LET'S FACE IT, THE '80S WERE MUCH TOUGHER AND IT WAS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THEN THAN IT WAS NOW. WE HAD ACTUAL $400-MILLION DEFICIT FOR THE STATE OF IOWA AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. THAT'S WHY BOTH OF US WERE SO OUTRAGED AND BROUGHT THAT SITUATION BACK INTO BALANCE. TODAY THE STATE HAS A BALANCED BUDGET. THE STATE HAS A SURPLUS. THAT'S WHY NEITHER DICK JOHNSON IS CRITICIZING, OR AM I, THE SITUATION AT HAND. WE HAVE ASKED -- AND I'VE ASKED THE GOVERNOR LAST FALL -- WE HAD TO DO SOME TRIMMING, AND WE'VE HAD TO DO THAT. BUT WE'RE MUCH BETTER OFF THAN MOST OF THE OTHER STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY.

Glover: MR. HIRD, ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO BE A WATCHDOG FOR THE STATE'S BUDGET?

Hird: THE FIVE CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTED OFFICERS AND THE GOVERNOR SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TOGETHER, WATCH THIS BUDGET PROCESS AND RIDE HERD OVER THE LEGISLATURE, WHICH PROBABLY IS SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY.

Glover: GENERAL MILLER, LET'S GO TO YOU AND TALK ABOUT SENTENCING REFORM. THERE ARE THOSE WHO SUGGEST THAT IN IOWA WE SEND TOO MANY OF THE WRONG KIND OF PEOPLE TO PRISON. WE SEND TOO MANY CHECK KITERS AND DRUNK DRIVERS TO PRISON, WHICH OUGHT TO BE RESERVED FOR VIOLENT, TRULY DANGEROUS CRIMINALS. (A) DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT ANALYSIS; AND (B) SHOULD THE ATTORNEY GENERAL CARRY THE FLAG FORSENTENCING REFORM IN IOWA?

Miller: I THINK, YOU KNOW, THOSE SUGGESTIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT OVERBLOWN. I THINK IT'S MUCH MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT. WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT RECENTLY AND I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT IS THIS, THAT WE APPROACH IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BUT, I THINK, MUCH MORE EFFECTIVELY, AND THAT IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT SO MUCH OF THE PRISON SPACE IS TAKEN BY PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE FOR DRUGS, EITHER DRUG CRIMES OR CRIMES CAUSED BY DRUG USE. THERE ARE REALLY THREE WAYS TO FIGHT DRUG ABUSE, AND YOU HAVE TO DO THEM ALL. IF YOU FALL BACK ON ONE, IT DOESN'T WORK. ONE IS EDUCATION ON THE DEMAND SIDE. GOVERNOR VILSACK AND OTHERS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF THAT. SECOND IS PROSECUTION, AND WE AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS HAVE DONE AGOOD JOB ON PROSECUTION, I BELIEVE. THE THIRD IS TREATMENT AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE FALLEN DOWN. THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR TREATMENT HAVE DROPPED AND DROPPED AND DROPPED. THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH IT IS TREATMENT AND PROSECUTION COMBINED. YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN THAT IN THE JUVENILE AREA. WE'VE SEEN THAT IN DRUG COURT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO TO BOTH ADDRESS THE DRUGPROBLEM AND THE PRISON PROBLEM.

Glover: MR. MILLAGE, WOULD YOU CARRY THE TORCH FOR SENTENCING REFORM IF YOU'RE ELECTED, OR WOULD THAT NOT BE A PRIORITY FOR YOU?

Millage: I WAS PART OF SENTENCING REFORM IN THE EARLY 1990S. WHEN I WAS ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE, WE PASSED THOSE LAWS THAT REQUIRED FORCIBLE FELONS TO SERVE 85 PERCENT OF THEIR SENTENCE. WE INCREASED PENALTIES BECAUSE WE FELT THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE IMPRISONED. THEY GO INTO PRISON AS A DETERRENT, NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, IT DETERS PEOPLE FROM COMMITTING CRIMES; IT KEEPS THOSE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET WHO HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES. SO I'M NOT INTERESTED IN SENTENCING REFORM IF IT MEANS MORE CRIMINALS ON THE STREET. I'M INTEREST IN KEEPING CRIMINALS BEHIND BARS. I WAS PART OF THE EFFORT THAT TOUGHENED IOWA'S SENTENCING LAWS, AND I'M PROUD OF DOING THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT PROTECTED IOWANS AND I THINK IT DETERRED CRIME.

Glover: MR. NOYSE, WHERE ARE YOU IN THIS WHOLE SENTENCING REFORM? ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE MIX OF PEOPLE WE'RE SENDING TO PRISON?

Noyse: ABSOLUTELY NOT, MIKE. THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN IOWA AND THROUGHOUT AMERICA IS WE'RE SPENDING OUR RESOURCES, OUR VALUED RESOURCES, IN A TIME OF SEVERE CRISIS, A RECESSION, ON NONVIOLENT DRUG OFFENDERS. WE'RE AMPING UP OUR POLICE FORCES AND GOING IN ON SIMPLE MISDEMEANOR OFFENSES, BREAKING DOWN DOORS. I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF THIS REPRESENTING CLIENTS WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING. WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE WRITTEN AN ENTIRE CHAPTER IN THIS BOOK ABOUT REFORMING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IN IOWA. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, IS WE NEED TO CREATE A TRUE COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS SYSTEM THAT UTILIZES THE FRIENDS, FAMILIES, LOVED ONES, FRATERNAL ORGANIZATIONS, CHURCHES. IT ACTUALLY WORKS TO SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE SO THEY DON'T USE DRUGS, SO THEY HAVE A JOB, SO THEY CAN GO OUT ON THE STREET AND NOT GO BACK AND RE-CREATE. OUR SYSTEM IS A FAILURE IN IOWA. IT'S A FAILURE THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

Glover: MR. FITZGERALD, LET'S COME TO YOU FOR ANOTHER CARRYING THE TORCH QUESTION, IF I COULD. THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARGUE THAT BECAUSE OF BUDGET PROBLEMS IN THIS STATE, THE STATE'S INFRASTRUCTURE HAS STARTED TO CRUMBLE. INTEREST RATES ARE HISTORICALLY LOW. IOWA HAS AN HISTORICALLY LOW DEBT LOAD. IS IT TIME TO BEGIN INVESTING IN IOWA, AND SHOULD THE TREASURER CARRY THE TORCH FOR THAT?

Fitzgerald: YES, IT'S TIME TO START INVESTING IN IOWA, AND WE HAVE BEEN. WE STARTED THE BEST PROGRAM THE STATE OF IOWA HAS EVER HAD TWO YEARS AGO WITH VISION IOWA. WE HAVE TAKEN $15 MILLION A YEAR OF GAMBLING MONEY, LEVERAGED THAT INTO $215 MILLION, AND WE'RE GOING TO LEVERAGE THAT INTO $2 BILLION OF CONSTRUCTION ALL OVER THE STATE. WE'RE MAKING IOWA A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. WE'RE IMPROVING OUR ECONOMY. THE TREASURER HAS NOT ONLY BEEN ON THE BOARD BUT I'VE HANDLED THAT FINANCING. IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND WE SHOULD CARRY ON AND EXPAND VISION IOWA.

Glover: SO IT SHOULD BE EXPANDED WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING?

Fitzgerald: ABSOLUTELY.

Glover: AND WHILE I GO TO MR. WHITAKER, YOU'LL TALK TO MR. MILLAGE ABOUT THAT. [ LAUGHTER ] MR. WHITAKER, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. IS IT TIME TO BEGIN INVESTING IN IOWA? INTEREST RATES ARE HISTORICALLY LOW. IOWA HAS A VERY LOW DEBT LOAD. IS IT TIME TO BEGIN POURING MONEY BACK INTO THE STATE?

Whitaker: WELL, STATE GOVERNMENT IS A ZERO-SUM GAME. AND IF YOU INVEST IN SOMETHING, OR SPEND, IT HAS TO COME FROM THE ECONOMY. WHAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN AND WHAT WE NEED TO PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE IS ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND ECONOMICDEVELOPMENT. I LEARNED IN BUSINESS, THE TOP LINE SOLVES A LOT OF PROBLEMS. THE REASON WE'VE SEEN OUR RECENT SHORTAGES IS BECAUSE OUR REVENUE, THE AMOUNT OF INCOME THAT'S GENERATED FROM OUR ECONOMY HAS FALLEN SHORT, AND WE'RE SEEING OUR SENIORS, BOTH OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITIES, COLLEGES, AND OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, INCLUDING COACH FRY, MOVE OUT OF THE STATE OF IOWA. I THINK WE NEED TO FIX THAT BEFORE WE BORROW MORE MONEY AND PUT MY CHILDREN IN MORE DEBT.

Glover: AND WOULD YOU AGREE WITH TREASURER FITZGERALD, THAT WE OUGHT TO EXPAND THE VISION IOWA PROGRAM?

Whitaker: NO, I WOULD NOT. I THINK HE TAKES A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT, BUT HE'S ONE ON THE BOARD THAT HAS GIVEN THOSE -- THAT MONEY OUT. AND THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR OBVIOUSLY APPROPRIATED IT. I WOULD NOT EXPAND THAT RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK THAT OUR COUNTY CAN BEAR THE BURDEN OF IT.

Glover: MR. HIRD, IS IT TIME TO START INVESTING IN IOWA?

Hird: WELL, IF WE'RE DISCUSSING VISION IOWA, THAT'S PROBABLY JUST GOVERNMENT TAKING MONEY FROM POLITICALLY CONNECTED -- OR UNCONNECTED PEOPLE AND GIVING IT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE POLITICALLY CONNECTED AND PROBABLY SHOULD BE DONE AWAY WITHCOMPLETELY.

Glover: SO YOU'D ELIMINATE THE PROGRAM ENTIRELY?

Hird: YES, SIR.

Glover: GENERAL MILLER, LET'S GO TO YOU. IT'S A QUESTION THAT ALL KINDS OF STATEWIDE CANDIDATES FACE. ARE YOU REALLY A PRISONER OF THE TOP OF YOUR TICKET? I MEAN IF TOM VILSACK AND TOM HARKIN DO PRETTY WELL, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO PRETTY WELL? AND IF THEY DON'T, YOU'VE GOT SOME PROBLEMS ON YOUR HANDS?

Miller: YOU KNOW, I'D BE GLAD TO BE A PRISONER OF THE TOP OF OUR TICKET. TOM HARKIN AND TOM VILSACK ARE TERRIFIC PUBLIC OFFICIALS. THEY RUN GOOD CAMPAIGNS. THEY HAVE LEADS. THEY DESERVE TO HAVE LEADS. THEY'LL LIKELY WIN. BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE VOTE INDEPENDENTLY FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED, I GOT 56 PERCENT OF THE VOTE, AND THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GOT 60 PERCENT OF THE VOTE, SO THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF VARIETY DOWN THE BOARD. BUT I WOULD TAKE MY CHANCES WITH THE TWO TOMs HERE.

Glover: REPRESENTATIVE MILLAGE, DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE A PRISONER OF THE TOP OF YOUR TICKET?

Millage: NO, I DON'T. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TWO TOMs. THERE'S REALLY THREE TOMs THAT ARE INCUMBENTS: TOM MILLER, TOM VILSACK, TOM HARKIN. I'VE MADE LIGHT OF THAT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, THAT WE NEED TO START A NEW LAW FIRM INDES MOINES CALLED THE THREE TOMs, THOSE THREE TOMs. BUT, NO, I'M PROUD TO RUN ON THE TICKET WITH GREG GANSKE, DOUG GROSS, AND ALL THE CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES. I THINK WE HAVE A FINE CROP OF PEOPLE AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET, AND I'M PROUD TO BE RUNNING WITH THEM. AND I'M PROUD TO BE RUNNING WITH THE STATEWIDE SLATE AS WELL.

Glover: MR. NOYSE, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BIG-NAME TOP OF THE TICKET OUT THERE TRYING TO TURN OUT VOTES FOR YOU?

Noyse: THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS -- AND I SAY ACTUALLY THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE IN AMERICA IS WITH THE POLITICAL PROCESS ITSELF. THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE IS NOT BEING EXPRESSED. WHEN A MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE NOT REGISTERING AS EITHER DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN, GIVING UP THEIR RIGHTS TO VOTE IN PRIMARIES, THEY'RE MAKING A STATEMENT. THOSE VOICES ARE MARGINALIZED IN THE MEDIA, AS MY VOICE, CLYDE CLEVELAND'S VOICE, AND THE OTHER THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN MARGINALIZED.

Glover: MR. FITZGERALD, CAN I EXPECT TO SEE YOU DOWN AT TOM HARKIN'S HEADQUARTERS LATER TONIGHT WORKING THE PHONES?

Fitzgerald: I'LL DO ANYTHING I CAN TO HELP TOM HARKIN GET REELECTED.

Glover: ARE YOU DEPENDENT ON HIM?

Fitzgerald: WHAT'S THAT?

Glover: ARE YOU DEPENDENT ON HIM?

Fitzgerald: NO, I'M NOT. I THINK THAT IT CERTAINLY HELPS THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET, AND WE HAVE A STRONG DEMOCRATIC TICKET THIS YEAR. BUT I'VE BEEN ELECTED FIVE TIMES, FOUR TIMES WITH A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR WINNING THE STATEWIDE GOVERNORSHIP. SO IOWANS ARE INDEPENDENT. IF YOU PROVE TO IOWANS THAT YOU CAN SERVE THEM, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, THEY'LL RESPOND AND YOU'LL GET YOUR VOTE.

Glover: MR. WHITAKER, IT'S A TOUGH CHORE FOR CANDIDATES DOWN AND ABOUT WHO ARE RUNNING STATEWIDE. YOU TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES. YOU TYPICALLY DON'T GET A LOT OF ATTENTION. HOW DO YOU CARVE OUT YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY AND NOT BECOME A PRISONER OF THE TOP OF THE TICKET?

Whitaker: WELL, I'VE WORKED VERY HARD AND TRAVELED THE STATE. AND I'VE BEEN A VERY LOUD VOICE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE LOUD AND SOMETIMES AS BIG AS I DO TO GET SOME ATTENTION. AND I THINK I'VE DONE THAT AND I'VE WORKED VERY HARD. MIKE IS RIGHT; HE'S WON FIVE ELECTIONS AND I AM AN UNDERDOG. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE TEAM. AND EVERY MEMBER OF THAT TEAM NEEDS TO PULL THEIR WEIGHT IN ORDER TO WIN. AND I KNOW THAT I'M PULLING MY WEIGHT, AND I CERTAINLY HAVE A TEAM AND EXPECT TO WIN IN NOVEMBER.

Glover: MR. HIRD, YOU DON'T HAVE A TEAM. IS THAT A PROBLEM FOR YOU?

Hird: THIS -- THIS -- MY CAMPAIGN IS AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN FOR MYSELF AND AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN FOR THE VOTERS TO SEE THE LIBERTARIAN NAME OUT THERE AND TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LIBERTARIANS ARE ALL ABOUT IN THEIR DRIVE FOR SMALLER GOVERNMENT AND LESS TAXES.

Glover: OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I'M AFRAID WE'RE OUT OF TIME. THANKS TO EACH OF YOU FOR BRINGING YOUR CAMPAIGN PERSPECTIVES. THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION IS THE THIRD OF FIVE CANDIDATE FORUMS THIS WEEK ON IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION. THUS FAR, WE'VE HEARD FROM CANDIDATES SEEKING OFFICE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE, FOR AUDITOR OF IOWA, FOR SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE, FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL, AND FOR TREASURER OF IOWA.TOMORROW EVENING WE SHIFT GEARS A BIT. AT 6.30 P.M., LIVE FROM OUR IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION STUDIOS, WE DISCUSS THE CAMPAIGN OF 2002 WITH CANDIDATES SEEKING TO REPRESENT IOWA IN WASHINGTON D.C. IN THE U.S. SENATE AND THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.AND AT 7 P.M. OUR FOCUS SHIFTS TO CANDIDATES WHO ARE ON THE BALLOT AND CAMPAIGNING FOR GOVERNOR OF IOWA AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF IOWA. IT WILL BE ONE FULL HOUR OF POLICY AND POLITICS HERE ON STATEWIDE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION.AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS EVENING'S CANDIDATE FORUM, "CAMPAIGN 2002."I'M MIKE GLOVER OF THE "ASSOCIATED PRESS." THANKS FOR JOINING US. FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PROVIDED BY "FRIENDS," THE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION FOUNDATION... GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES AND FRIENDS WHO FEEL PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THEY WATCH ON IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION.


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