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Iowa Press Special: The Post-Election

posted on November 6, 2002

Borg: THE CAMPAIGNS ARE OVER. THE 2002 GENERAL ELECTION IS HISTORY. WE REVIEW THE RESULTS AND CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS WITH OUR TEAM OF POLITICAL AND LEGISLATIVE REPORTERS ON THIS SPECIAL EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS."

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ON STATEWIDE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION, THIS IS THE WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 6 EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS." HERE IS DEAN BORG.

Borg: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS LIVE SPECIAL EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS," A POSTSCRIPT, IF YOU WILL, ON THE EVENTS OF THE LAST TWENTY-FOUR HOURS OUT ON THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE. WE KNOW BY NOW THAT THE PROGNOSTICATORS WERE WRONG. LATE IN THE CAMPAIGN, POLITICAL OBSERVERS WERE SAYING THAT THE GENERAL ELECTION OF 2002 WAS SHAPING UP TO BE A DEMOCRATIC YEAR. WELL, THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED ACROSS THE NATION. IN FACT, NOT ONLY A REPUBLICAN YEAR BUT SOME OF THOSE SAME POLITICAL OBSERVERS ARE CALLING IT HISTORIC, ON THE PAR WITH THE REAGAN LANDSLIDE OF 1980 AND THE REPUBLICAN TAKEOVER OF THE CONGRESS IN 1994, UNPRECEDENTED, THEY SAY, IN AN OFF-YEAR ELECTION FOR A SITTING PRESIDENT. CLOSER TO HOME HERE IN IOWA, THE FORM CHARTS HELD UP. THE INCUMBENTS AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET WON REELECTION BY CONVINCING MARGINS. THE 80TH IOWA GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL LOOK PRETTY MUCH LIKE THE 79TH. IN THE IOWA SENATE, REPUBLICANS STILL HOLD, AS YOU SEE, AN EIGHT-SEAT ADVANTAGE. DEMOCRATS GAINED TWO SEATS IN THE HOUSE, BUT THE REPUBLICANS CARRY AN EIGHT-VOTE MAJORITY THERE. WELL, AGAINST THAT BACKDROP, WE'VE CONVENED OUR TEAM OF BLEARY-EYED REPORTERS FOR COMMENTS ON WHAT HAPPENED AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT HAPPENED. HERE'S DAVID YEPSEN, POLITICAL COLUMNIST WITH "THE DES MOINES REGISTER"; KAY HENDERSON, NEWS DIRECTOR WITH "RADIO IOWA"; "ASSOCIATED PRESS" SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER MIKE GLOVER; AND KATHIE OBRADOVICH, STATEHOUSE BUREAU CHIEF FOR "THE LEE NEWSPAPERS." KATHIE, I'M GOING TO ASK EACH OF YOU QUICKLY TO GIVE ME SOME INSTANT INSIGHT, IF YOU WILL. IN A WORD OR A PHRASE, SUMMARIZE WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY. KATHIE?

Obradovich: A PHRASE? IOWANS LOVE INCUMBENTS.

Borg: KAY?

Henderson: A WORD? BUSHWHACKED.

Borg: MIKE?

Glover: STATUS QUO. NO CHANGE.

Borg: DAVE?

Yepsen: INCUMBENTS. INCUMBENTS WIN.

Borg: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL EXPAND ON THAT, THEN. BUT FIRST OF ALL, VOTER TURNOUT. IT WAS A NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN. EVERYBODY COMPLAINED, OR AT LEAST I THOUGH EVERYBODY DID. THERE WAS SO MUCH NOISE ABOUT NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING, KATHIE, BUT VOTERS TURNED OUT.

Obradovich: YEAH, AND MAYBE IN RECORD NUMBERS. IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE OVER A MILLION IOWANS VOTED. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 950,000 IN '98, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS THE HIGH FOR A MIDTERM ELECTION IN A NONPRESIDENTIAL YEAR. SO, YEAH, IT DEFINITELY TURNED OUT, EVEN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BAD WEATHER THROWN IN, A LITTLE BIT OF SNOW. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THAT OTHER THAN I'D HAVE TO SAY THAT THE NEGATIVE ADS DIDN'T HAVE THE EFFECT OF DRIVING DOWN VOTER TURNOUT LIKE HISTORICALLY THEY HAVE HAD. MAYBE BECAUSE THERE WERE TOO MANY OF THEM AND THEY COULDN'T HAVE AS MUCH IMPACT. MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE TURNED THE CHANNEL AND WATCHED CABLE. I DON'T KNOW.

Glover: I DON'T OFTEN GET ON MY CIVIC SOAPBOX, AS IT WERE. I'M PROBABLY TOO MUCH OF A CYNIC FOR THAT. BUT I THINK THE REAL WINNER IN THIS ELECTION WAS THE IOWA ELECTORATE. THEY WADED THROUGH A TON OF NEGATIVE TV. THEY WADED THROUGH A LOT OF CAMPAIGNS THAT HAD NOT A LOT OF SUBSTANCE TO THEM, AND THEY SHOWED UP IN NEAR RECORD NUMBERS. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED DOWN THE BALLOT, THEY WERE PRETTY DISCERNING. THE STATEHOUSE RACES, LIKE THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL SEATS, WHERE YOU DON'T SEE MUCH CHANGE, YOU SAW VOTE TOTALS ALL OVER THE MAP, WHICH TELLS YOU THAT AT LEAST A BIG SLICE OF THE ELECTORATE LISTENED TO WHAT THESE CANDIDATES WERE SAYING AND VOTED ALONG OTHER LINES, NOT JUST PARTY LINES.

Borg: KAY, THE TOP OF THE TICKET DIDN'T FOLLOW EXACTLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING ACROSS THE NATION. NOW, I'VE SAID IT'S A REPUBLIC YEAR ACROSS THE NATION, BUT TOM HARKIN, WASN'T THAT HIS BIGGEST MARGIN EVER? I'M NOT SURE ON THAT.

Henderson: YES, IT WAS. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED HERE, DEMOCRATS REALLY DID A WONDERFUL GET-OUT-THE-VOTE JOB. THEY GOT A LOT OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS, 108,000 BY THEIR ACCOUNT. THAT REALLY PUT REPUBLICANS BACK ON THEIR HEELS. ON ELECTION NIGHT, YOU HAD CHUCK LARSON, JR., THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PARTY, CALLING FOR CHANGES IN ABSENTEE BALLOT. I THINK THAT REPUBLICANS, IF THEY GO DOWN THAT ROAD, WILL BE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE, BECAUSE I THINK VOTERS LOVE THE CONVENIENCE OF ABSENTEE BALLOTING IN THE SAME WAY THEY LOVE THE CONVENIENCE OF OPEN ENROLLMENT, SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE THEIR KIDS TO THEIR SCHOOL THAT'S CLOSEST TO THEM AND THEIR DAILY LIVES. I THINK THAT IF REPUBLICANS GO DOWN THIS PATH OF TRYING TO PULL BACK IOWANS' ABILITY TO VOTE WHEN THEY WANT TO IN THEIR HOME BY ABSENTEE BALLOT OR THESE EARLY VOTE POLLING SITES, WHICH ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE POPULAR, I THINK REPUBLICANS WILL BE MAKING A GRAVE MISTAKE.

Yepsen: WELL, IF NOTHING ELSE, I THINK ABSENTEE BALLOTS WERE ABUSED, BUT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE WE HAVE A SPLIT LEGISLATURE, GOVERNOR. THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD EVER GET CHANGE IN THE ABSENTEE BALLOT LAWS SIGNED BY TOM VILSACK. THE THING THAT DROVE TURNOUT WAS NOT ONLY THE DEMOCRATS DOING THEIR THING, WHICH WAS A VERY IMPRESSIVE EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SELLING AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT I THINK REPUBLICANS DID FIGURE OUT ABOUT A MONTH OUT THAT THEY WERE IN SOME TROUBLE AND THEN THEY TRIED THEIR OWN EFFORT. IT WAS NOT AS GOOD AS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS DID, BUT THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE HEALTHY TURNOUT HERE AND EXPLAINS PART OF THE REASON WHY REPUBLICANS HAD A GOOD DAY NATIONALLY, BUT IN IOWA DEMOCRATS LED THE TOP OF THE TICKET. I DO WANT TO DISAGREE WITH MIKE ON ONE THING WHEN HE SAYS THE ELECTORATE WON. I THINK THE BIG WINNER IN THE ELECTION WERE THE TELEVISION STATIONS OF IOWA. THEY MADE A LOT OF MONEY. THEY MADE MORE MONEY THAN YOU GUYS. [ LAUGHTER ]

Borg: KATHIE?

Obradovich: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT THERE'S ALSO STRENGTH IN NUMBERS AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1934 THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAD BOTH A U.S. SENATOR AND AN INCUMBENT GOVERNOR ON THE BALLOT. I THINK THEY DID HAVE A COORDINATED CAMPAIGN THAT MADE USE OF THAT STRENGTH VERY WELL. BUT ALSO, IT HELPS ENERGIZE THE PARTY AND THE GET-OUT-THE-VOTE EFFORT AS WELL.

Glover: THIS WAS A HISTORIC ELECTION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANOTHER ONE LIKE THIS FOR A LONG TIME. THINK OF THE NUMBER OF COMPETITIVE ELECTIONS -- HIGH-PROFILE, COMPETITIVE ELECTIONS WE HAD THIS YEAR: THE UNITED STATES SENATE, GOVERNOR, FOUR CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS, TEN HOT GAMBLING REFERENDUMS AROUND THE STATE, A BIG FIGHT FOR THE LEGISLATURE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING IN TWO YEARS? WATCHING CHUCK GRASSLEY'S CORONATION? I MEAN, HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE THAT MANY ELECTIONS? I THINK THAT HELPED DRIVE VOTER TURNOUT. THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE COULD TUNE INTO.

Borg: WAS THAT BECAUSE OF REDISTRICTING? DID THAT PLAY INTO IT?

Glover: ACTUALLY, WE'VE SAID THAT WE THINK REPUBLICANS MADE A MISTAKE WITH REDISTRICTING BECAUSE THEY CREATED A BIG WESTERN IOWA DISTRICT AND THEN FOUR MORE THAT ARE VERY COMPETITIVE. I THINK IN RETROSPECT, THEY MAY HAVE MADE A CALCULATION THAT THEY HAD FOUR -- OR THREE INCUMBENTS IN THE EASTERN TWO-THIRDS OF THE STATE. THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE THEM BAD DISTRICTS, GIVE THEM TOUGH DISTRICTS, AND BET THAT THE POWER OF INCUMBENCY WOULD CARRY THEM THROUGH. AND IN FACT, IN RETROSPECT, THEIR BET PAID OFF.

Yepsen: IT DID.

Borg: WHAT'S IT GOING TO MEAN? TOM HARKIN REELECTED, A COMFORTABLE MARGIN. IN FACT, IOWA FARM BUREAU ENDORSED HIM THINKING PROBABLY HE'S GOING TO RETAIN HIS CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE SENATE AG COMMITTEE, BUT HE'S NOT.

Yepsen: WELL, IOWA REALLY CAME OUT THE WINNER YESTERDAY, BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS TAKING THE U.S. SENATE MEANS THAT CHUCK GRASSLEY NOW BECOMES CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. AFTER TOM HARKIN HAS WRITTEN A FARM BILL THAT LASTS FOR TEN YEARS, YOU REALLY DON'T NEED A CHAIRMAN OF THE AG COMMITTEE ANYMORE. HE'LL STILL BE THE RANKING MEMBER WHERE HE CAN PROTECT ALL THOSE GOODIES THAT HE STUCK IN THAT FARM BILL FOR IOWA, SO I THINK THE STATE ECONOMY SURE WON NICELY YESTERDAY.

Glover: AND TOM HARKIN MAY HAVE GONE TO THE NEXT LEVEL. POLITICIANS, AFTER THEY'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE, GET THAT SORT OF RESERVOIR OF GOODWILL WITH VOTERS THAT MAKES THEM VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TOUCH. CHUCK GRASSLEY DEVELOPED IT. BOB RAY DEVELOPED IT. TERRY BRANSTAD DEVELOPED IT. TOM HARKIN HAS NEVER DEVELOPED IT. HE'S ALWAYS HAD A TOUGH 51/49, 52/48 ELECTION. WITH THIS ELECTION, HE MAY HAVE GONE TO THAT LEVEL WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE FINDING TOUGH GUYS TO RUN AGAINST HIML.

Obradovich: BUT INCUMBENTS ARE GOLDEN IN IOWA ANYWAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEGISLATURE, ONLY A HANDFUL OF INCUMBENTS GOT THROWN OUT ON EITHER SIDE OF THE AISLE, LESS THAN TEN. SO IN A YEAR WHEN REDISTRICTING AND CHANGE WAS REALLY THE DRIVING FORCE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE --

Yepsen: WELL, WHY WOULD VOTERS WANT TO CHANGE? WE TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY -- THIS ECONOMY IS -- WELL, THE IOWA ECONOMY IS DOING OKAY. THERE ARE RECORD AMOUNTS OF EMPLOYMENT. THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY OUT THERE, BUT THE STOCK MARKET IS HEADED UP. A LOT OF FARMERS HAD A FAIRLY DECENT CROP THIS YEAR. I MEAN I THINK THE REASON THINGS STAYED THE SAME IN IOWA IN POLITICS IS BECAUSE MOST IOWA VOTERS WANT THINGS TO STAY THE SAME IN THE STATE.

Borg: PERHAPS IT'S THE WRONG THING TO DO, TRY TO CHARACTERIZE IT IN THIS WAY, BUT WE SAY IT'S A REPUBLICAN YEAR ACROSS THE NATION. WAS IT A REPUBLICAN YEAR IN IOWA, OR WAS IT PRETTY MUCH STATUS QUO, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS EVENLY DIVIDED? OR COULD YOU SAY, MIKE, A DEMOCRATIC YEAR?

Glover: IT WAS A STATUS QUO YEAR, WHICH MEANS IT WAS GOOD FOR INCUMBENTS, GOOD FOR PEOPLE IN OFFICE OF BOTH PARTIES. LOOK AROUND. A DEMOCRATIC SENATOR GOT REELECTED VERY COMFORTABLY. A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR GOT REELECTED VERY COMFORTABLY. THREE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMEN GOT REELECTED VERY COMFORTABLY. A FOURTH REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN GOT ELECTED FAIRLY COMFORTABLY. REPUBLICANS HELD THEIR CLAIM ON THE LEGISLATURE, SO BOTH PARTIES HAVE VICTORIES THEY CAN POINT TO.

Henderson: I THINK MOST PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS STATE AND SEE THAT THERE ARE TWO COMPETITIVE POLITICAL PARTIES, AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. YOU HAD TERRY BRANSTAD AND TOM HARKIN WINNING IN THE EARLY '90S. YOU'VE HAD GOVERNOR TERRY BRANSTAD DEALING WITH A DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED LEGISLATURE. YOU'VE HAD GOVERN TOM VILSACK, A DEMOCRAT, DEALING WITH THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED LEGISLATURE. AND IN 19 -- IN THE YEAR 2000 GEORGE BUSH LOST THE STATE BY 4,000 VOTES. I DON'T THINK MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN. I THINK THAT WE'RE A STATE THAT HAS A STRONG REPUBLICAN PARTY AND A STRONG DEMOCRAT PARTY.

Glover: I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE'RE MAKING A LITTLE BIT OF A MISTAKE IN READING THE RETURNS TUESDAY, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS BEING A REFERENDUM ON PRESIDENT BUSH AND CAN HE HAVE CONTROL OF THE SENATE SO HE CAN ADVANCE HIS AGENDA. I DON'T THINK THE AVERAGE VOTER THINKS THAT WAY. I DON'T THINK THE AVERAGE VOTER LOOKS AT A TOM HARKIN/GREG GANSKE ELECTION AND SAYS, "GEE, I'VE GOT TO ELECT GREG GANSKE SO PRESIDENT BUSH CAN HAVE HIS AGENDA." I THINK THEY LOOK AT TOM HARKIN AND GREG GANSKE AND LOOK AT TWO POLITICIANS AND SAY, "WHICH ONE IS GOING TO HAVE THE IMPACT ON THINGS THAT I CARE ABOUT?"

Obradovich: THIS IS A MIXED BLESSING FOR PRESIDENT BUSH BECAUSE NOW HE REALLY HAS NO EXCUSES. HE HAS TO LEAD AND REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS HAVE TO LEAD. THEY DON'T HAVE THE OTHER PARTY TO BLAME FOR BLOCKING THE ROAD ANYMORE. THAT, YOU KNOW, IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE PARTIES AS FOILS TO EACH OTHER, YOU'VE GOT FACTIONS WITHIN THE PARTIES AS FOILS TO EACH OTHER.

Yepsen: IT IS ALSO TRUE, THOUGH, THAT THE COMPETENCE OF THE CAMPAIGN HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WHO WINS. AND I THINK WE TALKED OUT HERE BEFORE ABOUT HOW THE REPUBLICANS REALLY HAD POOR CAMPAIGNS IN THE RACE FOR GOVERNOR AND IN THE RACE FOR SENATOR. ONE REASON THAT TOM HARKIN WON BIG WAS BECAUSE GREG GANSKE DID SO POORLY. YOU LOOK AT THE REPUBLICANS WHO WON ELECTIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY, JIM TALENT IN MISSOURI HAD A FAR BETTER CAMPAIGN. NORM COLEMAN HAD A FAR BETTER CAMPAIGN. THEY RAN ON A MESSAGE. THEY HAD A NATIONAL MESSAGE, WHERE THAT DIDN'T OCCUR IN IOWA. SO I THINK THAT ALSO HELPS EXPLAIN WHY WE HAD SORT OF THIS BIFURCATED RESULT OF IT, THE COUNTRY GOING ONE WAY, IOWA GOING THE OTHER.

Henderson: I THINK, ALSO, YOU SAW IN THOSE OTHER RACES IN THOSE OTHER STATES, PEOPLE ACTED LIKE GEORGE BUSH. THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT GEORGE BUSH. HE'S REALLY CONSERVATIVE WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIM PHILOSOPHICALLY. IT MAY BE ARTIFICE BUT THERE'S SOMETHING HUMAN ABOUT HIM.

Yepsen: HE'S LIKABLE, A VERY LIKABLE MAN.

Henderson: HE'S LIKABLE. AND IN THE TOP -- IN THE TOP OF THE REPUBLICAN TICKET, YOU HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT LIKABLE TO THE AVERAGE VOTER, DOUG GROSS, BECAUSE HE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH LARGE-SCALE LIVESTOCK OPERATIONS, AND GREG GANSKE NEVER HAD A RESERVOIR OF GOODWILL, GOOD FEELING AMONG REPUBLICANS THAT HE COULD BUILD UPON, JUST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT HUMANITY.

Glover: THE MORE I'M AROUND POLITICS, THE MORE I'M CONVINCED THAT EVERY ELECTION IS ABOUT RUNNING FOR CLASS PRESIDENT. IT'S NOT WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU THINK, WHAT DECISIONS YOU TAKE ON ISSUES, AS LONG AS YOU STAY IN THE MAINSTREAM. IT'S WHO PEOPLE LIKE AND WHO PEOPLE DON'T LIKE. IF YOU CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU OR CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE DISLIKE YOUR OPPONENT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WIN IN POLITICS.

Borg: STEVE KING, A VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN, IS THE ONLY NEW PERSON IN THE IOWA CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION. EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOING BACK. DOES THAT STRIKE YOU AS SURPRISING AT ALL?

Glover: THAT STEVE KING WON IN THE FIFTH DISTRICT? [ LAUGHTER ]

Borg: NO, NOT THAT HE WON BECAUSE THAT'S HEAVILY REPUBLICAN.

Yepsen: WHAT WAS SURPRISING TO ME WAS THAT THE DEMOCRATS MADE NO GAINS IN CONGRESS. BOTH PARTIES ARE IN THIS PERIOD OF INTROSPECTION NOW WHERE REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING, "WHAT WENT WRONG IN THE SENATE RACE AND THE RACE FOR GOVERNOR?" AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING, "WHY DIDN'T WE KNOCK OFF AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE REPUBLICANS CONGRESSMEN?"

Borg: AND THAT'S WHY I SAY WAS THAT SURPRISING AT ALL, BECAUSE IN THE FIRST DISTRICT, JIM NUSSLE, THAT RACE WAS VERY TIGHT WITH ANN HUTCHINSON, AND CERTAINLY IN THE SECOND DISTRICT JIM LEACH AND JULIE THOMAS, VERY CLOSE.

Yepsen: HERE AGAIN, DEAN, WHO RAN THE BETTER CAMPAIGN? WHO HAD THE COMPETENT CAMPAIGN? HOW MANY CAMPAIGN MANAGERS DID ANN HUTCHINSON GO THROUGH?

Henderson: AND WHO HAD THE COIN? I MEAN NATIONAL REPULICANS DECIDED THEY WANTED THE CONGRESS AND THEY WERE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY TO DO IT. THEY CAME IN HERE AND SPENT A LOT OF MONEY IN THOSE RACES.

Glover: I'VE NEVER COVERED CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN EVER WHERE BOTH CANDIDATES HAD A MILLION DOLLARS. IN THOSE FOUR RACES, BOTH CANDIDATES HAD A MILLION DOLLARS TO SPEND, NOT COUNTING THE BOATLOAD OF SOFT MONEY THAT GOT DUMPED ON THEM. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT VERY MANY CONGRESSIONAL RACES IN AMERICA THAT WERE COMPETITIVE. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY COMPETITIVE CONGRESSIONAL RACES CALIFORNIA HAD? ONE. IOWA HAD PROBABLY ONE-SIXTH --

Yepsen: BUT, SEE, EVERYBODY KNEW THAT THAT WAS THE CASE. JULIE THOMAS I THOUGHT RAN A VERY GOOD CAMPAIGN, BUT SHE, ARGUABLY, PEAKED TOO SOON. REPUBLICANS, IT WAS A MONTH OUT, THEY COULD SEE THOSE NUMBERS TIGHTENING UP AND THEY COUNTERATTACKED. SO WHILE AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S A STATUS-QUO ELECTION, IT WAS VERY COMPETITIVE AND EVERYBODY POURED IN THEIR RESOURCES.

Borg: THERE WERE MORE WOMEN CANDIDATES -- I INTERRUPTED YOU. GO AHEAD, KATHIE.

Obradovich: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY BUT JULIE THOMAS ENDED UP NOT EVEN WINNING HER HOME COUNTY. I THINK THAT WAS THE CASE IN ALL OF THESE ELECTIONS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE GOING TO BE SO COMPETITIVE. THEY ENDED UP NOT BEING VERY COMPETITIVE AT THE END. JOHN NORRIS DIDN'T WIN ANY COUNTIES, I DON'T THINK. I THINK STAN THOMPSON ONLY WON A FEW RURAL COUNTIES. SO THEY ENDED UP BEING NOT REALLY ALL THAT COMPETITIVE AT ALL.

Borg: THERE WERE MORE WOMEN CANDIDATES. WE'VE MENTIONED THOMAS AND HUTCHINSON THERE. THERE WERE ACROSS THE BOARD MORE WOMEN CANDIDATES. HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO ANALYZE YET HOW THEY FARED OVERALL BY GENDER?

Yepsen: I WAS TALKING TODAY WITH LEANNE BURNETT, WHO HEADED THE EFFORT TO ELECT MORE WOMEN TO THE LEGISLATURE, AND IT WAS A WASH. THERE WERE 33 WOMEN IN THE LEGISLATURE GOING INTO TUESDAY, AND THERE ARE 33 NOW. THEY HAD RECRUITED MORE CANDIDATES BUT THEY DID NOT FARE PARTICULARLY WELL.

Borg: I GAVE A SHORT SYNOPSIS AS I INTRODUCED THE PROGRAM HERE ON HOW THE LEGISLATURE MAKEUP WILL BE, MIKE. HOW DO YOU SEE THE TENOR UP THERE THIS TIME?

Glover: I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DECIDED YET. I THINK WE'RE STILL SORT OF -- EVERYBODY IS KIND OF SITTING AROUND AND LOOKING AT THE ELECTION. YOU HAVE A GOVERNOR WHO GOT REELECTED. THIS LEGISLATURE SPENT TWO YEARS HAVING THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY SOFTENING HIM UP TO BEAT HIM IN TUESDAY'S ELECTION, AND THEY FAILED. THEY DIDN'T BEAT HIM; HE WON. I THINK THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF THE SAME SORT OF IN-YOUR-FACE BABBLING GOING ON, BUT I THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AT THE LEVEL IT WAS HEADING INTO THIS. I THINK THERE'S -- I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME EFFORT TO FIND SOME GROUND THEY CAN AGREE ON AND, AT LEAST IN THE FIRST YEAR, MAKE A LITTLE PROGRESS.

Henderson: WHEN TOM VILSACK FIRST WON RELECTION, REPUBLICANS CONTROLLED THE LEGISLATURE AND RON CORBETT, WHO AT THE TIME WAS HOUSE SPEAKER, SAID, "OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM HIS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH CLASS SIZES. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM THE NUMBER ONE THING TALKED ABOUT OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL." THE PROBLEM THIS TIME AROUND IS VILSACK HAD SUCH A MUDDLED MESSAGE. WHAT WAS HIS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY? I CAN LIST TEN THINGS THAT HE TALKED ABOUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IS NUMBER ONE FOR HIM, BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY, "WHAT'S NUMBER ONE," HE'LL TELL YOU THREE THINGS. SO I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE THE PROBLEM FOR HIM IS DECIDING WHAT'S NUMBER ONE AND THEN GOING UP TO THE LEGISLATURE AND THE LEGISLATURE SAYING, "OKAY, YOU'VE GOT A MANDATE, WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU."

Obradovich: I WAS GOING TO SAY TODAY, THOUGH, HE CAME OUT AND MADE A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS BY TAKING THOSE TEN THINGS AND BOILING THEM DOWN TO THREE. OUT OF THOSE THREE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THE STATE'S GROWTH AND ECONOMY, IS ONE THING THAT WE KNOW THAT BOTH PARTIES CAN GET BEHIND. I THINK THAT WILL BE AT LEAST ONE THING THAT WILL COME OUT OF THIS FIRST GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

Yepsen: MAYBE THIS IS WHERE I'M NOT CYNICAL ENOUGH, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A YEAR WHERE THIS WILL BE A MORE PEACEFUL, HARMONIOUS RELATIONSHIP.

Borg: WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?

Yepsen: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, TOM VILSACK IS NOT GOING TO RUN FOR REELECTION. REPUBLICANS ALL KNOW THAT. THEY HAVE NO MORE REASON TO SOFTEN HIM UP. SECONDLY, HE EARNED SOME RESPECT FROM THEM. THEY WENT AT HIM HARD AND THEY STILL COULDN'T BEAT HIM. WHEN HE FIRST WAS ELECTED, THEY ALWAYS THOUGHT, WELL, HE'S A JOKE, HE'S A FLUKE, BECAUSE LIGHTFOOT WAS SUCH AN AWFUL CANDIDATE. WELL, TOM VILSACK THRASHED THEM AND I THINK THEY GOT SOME RESPECT THERE. DEAN, THREE TIMES NOW IOWA VOTERS HAVE SAID, "WE WANT A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE AND WE WANT A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR." THEY SAID THAT IN '98, THEY SAID THAT IN 2000, AND THEY SAID THAT IN '02. AT SOME POINT THE POLITICIANS UP THERE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE VOTERS OF IOWA WANT US TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER. SO TODAY THE GOVERNOR WAS SAYING, "I'M GOING TO TRY TO REACH OUT AND LEAD INFORMALLY WITH PEOPLE." I THINK HE'S GOT A YEAR TO TRY TO GET SOME THINGS DONE BEFORE WE START INTO THE LEGISLATIVE CAMPAIGNS OF '04 AND BEFORE HE STARTS TO BECOME A LAME DUCK.

Borg: HOW DO THOSE PRIORITIES THAT KAY WAS TALKING ABOUT MESH WITH WHAT YOU THINK THE PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO BE OF THE REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED IOWA LEGISLATURE?

Glover: THE PRIORITIES THAT THE GOVERNOR TALKED ABOUT ARE EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, AND REINVIGORATING THE ECONOMY. I'D LIKE TO TAKE A POLL OF POLITICIANS THAT ARE AGAINST ANY OF THOSE THINGS. NOW, WHETHER THE SPECIFIC IDEAS HE COMES UP WITH ARE PALATABLE UPSTAIRS, I DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS IDEAS ARE. BUT, YEAH, I THINK IF HE COMES IN, GIVES HIS CONDITION OF THE STATE SPEECH, AND SAYS, "I WANT TO FOCUS ON REMODELING HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE STATE AND MAKING A SEAMLESS K-13 EDUCATION SYSTEM IN IOWA," OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK HE'LL HAVE A LOT OF REPUBLICAN LEGISLATIVE LEADERS SAY, "YEAH, WE'LL WORK WITH HIM ON THAT."

Borg: BUT THE BIGGEST STATUS QUO UP THERE, KATHIE -- AND THE STATUS QUO I'M TALKING ABOUT IS NO MONEY.

Obradovich: RIGHT. THAT IS GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT. WHETHER YOU THOUGHT THE BUDGET DEFICIT WAS A BILLION DOLLARS, LIKE DOUG GROSS SAID, OR YOU THINK THAT THE ECONOMY IS TURNING UP, LIKE TOM VILSACK SAID, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE STATE'S EXPENSES ARE A LOT MORE THAN WHAT THE MONEY IS COMING IN. AS YOU'RE TRYING TO REBUILD THE ECONOMY, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE, FUND THOSE, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CUT. AND THAT'S REALLY VERY DIFFICULT. IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXTREMELY HARD LESSON FOR ALL THESE NEW LEGISLATORS COMING IN WHO THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND ALL OF THEIR PET PROGRAMS.

Glover: PREDICTION ONE: THE BUDGET DEFICIT WILL GO AWAY. THE BUDGET CRUNCH WILL END IN JANUARY.

Borg: WHY?

Glover: BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED A BUDGET CRUNCH ANYMORE, DEAN? THE ELECTION IS OVER. ALL OF THIS BORROWING FROM FUNDS AND SHIFTING MONEY AROUND, THEY CAN DO THAT NOW. AND IT'S A WHOLE LOT LESS PAINFUL THAN TRYING TO CONFRONT A GOVERNOR AND CUT SPENDING AND LAY OFF WORKERS. "YEAH, WE'LL BORROW FROM THAT FUND, SURE."

Yepsen: I THINK THEREIN LIES THE REASON WHY IT IS GOING TO STILL BE A CRISIS. THEY DID -- THEY WENT OUT AND THEY STOLE FROM ALL THOSE FUNDS TO MAKE THE BUDGETS LOOK GOOD FOR AN ELECTION YEAR. NOW THEY GO BACK, THE CUPBOARD IS BARE, SO WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE BUDGET WOODS YET.

Borg: KAY, IT SEEMS THAT HISTORY IS THAT WE GET ONE ELECTION OUT OF THE WAY AND WE MAYBE TAKE A BREATH OR TWO AND WE'RE INTO SOMETHING ELSE. STATE POLITICAL PARTIES HAVE TO ANALYZE WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY AND THE THINGS THEY DID. WHAT ARE SOME LESSONS YOU THINK THAT THE IOWA POLITICAL PARTIES CAN TAKE AWAY FROM YESTERDAY?

Henderson: I THINK THE IOWA REPUBLICAN PARTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT IT NEEDS TO ENTER TH NEXT CENTURY IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING VOTERS AND GETTING THEM TO THE POLLS. I THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE NATIONAL DEBATE ABOUT WHAT IS OUR SOUL, WHAT DO WE STAND FOR, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SELL NEXT TIME IN 2004. I THINK WE ALL SAW A LITTLE PRELUDE TO THAT AT THE JEFFERSON/JACKSON DAY DINNER EARLIER THIS FALL. YOU HAD JOHN KERRY, JOHN EDWARDS, AND HOWARD DEAN THERE. AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AND TROTTING OUT IDEAS TO SEE WHAT RESONATES WITH VOTERS TO SEE WHAT SORT OF BIG IDEAS -- I THINK DEMOCRATS AT THIS POINT ARE LOOKING FOR "THE" BIG IDEA, SOMETHING THAT AMERICANS WILL SEIZE ON AND SAY DEMOCRATS CARE ABOUT THAT. AND DEMOCRATS ARE THE ONES THAT CAN DELIVER, NOT REPUBLICANS.

Yepsen: BOTH PARTIES, DEAN, ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH A DEBATE OVER WHETHER ELECTIONS ARE WON IN THE CENTER OR ON THE EXTREME. IN IOWA, THE REPUBLICANS DID NOT WIN THE SENATE RACE AND THE GOVERNORSHIP, AND SO THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT IS THEIR MESSAGE. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING YOU CAN'T DO -- AND GREG GANSKE PROVED IT -- YOU CAN'T SPEND THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF A CAMPAIGN TALKING ABOUT CLONING AND ABORTION, BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY SCARE OFF WOMEN VOTERS. NATIONALLY, IT'S THE FLIP OF THAT, DEAN. IT'S DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE TO HAVE A PERIOD OF INTROSPECTION HERE TO DECIDE JUST WHAT IS IT WE STAND FOR: ARE WE IN THE CENTER OR DO WE NEED TO BE MORE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM? THERE WILL BE A LOT OF ARGUMENTS HERE. AND KAY IS RIGHT: THE DEMOCRATIC ARGUMENT NATIONALLY IS GOING TO START GETTING PLAYED OUT IN THIS STATE WITH THE CAUCUS CANDIDATES COMING IN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

Glover: THERE ARE A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF THAT: THE MARYLAND GOVERNOR'S RACE AND THE SENATE RACE IN GEORGIA. BOTH OF THOSE CANDIDATES KATHLEEN KENNEDY TOWNSEND AND MAX CLELAND IN GEORGIA BOTH RELY ON HEAVY AFRICAN-AMERICAN TURNOUT TO WIN IN WHAT ARE TRADITIONALLY HEAVILY DEMOCRATIC STATES, AND NEITHER ONE OF THEM GOT IT. WHAT YOU HEARD WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING THAT DEMOCRATS WEREN'T OFFERING SOMETHING TO ENERGIZE THAT DEMOCRATIC BASE, THAT THEY WEREN'T FIRING UP THAT DEMOCRATIC BASE. CLINTON HAD A MAGIC FORMULA. SOMEHOW HE COULD RUN AS A CENTRIST CANDIDATE ON CENTRIST POSITIONS, BUT HE HAD AN ALMOST CHEMICAL LINK WITH THAT BASE TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, LIBERALS, PEOPLE LIKE THAT, WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF STIFF THEM ON THE ISSUES BUT STILL PULL THEM IN. HE'S GREAT AT TURNING BLACK VOTERS.

Obradovich: PEOPLE SHOULD BE REVIEWING THAT VIDEOTAPE OF THE PAUL WELLSTONE MEMORIAL. IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE MUCH MORE EMOTION INTO WHAT ULTIMATELY WAS A POLITICAL RALLY. IT WILL BE INTERESTING -- ESPECIALLY THOSE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PARTY TO TALK ABOUT IS WHETHER THOSE ARE THE VALUES THAT REALLY DO ENERGIZE.

Glover: WALTER MONDALE WAS FURIOUS BECAUSE HE THINKS IT COST HIM THE ELECTION.

Henderson: BUT BACK TO DAVID'S POINT ABOUT THE DEBATE HAPPENING IN IOWA. THE REASON THAT DEMOCRATS DIDN'T GET ENERGIZED AND AT THE END OF THE CAMPAIGN YOU SAW DEMOCRATS ASKING AL GORE AND BILL CLINTON TO GO DOWN TO FLORIDA TO HELP THEIR CANDIDATE TRY TO BEAT JEB BUSH, THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT ENERGIZES PEOPLE YET. JOHN KERRY, MAYBE. HE GOT A GOOD RECEPTIONS HE'S KIND OF WELL KNOWN BUT THEY NEED TO FIND A VOICE. THEY NEED TO FIND A PICTURE. THEY NEED TO FIND SOMETHING THAT ENERGIZES VOTERS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.

Yepsen: AND, DEAN, BOTH PARTIES IN IOWA ARE GOING TO RIGHT NOW, TODAY, TONIGHT, ARE STARTING THE TALK, THE BUZZ, WHO IS GOING TO BE OUR CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR. THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE MARKET FOR ONE BECAUSE TOM VILSACK ISN'T RUNNING AGAIN, AND SO THERE WILL BE TALK ABOUT THAT. AND CERTAINLY REPUBLICANS HAVE A WEAK BENCH AND ARE IN NEED OF TRYING TO FIND SOME FRESH CANDIDATE WHO CAN COME IN AND START TO ENERGIZE VOTERS IN IOWA.

Glover: SPEAKING OF THE FRESH FACE, THE FRESH VOICE, I THINK BOTH PARTIES RECOGNIZE THAT ANY ELECTION IN THIS STATE WHEN YOU LOSE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IS, BY DEFINITION, A LOSING ELECTION. AND A MORE MUNDANE THING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOTH PARTIES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS FIGURE OUT A WAY AROUND THIS CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW. YESTERDAY WAS THE LAST ELECTION WHERE SOFT MONEY WAS ALLOWED. IT'S BANNED NOW TODAY. BOTH PARTIES ARE GOING TO START LOOKING FOR WAYS AROUND IT. MY BET IS THEY'LL FIND IT.

Henderson: AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS HAD SORT OF A GLASS CEILING, NOT ABOUT WOMEN BUT ABOUT THE TOP OF THE TEAM, THE PEOPLE WHO GET TO PLAY, GET TO GO OUT ON THE HARDWOOD. YOU'VE GOT CHUCK GRASSLEY, YOU'VE GOT TERRY BRANSTAD AND HIS CRONIES. AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LET SOMEBODY ELSE OUT THERE AND TAKE A SHOT, AND THEY HAVEN'T.

Glover: ELECTIONS -- KAY TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER AND I AGREE WITH IT. ELECTIONS -- WINNING ELECTIONS ARE ABOUT EXPANDING THE TENT, GETTING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE TENT. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE SHOWN A TREND OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS OF TRYING TO, SORT OF, NUDGE PEOPLE OUT. THAT'S WHAT THIS ABSENTEE BALLOT THING YOU WERE REFERRING TO EARLIER. AS A PARTY, I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT ABSENTEE BALLOTS. I WANT TO GET MORE ABSENTEE BALLOTS TO MY PEOPLE.

Yepsen: I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING, THE DEMOCRATS FIGURED OUT THEY'VE GOT THE FLIP OF THAT PROBLEM. THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ALWAYS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ATTRACTING MALE VOTERS. DEMOCRATS WORKED ON THAT. AFTER THE SNIPER YOU DID NOT HEAR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES CALLING FOR GUN CONTROL. THEY WERE SILENT. WHAT DID YOU SEE? INSTEAD YOU SAW DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES WITH THEIR SHOTGUNS, AND THE GOVERNOR WAS OUT HUNTING WITH HIS SON. WHY? BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING AFTER MALE VOTERS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREELECTION POLLS, DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET WERE DOING BETTER AT GETTING MEN THAN REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES WERE AT GETTING WOMEN.

Borg: I WANT TO SQUEEZE THIS QUESTION IN HERE. YOU TALKED ABOUT FRESH FACES HAVING TO EMERGE HERE. ARE THERE SOME CANDIDATES WHO WERE DEFEATED YESTERDAY THAT MAY HAVE A POLITICAL FUTURE YET?

Glover: STAN THOMPSON.

Borg: STAN THOMPSON?

Glover: GOOD-LOOKING, YOUNG CANDIDATE. HE RAN AN ENERGETIC CAMPAIGN. HE HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF HAVING AN INCUMBENT MOVE INTO THE DISTRICT, AND INCUMBENTS GET REHIRED. BUT I THINK HE'S GOT A FUTURE.

Yepsen: YEAH. I THINK DOUG GROSS COULD TOO, IF HE'D GET RID OF THIS HOG-LOT ODOR THAT'S ON HIM. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, DEAN, BECAUSE A LOT OF LOSERS ARE KIND OF DOWN IN THE DUMPS RIGHT NOW. IF YOU LOOK AT IOWA POLITICAL HISTORY, HAROLD HUGHES, HERSCHEL LOVELESS, NEAL SMITH, TOM HARKIN, BERKLEY BEDELL, A LOT OF FAMOUS NAMES GOT TO ELECTIVE OFFICE AFTER LOSING THE FIRST TIME OUT. SO THERE WILL BE SOME CANDIDATES KIND OF DUST THEMSELVES OFF AND RUN AGAIN.

Henderson: ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE, I THINK JOHN NORRIS IS CONSIDERED TO BE A RISING STAR. HE HAD ALWAYS BEEN BEHIND THE SCENES. THIS TIME HE WAS OUT IN FRONT, AND HE MADE A SURPRISINGLY STRONG CHALLENGE OF MR. LATHAM. AND ALSO, HE'S A TERRIFIC CAMPAIGNER.

Borg: LAST WORD, KATHIE.

Obradovich: I'LL THROW OUT MIKE OWEN WHO LOST TO DAN BODDICKER IN THE STATEHOUSE. I THINK HE HAS SOME TALENT. AND HE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN POLICY, SO HE'S A POSSIBILITY.

Borg: I'M SURE ALL THESE NAMES THAT YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED, YOU'VE REENERGIZED THOSE PEOPLE. THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ON OUR NEXT EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS," WE DISCUSS THE UPCOMING 108TH U.S. CONGRESS WITH THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE IOWA DELEGATION HEADING TO WASHINGTON D.C. JOINING US IS STATE SENATOR STEVE KING OF KIRON, WHO IS NOW CONGRESSMAN-ELECT STEVE KING. HE'LL REPRESENT WESTERN IOWA'S FIFTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN THE NATION'S CAPITAL. YOU'LL SEE THAT PROGRAM FRIDAY EVENING AT 6:30, REBROADCAST SUNDAY AT NOON. AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS DAY-AFTER-THE-ELECTION SPECIAL EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS." I'M DEAN BORG. THANKS FOR JOINING US.

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