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CAMPAIGN 2002: The Secretary of State and Office of Auditor

posted on October 21, 2002

Glover: GOOD EVENING. TONIGHT WE BEGIN A SERIES OF FIVE HALF-HOUR PROGRAMS DEDICATED TO THE ELECTION OF 2002 AND TO THE CANDIDATES WHO'LL APPEAR ON THE NOVEMBER 5 BALLOT. THE PURPOSE OF OUR SERIES IS TO FAMILIARIZE YOU, THE IOWA VOTER, WITH CANDIDATES WHO'VE PUT THE TIME AND RESOURCES INTO THE POLITICAL PROCESS, HOPING TO AFFECT THE PUBLIC DIALOGUE IN THE CAMPAIGN OF 2002. WE'RE HERE TO HEAR ABOUT THEIR IDEAS. TONIGHT WE TALK POLICY AND POLITICS WITH CANDIDATES SEEKING TO BECOME SECRETARY OF STATE AND CANDIDATES SEEKING TO BECOME AUDITOR OF IOWA. TOMORROW EVENING CANDIDATES FOR IOWA SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE WILL JOIN US. WEDNESDAY WE CALL ON CANDIDATES SEEKING TO BECOME ATTORNEY GENERAL OF IOWA AND CANDIDATES SEEKING TO BECOME TREASURER OF IOWA. AND ON THURSDAY EVENING, WE FEATURE TWO HALF-HOUR CANDIDATE FORUMS. AT 6.30 P.M. WE TALK WITH CANDIDATES HOPING TO REPRESENT IOWA IN THE U.S. SENATE AND THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. AND AT 7 P.M. THURSDAY, JOINING US ARE CANDIDATES SEEKING TO BECOME GOVERNOR OF IOWA AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.

NOW LET'S MEET TONIGHT'S GUESTS. IOWA'S SECRETARY OF STATE SITS ON IOWA'S EXECUTIVE COUNCIL AND IS ELECTED TO A FOUR-YEAR TERM. CHET CULVER IS THE INCUMBENT. MR. CULVER IS A DEMOCRAT AND LIVES IN DES MOINES, AND HE IS SEEKING HIS SECOND TERM IN OFFICE. DON ARENZ IS FROM IOWA CITY. ARENZ REPRESENTS THE IOWA GREEN PARTY ON THE 2002 BALLOT.SYLVIA SANDERS OLSON REPRESENTS THE IOWA LIBERTARIAN PARTY. MS. OLSON IS FROM POCAHONTAS.AND MIKE HARTWIG OF ALTOONA IS THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR IOWA SECRETARY OF STATE.ALSO WITH US THIS EVENING ARE CANDIDATES FOR AUDITOR OF IOWA, WHICH IS AN OPEN SEAT IN THE ELECTION OF 2002, AS AUDITOR RICHARD JOHNSON IS RETIRING. IOWA'S AUDITOR IS ELECTED TO A FOUR-YEAR TERM AND SITS ON THE IOWA EXECUTIVE COUNCIL. STATE SENATOR PATRICK DELUHERY IS A DEMOCRAT, AND MR. DELUHERY IS FROM DAVENPORT. DAVID VAUDT IS THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE ON THE 2002 BALLOT, AND MR. VAUDT IS FROM WEST DES MOINES.

MR. VAUDT, LET'S START WITH YOU. THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF REASONS IN YOUR MIND WHY YOU SHOULD BE ELECTED TO PUBLIC OFFICE. PICK ONE AND HELP THE VOTERS TONIGHT. PICK ONE GOOD REASON TO VOTE FOR DAVID VAUDT FOR STATE AUDITOR OF IOWA.

Vaudt: MIKE, THANK YOU. TODAY I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS STATE, AND THAT'S WHY I'M RUNNING FOR THIS OFFICE, BECAUSE I THINK A CPA CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS OFFICE. MOST PEOPLE DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT THE DUTIES OF THE STATE AUDITOR, BUT THIS OFFICE PLAY A TRULY KEY ROLE IN STATE GOVERNMENT, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE STATE AUDITOR SHOULD SERVE AS THE TAXPAYERS' WATCHDOG. THE STATE AUDITOR HELPS ENSURE THAT IOWA GOVERNMENT IS ACCOUNTABLE TO ITS CITIZENS. THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, IN FACT, IS ONE OF THE LARGEST CPA FIRMS IN IOWA, AND THAT'S CRITICAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR RACE. I BRING TWENTY-FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A CPA, AND IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE A CPA LEAD THIS OFFICE, AS DICK JOHNSON HAS FOR THE PAST TWENTY-FOUR YEARS.

Glover: SENATOR DELUHERY, YOU'VE STOOD FOR PUBLIC OFFICE MANY TIMES AND YOU'VE ARGUED ON MANY ISSUES IN THE LEGISLATURE AND OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. PICK ONE OF THOSE ISSUES AND HELP THE IOWA VOTER LEARN WHY THEY SHOULD VOTE FOR PAT DELUHERY FOR STATE AUDITOR.

Deluhery: WELL, I THINK, MIKE, THAT THE JOB OF THE AUDITOR IS TO MAKE EVERY DOLLAR COUNT. IOWANS DESERVE TO GET WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR IN GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES. THAT MEANS BETTER SCHOOLS, A CLEANER ENVIRONMENT, SAFER COMMUNITIES, BETTER JOBS, AND RETIREMENT. I THINK THAT AS AUDITOR, I WOULD ATTEMPT TO IDENTIFY PROBLEMS, MEASURE SOLUTIONS, AND FOSTER BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE STATE. I'VE DONE THIS FOR TWENTY-FOUR YEARS AS A STATE SENATOR. I'VE DONE IT AS A COLLEGE TEACHER TEACHING ECONOMICS AND BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AT ST. AMBROSE UNIVERSITY. I SEE THE AUDITOR'S JOB AS AN ATTEMPT -- AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALIZE SOME OF THE POTENTIAL FOR OUR STATE AS WE GO INTO THE DECADE OR TWO AHEAD.

Glover: MR. CULVER, LET'S GO TO YOU. THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU. YOU'VE HAD ONE TERM IN OFFICE. GIVE THAT VOTER ONE GOOD REASON TO HAND CHET CULVER A SECOND TERM IN OFFICE.

Culver: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION FOR HAVING THIS FORUM TONIGHT. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VIEWERS ACROSS THE STATE TO SEE THE CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR THESE TWO IMPORTANT OFFICES. THE BOTTOM LINE, MIKE, IS THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING THE JOB DONE. 1998, I RAN ON A VERY SIMPLE PROMISE. I RAN TO INCLUDE MORE PEOPLE AND GET MORE IOWANS INVOLVED IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. THE SECRETARY OF STATE IS THE ONLY STATEWIDE ELECTED OFFICIAL SPECIFICALLY CHARGED WITH THE DUTY OF ENCOURAGING IOWANS, YOUNG AND OLD, TO PARTICIPATE AS THE COMMISSIONOR OF ELECTIONS, AS THE REGISTRAR OF VOTERS. WE'VE DONE THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS; 300,000 MORE IOWANS HAVE EITHER REGISTERED TO VOTE OR VOTED. WE WERE EIGHTH IN THENATION, AT 72-PERCENT TURNOUT IN 2000. WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE OF 5 PERCENT IN 18- TO 24-YEAR-OLD TURNOUT, AND WE'VE ALSO STREAMLINED GOVERNMENT AND CITIZEN ACCESS TO THE OFFICE.

Glover: AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. MR. HARTWIG, LET'S GO TO YOU FOR A SECOND, IF I COULD. THE SAME QUESTION I'VE OF ASKED THE OTHERS: GIVE US THE ONE GOOD REASON WHY MIKE HARTWIG, WHO MANY IOWANS PROBABLY DON'T KNOW, OUGHT TO BE OUR NEXT SECRETARY OF STATE.

Hartwig: WELL, THANK YOU, MIKE. FIRST OF ALL, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO IPTV FOR HAVING THIS FORUM. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU FOLKS OUT THERE FOR TUNING IN TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS. YOU MAY NOT KNOW ME. MY FATHER WALKED AWAY WHEN I WAS A VERY SMALL BOY. MY MOM WENT INTO POVERTY. SHE ENDED UP PUTTING US UP FOR ADOPTION, AND I WAS ADOPTED INTO A VERY ABUSIVE HOME. BECAUSE OF THAT, I HAVE LEARNED THE IMPORTANT ROLE THAT GOVERNMENT PLAYS IN PROVIDING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE FAMILIES CAN THRIVE. I'VE ALSO GIVEN MY ENTIRE LIFE TO TRY TO STRENGTHEN THE FAMILIES OF IOWA. I HAVE A LIFELONG DREAM OF MAKING SURE THAT IOWA IS THE BEST PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY. OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, I'VE COME TO REALIZE THE IMPORTANT PLACE THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE PLAYS IN MAKING SURE THAT GOOD GOVERNMENTHAS A CHANCE. HE IS -- HE OR SHE IS THE CHIEF ELECTION OFFICER AND GUARDS THE ELECTION PROCESS. SO THE REASON WHY I BELIEVE I'M THE BEST QUALIFIED FOR THIS IS BECAUSE I HAVE THE MANAGERIAL SKILLS THAT I CAN BRING TO THE TABLE. I HAVE A VISION TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ELECTION PROCESS IS AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE.

Glover: MS. OLSON, IF WE COULD GO TO YOU. FIRST OF ALL, IF I SAID "CYNTHIA," I APOLOGIZE. OBVIOUSLY YOUR NAME IS SYLVIA. MY APOLOGIES. READING A SCRIPT IS KIND OF TOUGH FOR A RAGAMUFFIN LIKE ME. BUT A QUESTION TO YOU ABOUT PICKING THE TOP REASON WHY VOTERS OUGHT TO MAKE YOU THE NEXT SECRETARY OF STATE. BUT ADD TO THAT THE QUESTION OF WOULD A VOTER BE WASTING HIS OR HER VOTE BY VOTING FOR A MINOR PARTY CANDIDATE.

Olson: I DON'T THINK YOU'RE WASTING YOUR VOTE IF YOU VOTE FOR WHAT YOU TRULY BELIEVE IN. THIS IS, I GUESS, THE REASON THAT I'M RUNNING FOR OFFICE. I THINK YOU HAVE TO STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE, AND I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT ORDINARY PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF GET INVOLVED WITH GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE IF WE LEAVE GOVERNMENT TO THE PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS AND THE SPECIAL INTERESTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO CONTROL THINGS, THEN WE'RE TRULY IN DANGER.

Glover: IT WOULD BE LIKE LEAVING TELEVISION TO AMATEURS LIKE ME.MR. ARENZ, IF WE COULD TAKE THAT QUESTION TO YOU. GIVE THE VOTER ONE -- THE TOP REASON WHY YOU OUGHT TO BE PICKED AS THE NEXT SECRETARY OF STATE AND A REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT WASTING HIS OR HER VOTE VOTING FOR YOU.

Arenz: I WOULD SAY THAT THE REASONS WOULD BE IN THE VOTERS. THIS IS A VOTER-DRIVEN CAMPAIGN. IT'S UP TO THEM WHO THEY VOTE FOR, FOR THE OFFICE. AND I'M PARTICULARLY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS FORMAT WHERE THEY GET TO SEE ALL CANDIDATES FOR THESE TWO OFFICES IN EQUAL PROPORTION. I THINK THAT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS TO LOOK AT THE VALUES OF THE DIFFERENT -- OF THE FOUR PARTIES AND SEE WHICH OF THOSE PARTIES AND WHICH OF THE CANDIDATES BEST MATCH THEIR VALUES. I THINK THAT THE VALUES OF THE GREEN PARTY ARE AMERICAN VALUES. THEY'RE NONVIOLENCE, ECOLOGICAL WISDOM, SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND GRASS-ROOTS DEMOCRACY. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO FOR GRASS-ROOTS DEMOCRACY IS TO ADVOCATE WHAT IS CALLED INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING, WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE RANGE OF CHOICES THAT VOTERS WOULD HAVE.

Glover: AND WE'LL COME BACK TO SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. MR. VAUDT, I'D LIKE TO GO TO YOU, IF I COULD, FOR A SECOND. YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR OPEN AND I'VE HEARD IT IN SOME OF YOUR RADIO COMMERCIALS, YOU SAY YOU'RE THE ONLY CPA WHO IS RUNNING FOR THE OFFICE OF STATE AUDITOR. DOES MR. DELUHERY NOT BEING A CPA DISQUALIFY HIM? IS HE NOT QUALIFIED TO BE AUDITOR?

Vaudt: I WOULD SAY THAT DEFINITELY TO LEAD THIS OFFICE, TO LEAD THE STATE OF IOWA'S AUDITOR'S OFFICE, YOU NEED TO BE A CPA. THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OFFICE IS TO AUDIT, AND ONLY CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS CAN PERFORM FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDITS. THAT'S THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OFFICE.

Glover: SO YOU ARE SAYING SENATOR DELUHERY IS NOT QUALIFIED.

Vaudt: CORRECT.

Glover: SENATOR DELUHERY, HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? SHOULDN'T THE PERSON WHO OVERSEES THE STATE'S BOOKS BE A CPA?

Deluhery: NO, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN THE LAW, IN THE CONSTITUTION, OR EVEN IN THE GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE PEOPLE OF IOWA. THE JOB OF THE AUDITOR IS TO MAKE POLICY ON THE BUDGET, A $4.5-BILLION BUDGET FOR THE STATE OF IOWA. I HAVE WORKED ON 24 APPROPRIATIONS PROCESSES IN THE TWENTY-FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE WORKED IN THE IOWA SENATE. TWENTY-FOUR TIMES I'VE LOOKED AT THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEES AND THE BILLS THAT THEY BRING OUT ON TAXATION. I'M QUALIFIED BASED ON MY HONORS GRADUATION FROM THE LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS AND MY APPOINTMENT TO THE FACULTY AT ST. AMBROSE UNIVERSITY. I WOULD SAY, JUST IN PARENTHESIS, THAT I'VE TAUGHT A LOT OF ACCOUNTANTS AND IRESPECT THE CREDENTIAL BUT IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS JOB. AND I'D FINALLY SAY THAT WHEN YOU BURROW INTO STATE GOVERNMENT AND EVEN LOOK AT THAT FEDERAL $3 BILLION PLUS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDS IN IOWA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES: WHAT IS THE MONEY BEING SPENT FOR; WHAT'S THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF IT; DO WE ACHIEVE THE INTENDED PURPOSE WITH THESE PROGRAMS? THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BRING TO THE JOB, THAT KIND OF ENERGY.

Glover: MR. VAUDT?

Vaudt: NO. I THINK DEFINITELY IN ORDER TO CONDUCT AN AUDIT, YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED IN IOWA AS A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT. AND THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY OF THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IS TO AUDIT; IT'S NOT TO SET THE BUDGET.

Glover: I'D LIKE TO COME BACK TO OUR CANDIDATES FOR SECRETARY OF STATE, IF I COULD FOR A SECOND, STARTING WITH YOU, MR. HARTWIG, TO SEE HOW SOME OF YOUR PHILOSOPHY WOULD BE INTERPRETED OR PUT INTO PLACE SHOULD YOU TAKE OVER THIS OFFICE. YOU SAY IN YOUR RESUME THAT YOU'RE FOR SMALLER GOVERNMENT, LESS REGULATION, AND SO FORTH. GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED IN FLORIDA IN THE 2000 ELECTION, ISN'T THAT A CASE FOR THE STATE'S TOP ELECTION OFFICER HAVING MORE POWERS, MORE SUPERVISORY ROLES, AND MORE REGULATION?

Hartwig: I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE BASIC RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS OFFICE. I DON'T SEE THAT THIS OFFICE IS NECESSARILY TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT VOTERS. HIS PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PROTECT THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. AND I BELIEVE THE PRESENT SECRETARY OF STATE HAS FALLEN DOWN ON THE JOB, TO THE POINT THAT LATE LAST WEEK WE JUST SIMPLY GOT A LIST OF FELONS FROM MAY, JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST OF THIS LAST YEAR AND DID A SIMPLE SEARCH IN ONE OF THE COUNTIES AND FOUND THAT OUT OF THE 45 FELONS, 8 WERE REGISTERED AND ONLY 2 HAD BEEN TAKEN OFF THE ROLLS AS FAR AS BEING ELIGIBLE TO VOTE. WE TALKED TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ABOUT -- OR THE COUNTY AUDITOR ABOUT THAT, AND SHE SAID, YEAH. I ASKED REAL SIMPLY, "IF THIS PERSON CAME IN AND ASKED FOR AN ABSENTEE BALLOT, WOULD YOU GIVE IT TO THEM?" AND SHE SAID, "YEAH, THERE'S NO REASON WHY I WOULDN'T." IT'S A BASIC RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS OFFICE TO PURGE THOSE LIST OF FELONS ABOUT EVERY TWENTY SOME DAYS.

Glover: MR. CULVER, ASSUMING THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHINGMR. HARTWIG JUST SAID, WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE?

Culver: WELL, LIKE I SAID INITIALLY, WE'RE GETTING THE JOB DONE. THE LIST THAT WE WORK WITH, THE TWO MILLION VOTER REGISTRATION FILE THAT WE HAVE IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, IS AS CLEAN AS IT'S BEEN IN YEARS. THE COUNTY AUDITORS -- AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT MY OPPONENT IS WRONG ON HERE. THE COUNTY AUDITORS HAVE THE DUTY TO CLEAN THE LIST. THE CLERKS OF COURT NOTIFY THE COUNTY AUDITORS IF THERE'S A FELONY CONVICTION, AND THEN THE COUNTY AUDITOR HAS THE DUTY TO NOT ONLY TAKE OFF FELONS, BUT IF THERE'S A CHANGE OF ADDRESS AND OTHER TYPES OF MAINTENANCE TO THE FILE, THAT'S THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S ROLE. WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE AUDITORS. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON I'M RUNNING FOR REELECTION. I'VE DEVELOPED A VERY GOODWORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. WE'VE HAD FIVE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE LAST TWELVE MONTHS. WE'RE FOCUSING ON TRAINING RECRUITMENT OF POLL WORKERS. WE'RE FOCUSING ON VOTER EDUCATION. AND I'M FOCUSING ON RUNNING A POSITIVE CAMPAIGN FOR REELECTION.

Glover: WELL, LET'S TURN THE EARLIER QUESTION ASKED OF MR. HARTWIG ON ITS EAR JUST A BIT. YOU'VE HAD A TERM AS SECRETARY OF STATE SINCE FLORIDA IN 2000. YOU'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THE ELECTION REFORM MOVEMENT, YET NOT A LOT HAS HAPPENED. COULDN'T SOMEONE MAKE THE ARGUMENT A MORE EFFECTIVE SECRETARY OF STATE IS NEEDED?

Culver: YOU KNOW, A LOT HAPPENED LAST WEEK, MIKE. THE HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT WAS PASSED IN WASHINGTON D.C. THAT IS ARGUABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF VOTING RIGHTS AND CIVIL RIGHTS LEGISLATION THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE 1965. THE HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT WILL ALLOW FOR STATES TO RECEIVE AS MUCH AS $4 BILLION TO HELP WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY. I AGREE WITH MY OPPONENT. WE DO NEED A NEW VOTER REGISTRATION SYSTEM. WE HAVE A 1970’S MAINFRAME COMPUTER THAT DOES MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO DO OUR JOB, BUT WE'RE GETTING THE JOB DONE. THE FEDERAL ASSISTANCE THAT THIS BILL PROVIDES WILL ALLOW ALL STATES TO GET NEW EQUIPMENT, NEW VOTER REGISTRATION SYSTEMS, INCREASE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES, AND A REAL FOCUS ON VOTER EDUCATION. I'M VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT IOWA IS VERY VISIBLE NATIONALLY, IN MY ROLE AS THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR NATIONAL SECRETARY OF STATE'S ASSOCIATION, IN GETTING THAT LEGISLATION PASSED. AND I WORKED IN A BIPARTISAN WAY, BOTH AT THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL, TO GET THAT HISTORIC PIECE OF LEGISLATION PASSED. AGAIN, WE GOT THE JOB DONE. AND NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IF REELECTED ON NOVEMBER 5 WILL BE IMPLEMENTING ELECTION REFORM IN ALL 99 COUNTIES.

Glover: MR. ARENZ, YOU'RE RUNNING UNDER THE BANNER OF THE GREEN PARTY, WHICH -- ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES THE GREEN PARTY PUSHES IS ENVIRONMENTAL ACCOUNTABILITY, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENT, AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. IF YOU'RE ELECTED AS IOWA'S SECRETARY OF STATE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADVANCE AN ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA?

Arenz: I THINK ONE THING I WOULD DO -- THE SECRETARY OF STATE DOESN'T HAVE DIRECT RELATIONSHIP TO THAT ISSUE, BUT I THINK INDIRECTLY. I TAKE A LOOK AT THE INCUMBENT'S EXCELLENT WEB SITE, AND I SEE MANY WAYS THAT WE COULD REMIND CORPORATIONS THAT THEY HAVE A DUTY TO THEIR STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL AS TO THEIR STOCKHOLDERS. I THINK THAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE ENVIRONMENT ISONE OF THEM. IN ADDITION, I WOULD SAY THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO THEIR EMPLOYEES, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO THEIR SUPPLIERS, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CUSTOMERS ARE ALL PART OF THE LARGER ENVIRONMENT THAT I THINK COULD BEENCOURAGED. BY THE WAY, I THINK THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING HE OR SHE COULD TO KINDLES INTERESTS IN VOTERS -- IN INCREASED VOTING.

Glover: MS. OLSON, THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY HAS A WELL-THOUGHT-OUT,WELL-FRAMED, WELL-ARGUED SET OF PRINCIPLES, BUT IT DOESN'T STRIKE ME THAT IOWA'S SECRETARY OF STATE IS A GREAT FORUM FOR ADVANCING THOSE PRINCIPLES. AM I MISSING SOMETHING?

Olson: WELL, I THINK ANY FORUM IS A GREAT ONE FOR ADVANCING THE PRINCIPLES OF LIBERTY. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ONE THING THAT MR. CULVER SAID ABOUT ALL THIS WONDERFUL MONEY COMING TO US FROM WASHINGTON. SOMETIMES I GET REALLY UPSET BECAUSE WHERE DO WE THINK THIS MONEY COMES FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE. WHY CAN'T IT JUST STAY IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO START WITH AND FORGET ABOUT SENDING IT TO WASHINGTON AND THEN MAYBE SOME OF IT FILTERING BACK? THE MAIN POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT AS SECRETARY OF STATE, I WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD –- WE NEED THE BALLOT INITIATIVE HERE IN IOWA SO THAT VOTERS CAN DIRECTLY PUT LAWS ON THE BALLOT. THIS WOULD TIE IN EVEN TO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. IT TIES INTO ANY ISSUE THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS EITHER UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO DEAL WITH.

Glover: SO YOU FAVOR THE INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM PROCESS?

Olson: I DO.

Glover: MR. VAUDT, IF WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU FOR A SECOND. YOU'VE MADE THE CASE THAT THE OFFICE OF AUDITOR OF IOWA OUGHT TO BE A TECHNICAL OFFICE, ALMOST, AN OFFICE THAT'S OVERSEEN BY A PROFESSIONAL ACCOUNTANT, A CPA. ISN'T THAT AN ARGUMENT FOR MAKING THE OFFICE AN APPOINTED ONE RATHER THAN AN ELECTED ONE?

Vaudt: IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT I THINK CAN GO EITHER WAY BUT, DEFINITELY UNDER THE CURRENT CODE AND EVERYTHING, IT IS AN ELECTIVE OFFICE. IT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU ARE THE TAXPAYERS' WATCHDOG, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE TAXPAYER INPUT ON WHO SHOULD SERVE IN THAT ROLE, AS LONG AS THEY’RE QUALIFIED AND HAVE THE RIGHT QUALIFICATIONS.

Glover: SENATOR DELUHERY, SAME QUESTION TO YOU. IF THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IS TO BE AN OVERSEEN OFFICE BY A PROFESSIONAL CPA, AN ACCOUNTANT WHO'S JUST CHECKING THE BOOKS, ISN'T THAT AN ARGUMENT FOR MAKING IT AN APPOINTIVE OFFICE?

Deluhery: NO, I DON'T THINK SO, MYSELF. I THINK ACTUALLY THAT WHAT YOU NEED IS A STRONG VOICE, SOMEBODY THAT’S INDEPENDENT, SOMEBODY THAT CAN CALL IT AS HE SEES IT AT THE TIME THAT ANY KIND OF THING ARISES EITHER IN STATE GOVERNMENT, IN THE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT COME THROUGH STATE GOVERNMENT, OR IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT: CITIES, COUNTIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, COMMUNITY COLLEGES. AND I'VE GOT THAT KIND OF A RECORD. I'VE BEEN AN INDEPENDENT VOICE IN THE IOWA SENATE WORKING WITH BOTH PARTIES AND GOVERNORS OF BOTH PARTIES. MY OPPONENT, ON THE OTHER HAND, WHO HAS TAKEN A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO MY QUALIFICATIONS, HAS SPENT HIS LAST TWENTY-FIVE YEARS WORKING FOR ONE OF THE BIG FIVE ACCOUNTING FIRMS, ONE OF THE ACCOUNTING FIRMS THAT TAKES AS ITS MAIN POINT ON ITS OWN WEB PAGE THAT IT HELPS BUSINESSES MOVE TO BURMUDA, AN ACCOUNTING FIRM WHICH HAS BEEN CHARGED AGAIN AND AGAIN THIS PAST COUPLE OF SUMMERS WITH VIOLATIONS OF FEDERAL LAW WITH REGARD TO THE SALE OF CORPORATE TAX SHELTERS.

Glover: MR. VAUDT, I THINK YOU'VE JUST BEEN ENRON’D, AND SO I THINK I HAVE TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THAT.

Vaudt: I APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND. MIKE, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, THIS IS A RACE ABOUT QUALIFICATIONS. AND, YES, I HAVE WORKED FOR A BIG FOUROR BIG FIVE CPA FIRM, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE HAD. KPMG IS A WELL-RESPECTED AND WELL-REGARDED CPA FIRM, AND IT SPEAKS VERY HIGHLY OF MY QUALIFICATIONS. AND THIS IS A RACE ABOUT AUDITING. BOTTOM LINE IS, ONLY CPAs CAN CONDUCT FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDITS. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT THE STATE AUDITOR NEEDS TO DO.

Glover: MR. HARTWIG, IF WE COULD GO TO YOU FOR A SECOND. IN A RELATIVELY BRIEF SPAN, TELL US HOW IOWA WOULD NOTICE IT, SHOULD YOU BECOME SECRETARY OF STATE.

Hartwig: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE A VISION TO START AN IDENTIFICATION PROCESS WHEN WE GIVE A BALLOT OUT. IT'S EASIER IN THE STATE OF IOWA TO RECEIVE A BALLOT THAN IT IS TO RENT A MOVIE. IT SEEMS LOGICAL TO ME THAT IF WE THINK THE ELECTION PROCESS IS IMPORTANT THAT WE OUGHT TO ASK PEOPLE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. IT WASN'T UNTIL LAST WEEK WHEN THIS HELP AMERICA VOTER ACT CAME OUT WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS THE RESULT OF SO MANY SECRETARIES OF STATES ACROSS THE NATION WHO HAVE FALLEN DOWN ON THE JOB THAT THIS BILL HAD TO COME OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THERE ARE STATES WHO AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS KIND OF MONEY AND A GOOD CHUNK OF THE MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE JOB WELL. WE NEED THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP IN THIS STATE. WE NEED A SYSTEM THAT IS ACCURATE AND TRACKS PEOPLE.

Glover: SECRETARY CULVER, IT STRIKES ME THAT YOU'VE COME UNDER CRITICISM THERE, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

Culver: WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO FOCUS ON AGAIN IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE WERE ELECTED TO DO. I WAS HONORED AND PRIVILEGED TO GET ELECTED IN 1998. I'M ASKING THE VIEWERS HERE TONIGHT FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5. I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THEIR VOTE. THE RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. AGAIN, I'M HERE TONIGHT RUNNING ON A POSITIVE MESSAGE OF GETTING OUR JOB DONE. AND MY COLLEAGUES AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE WORKED EXTREMELY HARD ON THE HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT. IT IS AN EXCITING TIME TO BE IN THIS OFFICE. IT'S ALSO A CRITICAL TIME TO BE IN THIS OFFICE. WE'RE REALLY AT A CROSSROADS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT SOMEONE IS IN THAT OFFICE THAT TRULYUNDERSTANDS ELECTION REFORM. I HAVE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS ACROSS IOWA. I'VE HAD FIVE OF THEM. WE'VE ISSUED A REPORT ENTITLED "ELECTIONS 2000: OUR FACTS, OUR FINDINGS, AND OUR FUTURE." I ENCOURAGE YOUR VIEWERS TO CHECK IT OUT ONLINE AT SOS.STATE.IA.US. THAT'S SOS.STATE.IA.US. AND WE WILL GIVE EVERY VIEWER A CLEAR IDEA OF EXACTLY WHERE WE NEED TO GO. THIS IS ABOUT EQUAL PROTECTION, MIKE. THIS IS ABOUT TREATING VOTERS EQUALLY IN EVERY PRECINCT IN THIS STATE SO THAT WHEN THEY GO VOTE, THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS THAT EVERY OTHER VOTER HAS. AND RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IN THIS COUNTRY, AS WE LEARNED IN FLORIDA WHEN FOUR TO SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE DISENFRANCHISED.

Glover: I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU GIVE YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER. [ LAUGHTER ] MR. ARENZ, IF WE COULD GO TO YOU. SOME OF THESE MAJOR PARTY CANDIDATES, THEY’VE GOT SOME HEAVY HITTERS OUT THERE TURNING OUT VOTERS FOR THEM. CHET CULVER, PAT DELUHERY, THEY'VE GOT TOM HARKING AND TOM VILSACK OUT THERE GINNING UP A DEMOCRATIC VOTE. MIKE HARTWIG, DAVE VAUDT, THEY'VE GOT DOUG GROSS. THEY'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF IMPORTANT, HEAVY PEOPLE OUT THERE TURNING OUT THEIR VOTE. HOW DO YOU MAKE AN IMPACT? HOW DO YOU GET YOUR NAME OUT INTO THAT MIX LACKING THOSE BIG-NAME CANDIDATES OUT THERE?

Arenz: THAT'S EASY, WE DON'T HAVE HEAVY HITTERS. OUR CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT THE VOTERS AND OUR VALUES. THAT'S THE HEART OF THE CAMPAIGN IS TO MATCH THEVOTERS' VALUES WITH THE PARTY VALUES. AND EVENTUALLY, IF WE HAVE EQUAL CHANCES LIKE WE HAVE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS OURSELVES AND IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT A REAL VOTING REFORM, LIKE INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING, I THINK THAT KIND OF MESSAGE -- THAT KIND OF MATCH OF VALUE AND VOTER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A HEAVY HITTER, TO ME.

Glover: MS. OLSON, IF WE CAN GO TO YOU -- I ASK THIS QUESTION OFTEN OF CANDIDATES WHO ARE NOT OF THE TWO MAJOR PARTIES. AND IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION AND IT'S MEANT WITH GREAT RESPECT, WHICH IS WHY ARE YOU RUNNING. RUNNING IS A LOT OF TROUBLE. THIS IS A NICE EVENING. WE COULD BE SITTING AROUND HAVING A BEER AND A STEAK OR SOMETHING AND ENJOYING OUR FAMILIES AND ENJOYING OUR LIVES. YOU'RE OUT CAMPAIGNING, WORKING HARD, DOING ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. REALISTICALLY, THE ODDS AGAINST YOU ARE LONG. WHAT MOTIVATES YOU? WHY DO YOU RUN?

Olson: I'LL TELL YOU WHAT REALLY MOTIVATED ME TO RUN WAS CLYDE CLEVELAND, WHO IS OUR CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR FOR THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY. IF YOU EVER MEET HIM, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I MEAN. HE'S JUST AN INCREDIBLE GUY. AND HE REPRESENTS, I THINK, THE VALUES OF LIBERTY, PERSONAL FREEDOM. HE WANTS TO REBUILD IOWA IN TERMS OF MAKING IT A PLACE WHERE OUR KIDS WANT TO STAY, AND IENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO TO HIS WEB SITE, WHICH IS CLEVELANDFORGOVERNOR.ORG. THERE'S PLENTY OF INFORMATION THERE ON ALL KINDS OF LIBERTARIAN SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS THAT OUR STATE FACES AND OUR OTHER CANDIDATES.

Glover: MR. VAUDT, IF WE COULD TURN MY QUESTION ON ITS EAR JUST A LITTLE BIT, THE ONE I ASKED OF SECRETARY CULVER, ARE YOU IN FACT A PRISONOR OF YOUR OVERALL STATEWIDE TICKET: IF DOUG GROSS DOES WELL, IF GREG GANSKE DOES WELL, YOU'LL DO PRETTY WELL; IF THEY DON'T DO SO WELL, YOU WON'T DO SO WELL?

Vaudt: OBVIOUSLY THE TICKET AND HOW IT RUNS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON ALL OF OUR RACES. I THINK THE KEY IN THIS RACE IS IT'S ABOUT QUALIFICATIONS. AND I THINK ACROSS ALL PARTIES, PEOPLE LIKE AT CPA AS BEING THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE NEED FOR THIS OFFICE.

Glover: SO YOU CAN DRAW SOME DISTINCTIONS.

Vaudt: DEFINITELY.

Glover: SENATOR DELUHERY, IS IT ALL ABOUT HOW WELL THE TOP OF YOUR TICKET DOES?

Deluhery: WELL, THAT CERTAINLY IS A PART OF IT. I'M RUNNING WITH A VERY STRONG TICKET IN TOM HARKIN AND TOM VILSACK, BUT IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF WHICH WAY DO YOU THINK STATE GOVERNMENT SHOULD GO, HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF THE PEOPLE. MY OPPONENT HAS BEEN WORKING -- IN HIS OWN MESSAGE, HE SAYS FOR BILLION-DOLLAR CORPORATIONS OVER THE PAST TWENTY-FIVE YEARS. I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE OF IOWA ON SUCH THINGS AS ESTABLISHING THE CONSUMERADVOCATE OFFICE THAT SAVED PEOPLE $1.5 BILLION IN THE PAST TEN YEARS, GETTING RID OF ATM CHARGES, PROTECTING PEOPLE'S PENSIONS. ALL OF THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT THE AUDITOR WILL HAVE A ROLE IN THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

Glover: MR. HARTWIG, ARE YOU LEAVING HERE AND GOING DOWN AND STUFFING DOUG GROSS ENVELOPES?

Hartwig: WELL, I HAVE AN INTERESTING PIECE ON THAT ON MY WEB SITE AT MIKEHARTWIG.COM. JUST KIDDING ABOUT THAT.

Glover: ARE YOU A PRISONER OF THE –

Hartwig: WELL, ACTUALLY -- SURPRISINGLY, WE LOOKED AT THAT EVEN BEFORE WE DECIDED TO GET INTO THIS RACE. THE PERSON THAT RAN AGAINST CHET CULVER LAST TIME ACTUALLY BEAT THE SPREAD OF THE VILSACK/LIGHTFOOT RACE. THERE ARE SOME WHO BELIEVE THAT HE ACTUALLY CARRIED LIGHTFOOT MORE THAN LIGHTFOOT CARRIED JOHN GILLILAND. SO I DON'T THINK THAT -- SURE, THERE'S A CERTAIN ELEMENT OF THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK OVERALL THAT WE ARE DESTINED TO THE SAME DESTINY AS THOSE WHO ARE ON TOP OF US.

Glover: MR. CULVER, CAN I EXPECT TO SEE YOU AT TOM VILSACK'S HEADQUARTERS TONIGHT WORKING THE PHONES?

Culver: I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE AN HISTORIC YEAR FOR THE IOWA DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IT'S THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1936 THAT WE'VE HAD AN INCUMBENT DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR AND AN INCUMBENT DEMOCRATIC SENATOR RUNNING ON THE TICKET AT THE SAME TIME. I HAVE SENSED TRAVELING THE STATE -- AND I'VE BEEN TO EVERY COUNTY NOW ABOUT THREE TIMES -- THAT PEOPLE ARE READY FOR A CHANGE. THEY'RE READY FOR A CHANGE AT THE IOWA LEGISLATURE, PRIMARILY, TO GIVE THE GOVERNOR THE TOOLS THAT HE NEEDS TO FURTHER HIS AGENDA. BUT I'M ALSO RUNNING AS AN INCUMBENT SECRETARY OF STATE.

Glover: I WAS GOING TO SAY, I DIDN'T THINK YOU'D WANT TOO MUCH CHANGE.[ LAUGHTER ] RUNNING AS AN INCUMBENT SECRETARY OF STATE, THAT HAS REALLY FULFILLED THE PLEDGES THAT I MADE IN '98. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M MOST PROUD OF, MIKE, IS OUR EFFORT TO GET MORE YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. WE PROMISED TO VISIT SCHOOLS IN EVERY COUNTY IF ELECTED, AND WE'VE DONE THAT. I'VE BEEN TO SCHOOLS IN ALL 99 COUNTIES. I'M A FORMER HIGH SCHOOL GOVERNMENT TEACHER AND COACH, AND I AM COMMITTED TO GETTINGMORE YOUNG IOWANS INVOLVED IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. WE STARTED A POLITCAL AWARENESS CLUB WITH 5,000 MEMBERS FROM 250 SCHOOLS. WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE NEXT GENERATION OF YOUNG IOWANS TO BRING THEM ALONG, WHETHER THEY'RE REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT, GREEN PARTY, LIBERTARIAN. I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS GREAT STATE. AND BY GETTING THESE YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED, THE FUTURE WILL BE BRIGHT FOR THE STATE OF IOWA.

Glover: MR. ARENZ, THIS STATE HAS A REPUTATION FOR ITS SQUEAKY CLEAN POLITICS. THEY'RE AREN'T A LOT OF POLITICAL SCANDALS AROUND HERE. IS THERE A LOT OF WORK FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO DO?

Arenz: I HOPE NOT. I'M A PRETTY RELAXED KIND OF PERSON, AS YOU CAN SEE BY MY ATTIRE TONIGHT. I THINK THAT THE WORK FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE IS TO DO A GOOD JOB OF EXPANDING VOTER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PEOPLE OF IOWA.

Glover: MS. OLSON, SAME QUESTION TO YOU.

Olson: WELL, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO COME BACK TO THE IDEA OF THE BALLOT INITIATIVE, WHICH 24 STATES HAVE. IOWA DOESN'T. TALK ABOUT INCREASING VOTER PARTICIPATION. IT DOES IT. PEOPLE, WHEN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON AN ACTUAL LAW, AN ACTUAL REFORM, THEY ARE MUCH MORE EXCITED ABOUT BEING PART OF THE POLITICAL PROCESS.

Glover: I ASKED YOU BEFORE WHY YOU'RE RUNNING, SO I THINK I SHOULD FOLLOW IT WITH THIS QUESTION: ARE YOU HAVING FUN; ARE YOU ENJOYING YOURSELF?

Olson: SURE.

Glover: MR. ARENZ, HOW ABOUT YOU?

Arenz: YOU BET.

Glover: IT'S NOT FRUSTRATING RUNNING AGAINST A MAJOR PARTY?

Arenz: NOT AT ALL. AND BEING ASSOCIATED WITH THE GREEN PARTY THAT'S CLEAR ABOUT ITS VALUES IS A PRIVILEGE, AS WELL AS A PLEASURE.

Glover: AND MR. VAUDT AND MR. DELUHERY, DO YOU TWO HAVE ANY MORE DEBATES COMING UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE?

Vaudt: NOTHING SCHEDULED AT THIS TIME.

Deluhery: NOT THAT I KNOW OF. I'M OUT THERE GOING OUT ONE COMMUNITY TO ANOTHER.

Glover: OKAY. THANKS, GUYS. I'M SORRY BUT WE'RE OUT OF TIME. THANKS TOEACH OF YOU FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVES ON THE CAMPAIGN OF 2002. AS INDICATED EARLIER, TONIGHT'S PROGRAM IS THE FIRST OF FIVE CANDIDATE FORUMS THIS WEEK ON IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION. THIS EVENING, OF COURSE, WE FEATURED CANDIDATES WHO'LL APPEAR ON THE BALLOT AS CANDIDATES FOR SECRETARY OF STATE AND AUDITOR OF IOWA. TOMORROW EVENING, LIVE AT 6.30 P.M., WE SHIFT OUR FOCUS TO THE CANDIDATES SEEKING THE OFFICE OF SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE. WE HOPE YOU'LL BE JOINING US FOR TOMORROW'S PREELECTION SESSION AS WE DISCUSS THE POLICY AND POLITICS IN THE CAMPAIGN FOR SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE. WE'RE HERE ALL WEEK LONG LIVE AT 6.30 P.M. WITH "CAMPAIGN 2002" HERE ON STATEWIDE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION. I'M MIKE GLOVER. THANKS FOR JOINING US.

FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PROVIDED BY "FRIENDS," THE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION FOUNDATION... GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES AND FRIENDS WHO FEEL PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY WATCH ON IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION.


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