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IOWA PRESS #2712 — Rep. Leonard Boswell
November 21, 1999

Borg: MORE THAN A MONTH AND A HALF AFTER THE DEADLINE, THE U.S. CONGRESS HAS NEARLY COMPLETED THE FEDERAL BUDGET, BUT MANY MORE ITEMS REMAIN ON THE CONGRESSIONAL AGENDA. WE'LL DISCUSS THE ONGOING BUSINESS OF THE 106TH CONGRESS WITH THIRD-DISTRICT CONGRESSMAN, LEONARD BOSWELL, ON THIS EDITION OF IOWA PRESS.

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THIS IS THE SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 21st EDITION OF IOWA PRESS. HERE IS DEAN BORG.

Borg: IT'S OFTEN SAID THAT IF BOTH SIDES IN A DISPUTE AREN'T HAPPY WITH A COMPROMISE SOLUTION, THEN IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATION. WELL, PERHAPS THAT'S THE CASE WITH THE NEW FEDERAL BUDGET, CONSIDERING ALL THE ADVERSARIES WITH A STAKE IN THE OUTCOME OF THAT BUDGET NEGOTIATION -- THE PRESIDENT AND THE CONGRESS, THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, CONSERVATIVES VERSUS LIBERALS -- YOU MIGHT CONCLUDE THAT THERE ARE NO CLEAR-CUT WINNERS. THE BUDGET PROCESS WAS DRAWN OUT DURING THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, FULFILLING PREDICTIONS OF THOSE WHO SAID THAT PAST BUDGET AGREEMENTS AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WENT ALONG WITH THOSE AGREEMENTS WOULD HAMPER THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS TIME. WELL, TO HELP US SORT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE BUDGET AGREEMENT IS CONGRESSMAN LEONARD BOSWELL NOW IN HIS SECOND TERM REPRESENTING SOUTHERN IOWA'S THIRD CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL MAINTAINS A FARMING OPERATION IN SOUTHWEST IOWA. HE'S ALSO A FORMER LEADER OF DEMOCRATS IN THE IOWA LEGISLATURE. CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, WELCOME BACK TO IOWA PRESS.

Boswell: GOOD TO BE HERE, DEAN.

Borg: AND AT THE IOWA PRESS TABLE, TOO, DAVID YEPSEN OF THE DES MOINES REGISTER, MIKE GLOVER OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Glover: CONGRESSMAN, IF YOU COULD BRING THIS BUDGET ISSUE BACK HOME JUST A LITTLE BIT, TELL US WHO WON, WHO LOST, IN THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IN CONGRESS. WHO ARE THE WINNERS AND LOSERS?

Boswell: WHO ARE THE WINNERS AND LOSERS? THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION, MIKE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS, I THINK, HAPPENED IN THIS SESSION TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT. I THINK WE MISSED SOME OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK THAT THE COUNTRY WAS POISED AND DESIGNED TO GET SOMETHING DONE, TO GET TO COME TO GRIPS WITH CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM, TO COME TO GRIPS WITH PATIENT'S RIGHTS, AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. WE JUST MISSED SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, OPPORTUNITIES TO REALLY ADDRESS THE MEDICARE SITUATION, WHICH, I THINK, IS ON A SHORT STRING AS YOU THINK IN TERMS OF SOCIAL SECURITY'S GOOD UP TILL THE MID 30S, BUT NOT MEDICARE, AND I THINK WE PASSED UP AN OPPORTUNITY, WE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING FOR THAT. AND I THINK WE'VE MISSED SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE READY FOR US, AND THE NEEDS THERE, AND THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA WANTED IT, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T GET THERE.

Glover: CAN YOU GIVE THIS CONGRESS A GRADE?

Boswell: GIVE THEM A GRADE? OH, I'D GIVE IT ABOUT PROBABLY A "C-." MAYBE A "D."

Yepsen: WHAT SPECIFICALLY WAS DONE TO HELP FARMING IN RURAL AMERICA? YOU HAD AN AID PACKAGE, BUT ANYTHING ELSE?

Boswell: THE AID PACKAGE WAS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. DAVE, AS YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THIS EVERY DAY FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT, AND WE HAD TO DO IT. IT WAS A SITUATION THAT JUST HAD TO BE DONE. WE DID IT LAST YEAR. WE DID IT AGAIN THIS YEAR, AND I SUSPECT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. NOW, WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT OUR URBAN FRIENDS ARE GOING LET US KEEP COMING BACK WITH THESE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS DOLLARS OF BAIL OUT, IF YOU WILL, AND SO FAR WE'VE SUCCEEDED. I NOTICE THERE'S A LITTLE MORE GROOMING THIS YEAR THAN THERE WAS LAST YEAR. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH THIS BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR ECONOMY. UNTIL THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, OUR AGRICULTURAL EXPORTS WAS ABOUT 24 BILLION ON THE PLUS SIDE OF OUR TRADE DEFICIT.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN, WHAT SHOULD WE DO TO DEAL WITH THIS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK AS A STATE EVERY YEAR AND ASKING FOR MORE AND MORE.

Boswell: LARRY COMBEST, OUR AGRICULTURE COMMITTED CHAIR, HAS ANNOUNCED, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, THAT WHEN WE COME BACK INTO SESSION WE'RE GOING TO START HEARINGS AND TRY TO COME TO GRIPS WITH THIS AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT, LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF IT. AS I'M GETTING ACQUAINTED WITH HIM, I THINK THAT HE'LL PURSUE THAT. I KNOW THE RANKING MEMBER'S STRONGLY IN THAT MODE. I FEEL THAT WAY. SO LET'S JUST SEE -- LET'S LAY HER OUT ON THE TABLE AND DISSECT IT AND SEE WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THIS FARM BILL THAT FARMERS LIKE, BUT AS WE CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED THIS LAST COUPLE YEARS, THERE ARE SOME SHORTFALLS, AND WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THAT.

Glover: WELL, THE NATION'S BASIC FARM POLICY IS EXPRESSED IN THE FREEDOM TO FARM ACT. WHAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH FREEDOM TO FARM? IS IT TIME TO GO BACK IN AND CHANGE IT? CAN WE AFFORD TO WAIT UNTIL THAT FARM BILL EXPIRES BEFORE WE TAKE A LOOK AT IT?

Boswell: I JUST SAID, MIKE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO. COMBEST HAS ANNOUNCED THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND REJOIN AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, AND WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN OR SHOULD DO.

Glover: WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?

Boswell: IT'S PREMATURE TO SAY. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SOME PLUSES ON THE FREEDOM TO FARM ACT, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME SHORTFALLS, AS DEMONSTRATED.

Glover: WHAT ARE THE SHORTFALLS?

Boswell: WELL, THE SHORTFALLS ARE THAT WHEN WE GET A SITUATION LIKE WE'VE GOT NOW WITH THIS UNPRECEDENTED OVERPRODUCTION AROUND THE WORLD AND LOW PRICES, THE AG ECONOMY IS IN THE TANK COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE ROBUST ECONOMY THAT'S REALLY GOOD. THE PEOPLE IN AGRICULTURE, AT LEAST BY MOST, ARE JUST NOT SHARING THAT, AND THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

Yepsen: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS LATEST TRADE AGREEMENT WITH CHINA? GOOD DEAL OR BAD DEAL?

Boswell: I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF TRADE WITH CHINA AND TO GET GOING WITH IT. I'VE SUPPORTED THAT YEAR BY YEAR AND WAS POSITIVE ABOUT IT BEFORE I EVER WENT TO THE CONGRESS. I THINK THAT THAT SIZE OF POPULATION AND THE NEEDS THERE AND THE POSSIBILITIES THERE AND US, DAVID, HAVING TO EXPORT AT LEAST 40 PERCENT OF OUR PRODUCT, WE'VE GOT TO PURSUE THAT MARKET. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE'LL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT NOW THAT WE NEED TO.

Yepsen: WELL, LET ME GET AT ONE THING THAT I'VE NOTICED WITH YOU DURING YOUR CAREER, CONGRESSMAN. YOU'RE A RURAL DEMOCRAT FROM A RURAL DISTRICT, FARMING BACKGROUND, YOU WANT TO PROMOTE FREE TRADE, YET YOU ENJOY A LOT OF GOOD SUPPORT FROM ORGANIZED LABOR. YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT A TOUGH BALANCING ACT TO DO THERE ON THINGS LIKE CHILD LABOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL AGREEMENTS. NOW, DO YOU THINK THAT THIS TRADE AGREEMENT WITH CHINA'S GOING TO KEEP FRIENDS IN ORGANIZED LABOR HAPPY?

Boswell: WELL, THEY'RE CONCERNED, AND I THINK IT'S FAIR THEY'RE CONCERNED. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PULLED DOWN AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND WHAT YOU AND I WANT TO DO, IS TO BRING THOSE FOLKS UP TO OUR STANDARD. AND I THINK THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THIS STEP, THE TRADE SIDE OF IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, AND THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE CAN'T CONCENTRATE ON THE MATTERS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ENVIRONMENT, WITH FAIR LABOR, AND ALL THOSE THINGS. THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A LONG WAYS TO COME UP, AND I WOULD GUESS AS WE HAVE THIS MORE INTERFACED, WE'LL BE GOING ON. AS WE HAVE THIS, THEY BECOME BETTER EDUCATED ON IT AND SO ON. I THINK THE STANDARD IS GOING TO COME UP, AND SO THAT'S A PART OF OUR CHALLENGE. I THINK WE'LL JUST HAVE TO RISE TO THAT CHALLENGE.

Glover: AT THE SAME TIME THAT PRESIDENT CLINTON ANNOUNCED SOME MOVES TO BRING CHINA INTO THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION, THE GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED THE LARGEST TRADE DEFICIT IN HISTORY WITH CHINA. ARE WE GETTING SNOOKERED HERE, CONGRESSMAN?

Boswell: ARE WE WHAT?

Glover: GETTING SNOOKERED?

Boswell: GETTING "SNOOKERED?" THAT'S A TERM I HAVEN'T HEARD FOR A WHILE. I SUPPOSE THAT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY, MIKE, BUT I DON'T THINK SO. I'VE GOTTEN ACQUAINTED WITH BARSHEFSKY AND SOME OF THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE DOING THAT, AND THEY'RE PRETTY BRIGHT PEOPLE AND I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THAT IN THE DEAL THEY JUST CUT, THEY BROUGHT THE TARIFF DOWN FROM IN THE 40 SOME TO 12 OR WHATEVER, IT'S A GIANT STEP FORWARD. THERE'S MORE ROOM TO ADVANCE THAT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO OPEN UP A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES. AGRICULTURE IS JUST NOT THE END PRODUCT. THERE'S A LOT OF JOBS THAT GO AROUND THAT AND ALL THE VALUE ADDED AND SO ON. BUT, AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE THE STANDARDS OF LIVING AND WE DON'T WANT PULL OUR PEOPLE DOWN. WE'D LIKE TO LIFT THEIRS UP.

Borg: ANOTHER BIG QUESTION IN AGRICULTURE IS WHETHER OR NOT MERGERS OF BIG BUSINESS SERVING AGRICULTURE ARE REALLY GOOD FOR COMPETITION AND THE EFFECT THAT IT HAS ON THE OVERALL AGRICULTURE ECONOMY, AND YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL FARMER. SHOULD CONGRESS GET INVOLVED?

Boswell: I THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE TO. I DON'T KNOW. I'M JOINING WITH A LITTLE AD HOC GROUP. JUST AS WE SPEAK -- IN THE LAST FEW DAYS WE'VE BEEN TALKING, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS TO SPEND SOME TIME AS A GROUP TO LOOK AT THIS, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED. WHEN YOU LOSE COMPETITION, A LOT THINGS HAPPEN. THE AIR INDUSTRY IS ONE EXAMPLE WE ALL KNOW ABOUT HERE IN IOWA. BUT YOU KNOW, IT SPINS OUT INTO OTHER AREAS TOO. SO I THINK IT'S TIME TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT IT, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE -- WE'RE TOLD BY THE SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE THEY'RE EXAMINING THIS, AND I TRUST GLICKMAN THAT THEY ARE. THEY HAVEN'T VIOLATED ANYTHING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY MIGHT BE SORT OF POSSIBLY, AT LEAST, COMING RIGHT UP TO THE LINE.

Glover: IT'S A LITTLE DAMP THIS WEEKEND, CONGRESSMAN, BUT THAT'S BEEN THE EXCEPTION RATHER THAN THE RULE. IT LOOKS LIKE A DROUGHT IS STARTING TO SETTLE IN ON THIS STATE AS WE HEAD INTO WINTER. WE COULD GO INTO THE WINTER WITH SUBSOIL AND SURFACE MOISTURES VERY SHORT. IS THERE ANYTHING CONGRESS OUGHT TO DO TO PREPARE THIS STATE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A DROUGHT DURING THE PLANTING SEASON NEXT SPRING?

Boswell: WELL, I THINK, YOU CAN'T DECIDE NOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. WE HAVE A FARM PROGRAM. WE HAVE THINGS IN PLACE AND SO ON, AND WE HAVE A COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THAT WHEN WE GO BACK IN JANUARY. AS I CAME IN THE BUILDING THIS MORNING, I GOT A LITTLE DAMP COMING IN. I HOPE THAT TURNS INTO SOME REAL RAIN, BUT I'M TRYING TO PUT SOME LOT FENCE IN TO FINISH UP THIS YEAR, AND 4 FEET DOWN, IT'S JUST DRY POWDER. SO WE'VE STOPPED. WE'RE NOT DOING IT. AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE VERY RIGHT. THE SUBSOIL, AT LEAST WHERE I LIVE, IS VERY BAD.

Yepsen: MIKE'S GOLF COURSES ARE ALSO DRYING UP A LITTLE BIT.

Boswell: IT PROBABLY LENGTHENS THE DRIVE THOUGH.

Yepsen: ONE OTHER AGRICULTURE ISSUE THAT CONFRONTS CONGRESS ARE THESE LARGE HOG CONFINEMENTS. AND THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN TALK IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT MAYBE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A ROLE IN REGULATING THESE THINGS, YET NOTHING SEEMS TO HAPPEN. IS THE IDEA OF MORE FEDERAL INVOLVEMENT IN THE REGULATION OF LARGE HOG CONFINEMENTS A DEAD ISSUE NOW?

Boswell: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A DEAD ISSUE, BUT I DON'T HEAR MUCH TALK ABOUT IT, DAVID. YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. AND I THINK UNTIL WE GET INTO SUCH SITUATIONS WHERE WE SEE THERE ARE SMOKE-STACKS-CHASING-TYPE MENTALITY, FEDERAL'S NOT GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN IT TOO MUCH. BUT THEN AGAIN, AQUIFERS DON'T STOP AT STATE LINES. SO WE JUST HAVE TO SEE, BUT AS THIS POINT, I DON'T SEE MUCH TALK ABOUT IT ALL.

Glover: LET'S OPEN IT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT AND TURN THE TABLES SOMEWHAT. YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME TRAVELING AROUND THE THIRD DISTRICT LISTENING TO CONSTITUENTS. WHEN YOU HAVE TOWN MEETINGS, WHAT ARE YOUR FOLKS TALKING ABOUT? WHAT'S ON THEIR MINDS?

Boswell: WELL, ALMOST INVARIABLY, SOMEBODY WILL COME UP TO ME AND TALK ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, OLDER PEOPLE, JUST CONSTANTLY, MIKE, AND THEY TELL ME THESE TERRIBLE STORIES THAT JUST TEARS YOU UP. THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT, THEY'RE ON A FIXED INCOME, THEY GET ALONG FINE UNTIL THEY GOT THIS EXTRA PRESCRIPTION NOW THAT THEY HAVE TO FULLFILL TO STAY HEALTHY AND SO ON, AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. SO THEY DO ONE OF SEVERAL THINGS: THEY DON'T TURN THE HEAT ON OR THEY DON'T EAT RIGHT OR THEY'RE CUTTING THEIR PILLS IN TWO OR THEY'RE SKIPPING A DAY OR SKIPPING EVERY THIRD DAY. THIS IS A REAL WORRY OUT THERE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. I'VE BEEN KIND OF PUSHING ON THAT, TO SAY THE LEAST.

Yepsen: LET'S GET INTO HEALTH CARE. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO ABOUT THAT PROBLEM? WE HEAR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES GETTING ASKED THAT TOO. YOU DESCRIBED THE PROBLEM WITH PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT?

Boswell: WE'VE GOT A WHOLE DEBATE GOING ON RIGHT NOW OR SHOULD BE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES I REFERRED TO EARLIER TO GET INTO THE MEDICARE SITUATION, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS MEDICARE -- WE'VE GOT TO DO. IF WE DIDN'T DO IT NOW -- WELL, WE HAVE TO DO IT, SO THERE WOULD BE A PRIME TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO DO OR WHAT WE CAN'T, BUT WE OUGHT TO PUT IT OUT THERE ON THE TABLE AND TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE FACTS OF IT. WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT ON THE PREFERED CUSTOMER LIST -- PREFERED CUSTOMER, THOSE THAT HAVE INSURANCE COMPANIES OR GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT PAYING OUT NEARLY DOUBLE WHAT THEY PAY, AND THEY ARE THE LEAST ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES ON IT TO RESPOND. THERE'S MY OLD ADVERSARY, THERE'S A RAT IN A WOOD PILE SOMEWHERE. I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE THAT IS BECAUSE WE'VE CHECKED IT.

Yepsen: REPUBLICANS SAY THAT DEMOCRATS REALLY DON'T WANT TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, THAT YOU ALL WANT AN ISSUE GOING INTO THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

Boswell: OH, FIDDLE. LET'S GET IT OUT THERE AND SEE WHETHER WE WANT TO SOLVE IT OR NOT. WE'VE TRIED SO HARD TO GET IT OUT THERE. I'M COSPONSOR OF A BILL WITH ALLEN FROM MAINE AND WITH OTHERS, AND WE DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ACROSS OUR STATE AND ACROSS OUR DISTRICT TO FIND OUT THAT IF YOU'RE GETTING A PRESCRIPTION FILLED IN MEXICO, AND YOU COME INTO THE UNITED STATES YOU'LL PAY 105 OR -10 PERCENT MORE. HERE'S SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T KNOW. YOU COME OUT OF CANADA AND YOU'LL PAY MAYBE 75 PERCENT MORE. AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE PREFERED CUSTOMERS I REFER TO THAT, NORMALLY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES OR THROUGH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES SO ON, THAT GET THEIR RATE. AND THEN HERE COMES THE SELF-EMPLOYED PERSON OR WHOEVER THAT'S RETIRED THAT COME WALKING IN TO GET THEIR PRESCRIPTION AND THEY'RE PAYING ALMOST DOUBLE, AND THIS IS NOT RIGHT. I SUBMIT THAT THOSE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES AREN'T SELLING AT A LOSS TO MEXICO OR CANADA OR TO THE PREFERRED CUSTOMERS. THEY'RE NOT SELLING AT A LOSS.

Yepsen: BUT THEY'RE NOT CHARITABLE INSTITUTIONS EITHER, CONGRESSMAN.

Boswell: I GUESS THEY'RE NOT.

Yepsen: WHAT ABOUT THEIR ARGUMENT THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO MAKE A PROFIT IN ORDER TO DO SOME RESEARCH?

Boswell: ARE YOU SUGGESTING TO ME THAT -- YEAH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. ARE YOU SUGGESTING TO ME THAT THEY'RE NOT MAKING A PROFIT WHEN THEY SELL TO MEXICO, CANADA, THEIR PREFERRED CUSTOMERS?

Yepsen: I'M SIMPLY TELLING YOU WHAT THEY SAY, AND THAT IS THEY HAVE TO MAKE MONEY TO DO THE RESEARCH NECESSARY.

Boswell: THAT'S AN EXPECTED ARGUMENT. I HAVE NO QUARREL WITH THAT. BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. YOU AND I PAY FOR A LOT OF RESEARCH TOO RIGHT THROUGH OUR UNIVERSITY HOSPITALS AND THE RESEARCH THAT GOES ON THERE, AND THEY GET TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. SO WE THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR A LOT OF RESEARCH. OF COURSE THEY'VE GOT TO DO SOME RESEARCH, AND THANK HEAVENS THEY DO. BUT THEY'RE MAKING MEGABUCKS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE LEAST ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, AND IT'S WRONG.

Glover: LET'S STEP BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE LARGER PICTURE OF HMO'S. IS CONGRESS GOING TO WADE BACK IN THAT ISSUE? IF YOU TALK TO PEOPLE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE FIRST THING THAT'S ON THEIR MIND, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HEALTH CARE, IS HMO'S AND THEIR ABILITY TO CHOOSE AND THE PROBLEMS THEY'RE RUNNING INTO. WILL CONGRESS GET INTO THAT ISSUE?

Boswell: WE DID. WE DID. WE PASSED A BILL IN THE HOUSE. IT'S SETTING OVER IN THE SENATE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE ON IT.

Glover: WELL, THE QUESTION IS WILL CONGRESS, AND CONGRESS INCLUDES THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

Boswell: WELL, I DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE A PRETTY SKILLED OBSERVER, MIKE, AND YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE TIME I THINK I'VE GOT MR. LOTT FIGURED OUT, I FIND OUT I DON'T HAVE HIM FIGURED OUT AT ALL. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REALLY WANT THIS, AND IT'S NEEDED. IT'S CLEARLY SO AND IT WAS BIPARTISAN COMING OUT OF THE HOUSE AND THE RIGHT BILL CAME OUT. THERE'S A LONG STORY ON THAT. I CAN SHARE MORE TIME THAN WE'VE GOT, BUT A GOOD STRONG BILL CAME OUT THAT WE OUGHT TO TRY AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT. AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S ONE OF THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE --

Glover: WELL, LET'S LET LEONARD BOSWELL BE KING FOR A SECOND. IF YOU COULD DO WHAT YOU WANTED, WHAT WOULD YOU DO ON THE ISSUE?

Boswell: WELL, I WOULD PUT INTO EFFECT THE PATIENT'S BILL OF RIGHTS THAT WE PASSED FROM THE HOUSE AND PUT IT IN THE FIELD, PUT IT OUT IN THE COUNTRY, AND SEE HOW IT WORKED OUT AND WATCH IT CLOSELY. FIGURE I'D HAVE TO TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT -- TO GIVE THAT A CHANCE TO LET PEOPLE CHOOSE THEIR DOCTOR. LET PEOPLE NOT HAVE TO DRIVE BY AN EMERGENCY ROOM. LET THE DOCTOR AND THE PATIENT DECIDE IF THEY NEED TO GO TO A SPECIALIST OR NOT, NOT SOME PERSON THAT'S SETTING WITH A RULE BOOK IN A HIGH-RISE BUILDING TRYING TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF DECISIONS.

Glover: WHAT'S STOPPING THAT?

Boswell: WELL, I THINK THERE'S A TERRIBLE LOT OF MONEY WAS PAID TO TRY TO STOP THAT, AS YOU WELL KNOW, IN THE EFFORTS TO STOP, TO SHUT IT DOWN. IT DIDN'T WORK IN THE HOUSE EVEN WITH THE SPEAKER COMING ONTO THE FLOOR AND SUGGESTING WE DO THE OTHER PLAN. WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH CROSSOVERS TO PASS THE RIGHT PLAN, I THINK. AND SO A YEAR AGO, IN THE 105TH CONGRESS, THE SENATE SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TAKE IT UP. WELL, THIS 106TH CONGRESS, WE PASSED IT FAIRLY EARLY IN THE FIRST YEAR. THAT EXCUSE IS NOT THERE.

Borg: YOU'RE A PRETTY SAVVY POLITICIAN, IS IT YOUR EXPECTATION IT’S GOING TO GET THROUGH THE SENATE?

Boswell: I THINK WHEN THE TIME COMES, DEAN, WHEN PUBLIC OPINION FINALLY PUTS ENOUGH PRESSURE ON, IT WILL HAPPEN. AND JUST WHEN THAT MOMENT IS I DON'T KNOW. IT CAN'T BE TOO FAR AWAY, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN, ANOTHER ISSUE YOU JUST MENTIONED WAS AIRLINE SLOTS AND AIRLINE FARES. THERE WAS A BILL IN CONGRESS, AN ISSUE IN CONGRESS, TO TRY TO OPEN UP MORE LANDING SPOTS AT AIRPORTS IN CHICAGO AND WASHINGTON SO THAT START-UP CARRIERS IN IOWA AND OTHER REGIONS CAN FLY IN THERE IN LOWER FARES. DIDN'T HAPPEN. WHAT'S THE PROSPECT IN THE NEXT SESSION FOR THAT?

Boswell: WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING AWAY. I THINK IT'S GOING TO STAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PROSPECT IS GOING TO REALLY BE GOOD IN THE NEXT SESSION, BUT I'M VERY HOPEFUL AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO PRESS FOR IT. IT'S VERY NEEDED. THE BIG ARGUMENT RIGHT NOW GOING ON, ON THE TRUST FUND ABOUT THOSE MONIES COLLECTED FROM PASSENGERS AND SO ON FOR AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT, AND ALL THIS BUSINESS, DEDICATING IT SOLELY TO THE PURPOSE IT WAS COLLECTED FOR, AND I SUPPORT THAT. BUT WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS FROM THE SENATE THAT ARE NOT FEELING THE SAME. THEY WANT TO APPROPRIATE THIS AND BE ABLE TO MOVE IT WHEREVER THEY FEEL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO SO. AND I'M ON THAT CONFERENCE COMMITTEE, SO IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF AN EDUCATION. I HAD A LITTLE TIT FOR TAT WITH MR. STEVENS, YOU KNOW.

Yepsen: DO YOU THINK WE'LL GET MORE AIRLINE SLOTS, BOTTOM LINE, IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS?

Boswell: YES, AT SOME POINT WE WILL BECAUSE COMMON SENSE WILL PREVAIL AND FAIRNESS WILL PREVAIL, I THINK, IN THE END, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE REALLY SWIMMING UPHILL.

Glover: IT SEEMED AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC PRESSURE AND A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTROAR ABOUT THIS ISSUE. IS THAT STILL THERE? IT SEEMS THAT'S SETTLED DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

Boswell: WELL, IT'S SETTLED DOWN SOME BECAUSE JUST HOW MUCH CAN YOU WRITE ABOUT IT? FOLKS THAT DO WHAT YOU GUYS DO. BUT STILL THE FEELINGS ARE VERY STRONG. WE STILL HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE GOING TO OMAHA TO FLY AWAY FROM DES MOINES, GOING TO KANSAS CITY TO FLY AWAY FROM DES MOINES OR FROM IOWA OR SOUTHEAST IOWA, THAT GO TO ST. LOUIS AND SO. AND IT'S JUST -- IT'S JUST NOT GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY, FOR GROWTH, FOR ENCOURAGING COMPANIES TO EXPAND, AND ENCOURAGING COMPANIES TO COME HERE AND SO ON. AND IT'S PRETTY TOUGH WHEN YOU GO OUT TO MAKE A BUSINESS TRIP INTO CHICAGO AND YOU END UP PAYING TWO OR THREE TIMES MORE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD IF YOU'D HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN IT THREE WEEKS IN ADVANCE.

Borg: I'D LIKE TO TURN THE DISCUSSION TO PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS, IF I MAY.

Boswell: WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?

Borg: QUITE A LOT OF ATTENTION OUT HERE AND MONEY BEING SPENT. YOU'VE ENDORSED AL GORE. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THERE'S A CAUSE AND EFFECT HERE, BUT WHY IS BILL BRADLEY DOING SO WELL?

Boswell: WELL, BILL BRADLEY'S A GOOD PERSON. I LIKE BILL BRADLEY, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUARREL WITH BILL BRADLEY. I JUST HAPPEN TO THINK THAT BECAUSE OF THE CONTACTS OVER SEVERAL YEARS NOW, BEFORE I WENT TO CONGRESS EVEN, AL GORE HAS BEEN SOMEBODY THAT I CAN GO TO AND GET MY CALL RETURNED AND GET SOME RESPONSE, AND HE'S JUST BEEN THERE. YOU KNOW, I COULD CONTINUE TO GIVE YOU A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS IF YOU WANTED TO, I CAN DO THAT. HE'S BEEN RESPONSIVE. SO I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW HIM. I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW HIS WIFE, TO OBSERVE THEIR FAMILY. THEY'RE JUST AN ALL-AMERICAN FAMILY AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. HE'S A BRIGHT GUY. AND NEVER BEFORE IN OUR HISTORY, IN MY OPINION -- NOW, THIS IS LEONARD BOSWELL'S OPINION PERHAPS -- BUT NEVER IN OUR HISTORY HAVE WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANYBODY AS QUALIFIED AS HE IS TO WALK IN THAT OVAL OFFICE AND GO RIGHT TO WORK AND DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INITIATED OR BROKE IN OR ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS USED THE VICE PRESIDENT IN SO MANY ROLES. AND HE'S READY TO GO. WITH OUR ROBUST ECONOMY RIGHT NOW, EXCEPT FOR AGRICULTURE, THE WORLD SITUATION, THE ONLY SUPERPOWER, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE OUGHT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE THAT WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT IS THAT WELL PREPARED TO DO THE JOB THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

Yepsen: LAST WEEK, SENATOR, STARPAC, STOP THE ARMS RACE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE, ENDORSED SENATOR BRADLEY OVER VICE PRESIDENT GORE. AND THEY DID SO BECAUSE SENATOR BRADLEY SAID THERE'S A LOT OF WASTE IN THE MILITARY, AND WE DON'T NEED TO INCREASE MILITARY SPENDING. WE CAN TAKE CARE OF ANY NEW NEEDS WE'VE GOT SIMPLY BY REALLOCATING WITHIN THE CURRENT LEVELS OF DEFENSE SPENDING. YOU TOOK ISSUE WITH THAT. NOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? WHY DO WE NEED MORE DEFENSE SPENDING?

Boswell: WELL, IT’S WRONG. WE DON'T NEED AN EXCESSIVE DEFENSE, BUT WE NEED AN ADEQUATE DEFENSE. WE ARE THE ONLY SUPERPOWER, AND WE DO HAVE INTERESTS IN BOTH HEMISPHERES, AND WE DO NEED TO HAVE A FORCE THAT CAN RESPOND IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES AT ONCE. AND I JUST THINK HE'S WRONG.

Yepsen: WELL, CONGRESSMAN, YOU'VE SERVED IN THE MILITARY ABOUT TWENTY YEARS.

Boswell: I DID.

Yepsen: AND ANYBODY WHO EVER PUTS ON A UNIFORM KNOWS THERE'S A LOT OF WASTE IN THE MILITARY.

Boswell: WELL, THERE'S WASTE IN A LOT OF THINGS. THERE'S PROBABLY SOME WASTE IN YOUR ORGANIZATION.

Yepsen: OH, YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT. DON'T TELL MY BOSS THAT.

Boswell: I WON'T. BUT HE MIGHT BE WATCHING THIS BUT -- WE SHOULD NEVER BE SATISFIED WITH WASTE. YOU'RE RIGHT, DAVID. YOU'RE RIGHT ON THIS SUBJECT. AND THE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT -- WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE PURSUING THAT, AND I DON'T SUGGEST FOR A SECOND WE SHOULDN'T.

Yepsen: BUT WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WASTE TO SQUEEZE OUT OF THE MILITARY IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF HIGHER SALARIES AND NEW EQUIPMENT NEEDS. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT?

Boswell: THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.

Yepsen: DO WE NEED THE F-22?

Boswell: MAYBE NOT TODAY BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, YOU DON'T DEVELOP THESE THINGS JUST OVERNIGHT. THERE'S YEARS GO INTO THAT, AND COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL YOU THAT, AS WE THINK OF THE TOTAL PICTURE, THAT THERE'LL BE A TIME WHEN THE F-15'S AND 16'S ARE START WEARING OUT, THAT WE OUGHT TO BE READY TO, AT THAT TIME, START THE UPGRADE.

Yepsen: WHAT ABOUT MORE B-2 BOMBERS?

Boswell: OH, I THINK THAT WE'RE OKAY THERE.

Glover: CONGRESSMAN, REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, MR. BRADLEY IS MOUNTING A SURPRISINGLY STRONG CHALLENGE TO VICE PRESIDENT GORE. WE STARTED THIS PROCESS THINKING THAT IT WAS INEVITABLE THAT GORE WILL GET THE NOMINATION. NOW IT'S A CONTEST. WHAT'S YOUR ADVICE TO AL GORE? WHAT SHOULD HE BE DOING THAT HE'S NOT DOING?

Boswell: HE'S DOING WHAT OTHERS HAVE SUGGESTED. HE'S SPENDING MORE TIME IN IOWA. HE UNDERSTANDS NOW THAT THE RETAIL HERE IS TO GET INTO THE CAUCUS AND THE PRECINCTS. THERE'S A LOT OF CONTACT WITH PEOPLE, AND HE'S DOING THAT, DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. HE'S GOING TO BE OVER IN MY DISTRICT MONDAY, IN SOUTHEAST IOWA. I WAS WITH HIM LAST WEEK ON VETERANS, DAY AND HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH HIM COMING FROM MARSHALLTOWN BACK TO DES MOINES AND SO ON, AND I THINK HE'S DOING THE RIGHT THINGS. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY HE GOT KIND OF A SLOW START ON THAT. THEY'VE JUGGLED THE STAFF AROUND, AND I THINK HE'S GOT A GOOD, SOLID STAFF HERE IN IOWA NOW AND WORKING HARD, AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO OKAY.

Glover: A LOT OF IOWA ACTIVISTS ARE PRAGMATISTS. THEY WANT TO WIN THE WHITE HOUSE. A LOT OF THEM LOOK AT POLLS. THEY SHOW GEORGE BUSH BEATING AL GORE, AND THEY'RE WORRIED THAT AL GORE CAN'T WIN. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO AN ACTIVIST THAT VOICES THAT CONCERN?

Boswell: WELL, I SAY THAT, FIRST OFF, THE POLLS ARE CHANGING, SO YOU CAN SAY THAT'S NARROWING ALREADY, AND I TRUST YOU'RE ALREADY AWARE OF THAT TOO AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE MORE. I THINK WE GET DOWN TO THE SHORT ROWS, AS WE SAY DOWN IN THE FARM, THEY REALIZE JUST HOW QUALIFIED AND HOW PREPARED THAT AL GORE IS, TRULY PREPARED AND QUALIFIED. WHEN WE START MAKING THE COMPARISONS, I THINK IT’S GOING TO SWING PRETTY SERIOUSLY, AND I THINK OUR PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT. I DON'T THINK THE OTHER GUY'S PREPARED TO TAKE ON THIS AWESOME RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S A TOUGH JOB.

Yepsen: DO YOU THINK SENATOR BRADLEY'S POSITION ON DEFENSE SPENDING WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO WIN IN THE SOUTH AND IN THE WEST?

Boswell: IT COULD, I THINK THAT IT COULD. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T HAD TIME, WITH WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, DAVID, TO GIVE THAT A WHOLE LOT OF THOUGHT, AND THAT'S A RECENT HAPPENING AND SO ON, BUT IT COULD.

Yepsen: WHAT ARE THE PROSPECTS FOR DEMOCRATS TO RETAKE THE U.S. HOUSE? I KNOW YOU'RE WITHIN A FEW SEATS; DICK GEPHARDT ALWAYS THINKS THERE'S A SHOT. DO YOU STILL THINK YOU'VE GOT A CHANCE?

Boswell: I THINK THERE IS. I DO THINK THAT. I REALLY DO. IN THE LAST ELECTION I DIDN'T. AND I GUESS I WAS RIGHT THERE, BUT THIS TIME I THINK THERE IS. THERE'S FIVE, SEATS AND I THINK THAT THOSE THAT ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF RECRUITING, AND SO ON, UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. YOU'VE GOT TO GO GET THE RIGHT PERSON. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE REPUBLICANS DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT TOO, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN OF WHO ARE STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND WANT TO PARTICIPATE, THEY'RE VERY QUALIFIED, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT, AND I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE MORE IN TUNE ON THE THINGS LIKE MEDICARE, AND HEALTHCARE REFORM, AND SOCIAL SECURITY EXTENSION, AND DEALING WITH THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY WORRIED ABOUT. I JUST THINK THAT MESSAGE IS COMING ACROSS, AND SO I'M VERY HOPEFUL.

Glover: LET'S GET IT BACK CLOSER TO HOME. WHY CAN'T DEMOCRATS RECRUIT MORE PEOPLE TO RUN FOR CONGRESS IN IOWA? FOUR OF THE FIVE SEATS IN THE STATE ARE HELD BY REPUBLICANS, AND I DON'T SEE A COMPETITIVE ELECTION OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

Boswell: I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO MR. TULLY FOR A DAY OR TWO, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING, BUT HE'S A VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED GUY. I DON'T KNOW THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN MIND THAT'S GOING TO STEP FORWARD. THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH CONCENTRATION GOING ON NOW FOR THE CAUCUSES AND SO ON, BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME CANDIDATES IN THE MIX HERE SOON BUT, AGAIN, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO MR. TULLY ABOUT IT. BUT THAT'S KIND OF AN AREA OF HIS RESPONSIBILITY, AND I TRUST THAT HE'S DOING HIS JOB.

Glover: WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ULTIMATE IN SELFISHNESS AND THAT'S YOUR OWN DISTRICT. I DON'T HEAR ANY REPUBLICANS MENTIONED TO RUN AGAINST YOU. ARE YOU GETTING A RIDE THIS TIME?

Boswell: I'VE NEVER HAD A RIDE IN MY LIFE, MIKE, SO I'M NOT COUNTING ON THAT, I’M NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT. I ASSUME THAT I WILL BE CHALLENGED, SO I'M JUST GOING FORTH AS IF I'LL HAVE THE MOST VIABLE CHALLENGER POSSIBLE, AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY I OPERATE. BUT, YEAH, I WOULD ENJOY A PASS, BUT I DON'T THINK I'LL GET IT, AND I'M NOT PLANNING ON IT.

Yepsen: WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT OTHER DEMOCRATS DON'T KNOW? WHY IS IT THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY DEMOCRAT IN THE U.S. HOUSE DELEGATION FROM IOWA? WHAT ARE YOU DOING RIGHT THAT MAYBE OTHER DEMOCRATS OUGHT TO BE DOING? GIVE OUT SOME ADVICE TO YOUR PARTY.

Boswell: WELL, FIRST OFF, I THINK THAT YOU CAN'T BE WAY OVER HERE OR WAY OVER THERE. I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO COME TO THE CENTER AND BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES AND BE ABLE TO COMPROMISE AND SO ON AND TRY TO -- YOU CAN'T HAVE IT ALL. IF YOU CAN'T HAVE THE WHOLE LOAF, WELL, BE SATISFIED TO TAKE A SLICE OR TWO. YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THAT A FEW TIMES. I'M WILLING TO DO THAT. I'LL TAKE MY SLICE OR TWO TODAY, THEN COME BACK TOMORROW, COME BACK THE NEXT TIME. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'VE GOT TO BE A GOOD LISTENER. YOUVE GOT TO LISTEN AND YOU GOT TO SPEND TIME WITH THE PEOPLE. I COME BACK, BASICALLY, EVERY WEEKEND AND GO OUT THERE AND I'M TALKING TO THEM…

Borg: SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU DESCRIBE YOURSELF AS A CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRAT.

Boswell: WELL, I'M CERTAINLY A FISCALLY-RESPONSIBLE DEMOCRAT.

Glover: IS YOUR PARTY READY TO HEAR THAT MESSAGE?

Boswell: WELL, SURE THEY ARE. THERE'S A NUMBER OF US IN THE U.S. CONGRESS THAT FEEL THIS WAY. THERE'S QUITE A FEW.

Borg: CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE EFFORT TO COME BACK TO IOWA TO BE ON IOWA PRESS. I KNOW THAT YOU --

Boswell: DEAN, WHEN YOU CALL, I COME. [ LAUGHING. ]

Borg: WE'LL DO IT AGAIN.

Boswell: ALL RIGHT.

Borg: ON OUR NEXT EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS," WE FOCUS ON THE UPCOMING IOWA LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND JOINING US, GOVERNOR TOM VILSACK, WHO'S COMPLETING HIS FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE. GOVERNOR VILSACK WILL DISCUSS HIS PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THE SECOND SESSION OF IOWA'S 78TH IOWA GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND HIS PERSONAL PRIORITIES AS GOVERNOR. THAT'S NEXT SUNDAY AT NOON AND 7:00. I HOPE YOU WATCH. UNTIL THEN, I'M DEAN BORG. THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.

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