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Borg: THE COUNTDOWN CONTINUES TO THE IOWA CAUCUSES OF 2000 AND THE CAMPAIGNS ARE INTENSIFYING. WE'LL TALK POLICY AND POLITICS WITH THE FRONT-RUNNER FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT, TEXAS GOVERNOR GEORGE W. BUSH, ON THIS EDITION OF IOWA PRESS.

FUNDING FOR IOWA PRESS WAS PROVIDED BY FRIENDS OF IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION. AND BY THE IOWA BANKERS ASSOCIATION... FOR PERSONAL, BUSINESS, AND COMMERCIAL NEEDS, IOWA BANKS HELP IOWANS REACH THEIR FINANCIAL GOALS.

THIS IS THE SUNDAY, DECEMBER 5^th, EDITION OF IOWA PRESS. HERE IS DEAN BORG.

Borg: IN THE EARLY BEGINNINGS OF THE CAMPAIGN OF 2000, THERE WAS A JAM-PACKED FIELD OF CONTENDERS SEEKING THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT. IN FACT, IN VARIOUS STAGES OF THE CAMPAIGN, 13 PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFULS HAVE BEEN IN THAT CHASE. THE FIELD HAS BEEN WHITTLED TO JUST SIX CONTENDERS NOW, WITH A WINNOWING TAKING PLACE WELL BEFORE THE FIRST-IN-THE-NATION IOWA CAUCUSES, STILL FIFTY DAYS AWAY. THE WINNOWING WAS SPURRED BY THE CANDIDACY OF OUR GUEST TODAY, TEXAS GOVERNOR GEORGE W. BUSH, WHO ESTABLISHED HUGE MARGINS IN THE POLLS AND IN FUNDRAISING. GOVERNOR BUSH, WELCOME BACK TO IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION AND IOWA PRESS.

Bush: THANK YOU, DEAN, IT'S NICE TO BE BACK AGAIN.

Borg: AND WE SHOULD SAY, GOVERNOR BUSH, BEFORE WE BEGIN THE QUESTIONING HERE THAT OUR QUESTIONS AND YOUR RESPONSES ARE AS OF DECEMBER 1^ST WHEN WE'RE TAPING THIS PROGRAM.

Bush: YES, SIR.

Borg: ACROSS THE TABLE, REPORTERS DAVID YEPSEN OF THE DES MOINES REGISTER AND MIKE GLOVER OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS.

Glover: GOVERNOR, YOUR TRIP TO IOWA THIS TIME IS FOR YOU TO SPELL OUT YOUR PROPOSALS FOR TAXES AND THE ECONOMY. STEPPING BACK, WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS TAX CUT PACKAGE? WHAT'S THE DRIVING THEME BEHIND IT?

Bush: TWO THINGS, MIKE, ONE IS PRODUCTIVITY INCREASE. THIS TAX CUT WILL BE AN INSURANCE POLICY AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL ECONOMIC SLOWDOWN. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE RECOGNIZE IS THAT ECONOMISTS ARE SOMETIMES WRONG, AND THE PRESIDENT ACTS FOR THE BEST BUT MUST PREPARE FOR THE WORST. AND SO THIS TAX CUT IS GOING TO BE A ECONOMIC STIMULUS TO KEEP THE ECONOMY GROWING, BUT ALSO, IT'S A PLAN TO MAKE THE CODE MORE FAIR AND MORE EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND MORE SIMPLE. ONE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS PARTS OF OUR CURRENT TAX CODE IS THAT THERE ARE FOLKS WHO LIVE NEAR POVERTY, WHO WORK HARD EVERY SINGLE DAY TO ACCESS THE MIDDLE CLASS WHO PAY A HIGH MARGINAL RATE. THE DEFINITION OF A MARGINAL RATE IS EVERY DOLLAR YOU EARN, WHAT IS THE TAX ON DOLLAR EARNED. AND BECAUSE THEY HEAD INTO THE TAX BRACKET, AND LOSE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT, A SINGLE MOM WITH TWO KIDS WHO MAY BE A WAITRESS EARNING $22,000 PAYS A HIGHER RATE ON EVERY ADDITIONAL DOLLAR EARNED THAN, SAY, A STOCKBROKER EARNING $220,000. THIS ISN'T RIGHT, AND MY PLAN ADDRESSES THAT BY DROPPING THE LOWEST RATE IN THE TAX CODE TO 10 PERCENT AND ALLOWING FOR A $1,000-PER-CHILD

DEDUCTION, TAX CREDIT PER CHILD.

Glover: AN EMERGING ISSUE IN THE TAX DEBATE IS INTERNET TAXES. WHAT SHOULD THE NATION'S POLICY BE TOWARD INTERNET TAXES, BOTH COMMERCE ON THE INTERNET AND ACCESS ON IT.

Bush: WELL, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE OUGHT TO BE ANY TAXES FOR ACCESS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS UNDER MY LEADERSHIP, WE REMOVED THE ONLY VESTIGE OF AN INTERNET ACCESS TAX. I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY TO DECIDE ON COMMERCE; I REALLY DO. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INTERESTING DEBATE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT INTERNET TRADE HELPS BRICKS-AND-MORTAR BUSINESSES OR WHETHER IT HURTS, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO EXTEND A MORATORIUM, ON THE INTERNET JUST TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE AS WE HEAD OUT TO THE 21ST CENTURY.

Yepsen: WELL, GOVERNOR, YOU'RE GETTING IT FROM BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM ON THE THIS TAX CUT --

Bush: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOOD OR BAD.

Yepsen: WELL, IS IT? I MEAN THE DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING THAT IT'S TOO BIG, AND SOME OF YOUR CONSERVATIVE COLLEAGUES IN THE RACE ARE SAYING IT'S TOO SMALL AND DOESN'T DO ENOUGH. SO HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO ALL OF THAT?

Bush: WELL, THIS IS A REALISTIC PLAN. IT CUTS THE TAXES FOR EVERYBODY. MY PLAN CUTS THE UPPER RATE FROM 39.6 TO 33 PERCENT. EVERYBODY GETS A TAX CUT. IF YOU'RE A FAMILY OF FOUR EARNING 35,000, YOU PAY NO TAXES. THE PLAN REMOVES SIX MILLION FAMILIES FROM THE TAX CODE. IF YOU'RE A PERSON MAKING 50,000, YOUR TAXES ARE CUT IN HALF. IF YOU'RE A PERSON MAKING 75,000, YOUR TAXES ARE CUT IN A QUARTER. SO THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL CUT. IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL CUT. BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT BY USING CONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS, WE PROJECT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE $580-BILLION OF SURPLUS OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME -- SURPLUS BEYOND THE SOCIAL SECURITY, SURPLUS BEYOND THE CURRENT BASELINES OF THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET NOW IN PLACE. AND THIS CODE -- AND THIS TAX CUT CUTS $480 BILLION. SO IT'S REASONABLE, IT'S REALISTIC. THE VICE PRESIDENT GORE CALLS ANY TAX CUT RISKY. WHAT'S RISKY IS TO GIVE CONGRESS SURPLUS MONEY TO SPEND. WHAT'S RISKY IS TO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT IS UNWILLING TO PASS MONEY BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS.

Yepsen: HOW DO YOUR TAX POLICIES DIFFER FROM THOSE OF VICE PRESIDENT GORE'S OR SENATOR BRADLEY'S?

Bush: AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, NEITHER OF THEM BELIEVE WE OUGHT TO CUT TAXES, WHICH MEANS BOTH BELIEVE WE OUGHT TO EXPAND GOVERNMENT, AND SO I JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY. I BELIEVE WE OUGHT TO SET BASIC PRIORITIES. MY PRIORITIES ARE MAKING SURE THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM IS SECURE AND STRONG. MY PRIORITY IS BUILDING UP THE DEFENSES, AND I'VE GIVEN A SPEECH TO THAT EFFECT. MY PRIORITY IS PASSING POWER BACK FROM WASHINGTON TO LOCAL JURISDICTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN. BUT IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER, INSTEAD OF INCREASING GOVERNMENT, I WANT TO PASS IT BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS. THAT'S GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY, BUT IT ALSO HELPS PEOPLE ACCESS THE MIDDLE CLASS, AND THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR A BANNER FOR OUR REPUBLICAN PARTY TO CARRY INTO THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS IN THE YEAR 2000.

Yepsen: ISN'T THAT A NEW WRINKLE FOR REPUBLICANS TO BE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE AT THE LOW END OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM?

Bush: MAYBE IT IS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE -- LISTEN, ONE OF THE DREAMS THAT I HAVE IS THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD CAN ACCESS THE MIDDLE CLASS. THAT'S WHAT THE AMERICAN DREAM IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE THE FRUITS OF THEIR LABOR. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A SINGLE MOM, WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST JOBS IN AMERICA, BEING A SINGLE MOM, WORKING HARD AND SHE'S MAKING 22,000, AND FOR EVERY ADDITIONAL DOLLAR SHE EARNS SHE GETS TAXED MORE THAN A WEALTHY STOCKBROKER, THAT IS UNFAIR, AND I INTEND TO CHANGE THAT UNDER MY CODE.

Borg: I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE EVEN MORE OF A GLOBAL VIEW OF YOURSELF. SPEAK TO THE CAUCUS GOER. WHY SHOULD YOU, GEORGE W. BUSH, BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT?

Bush: WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, DEAN. I'M RUNNING BECAUSE I WANT TO CHANGE THE TONE IN WASHINGTON. I BELIEVE WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO CAN LIFT OUR SPIRITS AND LIFT OUR SIGHTS, A PRESIDENT WHO CAN GET RID OF THIS BUSINESS ABOUT ZERO-SUM POLITICS -- I WIN, YOU LOSE, OR YOU WIN, I LOSE ATTITUDE -- A PRESIDENT WHO KNOWS HOW TO SET A CLEAR AGENDA. MY AGENDA'S GOING TO BE CUTTING TAXES, STRENGTHENING THE MILITARY TO KEEP THE PEACE, MAKING SURE THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM IS STRONG AND SECURE FOR OUR ELDERLY. I'VE GOT A TAX -- I'VE GOT AN EDUCATION AGENDA THAT'S STRONG AND POSITIVE THAT TRUSTS LOCAL PEOPLE TO RUN THE SCHOOLS. I'VE GOT A RECORD OF LEADERSHIP. I'M RUNNING AGAINST GOOD PEOPLE IN THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUSES AND THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES, BUT I'M THE ONE CANDIDATE WHO'S HELD A CHIEF-EXECUTIVE-OFFICER JOB. AND I REALIZE BEING GOVERNOR OF TEXAS IS NOT AKIN TO BEING PRESIDENT, BUT I'M GOING TO REMIND THE PEOPLE OF IOWA THAT IF TEXAS WERE A NATION, IT WOULD BE THE 11TH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD; THAT I'VE SET A POSITIVE TONE IN MY STATE; THAT I'VE GOT A RECORD OF CUTTING TAXES AND REFORMING WELFARE, OF TORT REFORM; THAT I'VE GOT A POSITIVE RECORD AND A GOOD AGENDA, AND THAT'S WHY I'M RUNNING.

Glover: LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT TONE FOR A SECOND, IF WE COULD. WE'RE HEADING INTO THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE THESE PRIMARIES AND CAUCUSES START TO HAPPEN, AND THERE'S SOME INDICATION THAT THINGS ARE STARTING TO HEAT UP A LITTLE BIT. YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN CAMPAIGNS IN THE PAST, INCLUDING YOUR FATHER'S, WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PRETTY HARD, HIGH ONES THROWN. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REACT IF THEY GET THROWN AT YOU, AND WILL YOU THROW BACK?

Bush: WELL, MIKE, I -- POLITICS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE HIGH, HARD ONE, AS YOU SAID. AND I'M GOING TO DO MY LEVEL BEST TO ELEVATE THE DISCOURSE, TO SAY "HERE'S WHAT I BELIEVE" AND "HERE'S HOW I MAKE MY DECISIONS" AND "HERE'S MY RECORD," WHICH SHOULD BE A GOOD INDICATION OF HOW I'M GOING TO PERFORM AS PRESIDENT. I WILL DEFEND MYSELF BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S MISINFORMATION IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS, AND I'LL DEFEND MYSELF AND DEFEND MY RECORD, BUT I'LL DO SO IN A WAY THAT BRINGS DIGNITY TO THE PROCESS.

Glover: DO YOU EXPECT TO GET HIT, PARTICULARLY BY STEVE FORBES?

Bush: I CERTAINLY HOPE STEVE LEARNS THE LESSON FROM THE PAST. I FELT LIKE IN 1996 THAT HE HAD -- THAT HIS CAMPAIGN HE RAN AGAINST BOB DOLE SET A BAD TONE. AND REPUBLICANS, NOT JUST ME, REPUBLICANS ARE DEMANDING A POSITIVE CAMPAIGN FROM ALL THE CANDIDATES, AND I HOPE HE'S LEARNED HIS LESSON. I BET HE HAS. I HOPE HE HAS.

Glover: AND STARTING THIS WEEK, WE'RE STARTING THE NEXT WAVE OF CAMPAIGN DEBATES. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO ACCOMPLISH IN THIS NEXT WAVE OF CAMPAIGN DEBATES?

Bush: I BELIEVE I NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THE VIEWERS THAT I KNOW HOW TO LEAD, THAT I HAVE BEEN IN A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP, AND AS A -- NOT ONLY AS A SUCCESSFUL GOVERNOR, BUT THAT I KNOW HOW TO BE A SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT BY SETTING A CLEAR AGENDA. I'LL EXPLAIN MY AGENDA. I LOOK FORWARD TO EXPLAINING THE WAYS THAT I MAKE DECISIONS. I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FORUMS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FORUM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FORUM HERE IN IOWA.

Yepsen: GOVERNOR, TRADE IS ON THE NATION'S POLITICAL AGENDA THIS WEEK WITH THE TALKS IN SEATTLE. YOU'RE A FREE TRADER.

Bush: I AM.

Yepsen: BUT I WANT YOU TO ADDRESS THE WORKERS WHO THINK THAT FREE TRADE IS A RIP-OFF. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE 54-YEAR-OLD, LAID-OFF WORKER WHO JUST LOST HIS JOB THAT WAS SHIPPED TO MEXICO? WHY IS FREE TRADE A GOOD DEAL FOR HIM? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR PEOPLE LIKE THAT IN OUR SOCIETY?

Bush: I THINK FOR THE ONE EXAMPLE YOU CITE, DAVE, THE PERSON WHO YOU CAN CLEARLY IDENTIFY HAS LOST HIS JOB BECAUSE OF A JOB GOING TO MEXICO IS A PERSON THAT WE'VE GOT TO SAY, "WE'VE GOT TO FIND YOU JOB TRAINING SO WE CAN GET YOU A HIGHER-PAYING, BETTER JOB." MY ARGUMENT IS THAT FREE TRADE ENABLES AMERICA TO BE MORE PRODUCTIVE AND TO CREATE HIGHER-PAYING, HIGHER-QUALITY JOBS. THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF FREE TRADE FOR AMERICA. I READILY CONCEDE THERE MAY BE AN INCIDENT IN TIME WHERE SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN PAINED BY FREE TRADE, BUT THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE PAINED BY PROTECTIONISM AND ISOLATIONISM AS WELL, EVEN MORESO. IF WE WALL OURSELVES FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD, I BELIEVE IT WILL LEAD TO AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN. AND AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN WILL HURT WORKERS A LOT WORSE THAN FREE TRADE. AND SO MY ARGUMENT IS, AS YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES, IT IS THE FEARFUL WHO BUILD WALLS; AND I'M NOT FEARFUL OF OUR WORKERS' ABILITY TO COMPETE IN THE WORLD.

Yepsen: WILL YOU FOLLOW TRADE POLICIES THAT PROTECT THE U.S. ENVIRONMENT AND COMBAT CHILD LABOR AROUND THE WORLD?

Bush: I WILL FOLLOW POLICIES THAT HAVE GOT REASONABLE ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY BASED UPON SCIENCE. AND, OF COURSE, WE WANT THERE TO BE WORKING CONDITIONS AROUND THE WORLD THAT ARE REASONABLE. BUT WHAT I WON'T DO -- I'M GOING TO MAKE TWO POINTS ON THE CODICILS THAT SOMETIMES GET ADDED TO TRADE AGREEMENTS. I WILL NOT ALLOW FOR ANTI-FREE TRADERS TO SCUTTLE FREE TRADE PLANS, IF I'M THE PRESIDENT, BY ATTACHING ONEROUS CODICILS, WHETHER IT BE RELATED TO THE LABOR LAWS AND/OR ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. AND SECONDLY, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE'S A VIBRANT ECONOMY, A VIBRANT MARKETPLACE IN THIRD-WORLD COUNTRIES OR IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES, IT IS MORE LIKELY THAT THEY'LL HAVE THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO PROTECT THEIR ENVIRONMENT. IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT THERE WILL BE GOOD LABOR LAWS WITH TRADE. TRADE IS FREEDOM. TRADE YIELDS FREEDOM BECAUSE OF THE MARKETPLACE AND ITS PROMISE AND ITS POTENTIAL.

Yepsen: HOW DO YOUR VIEWS ON TRADE DIFFER FROM THOSE OF VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE?

Bush: I'M NOT SURE WHAT HIS POSITIONS ARE. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW HE REACTS TO THE PRESSURE OF THE AFL-CIO. MY POSITION IS I'M A FREE TRADER. I BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OUGHT TO HAVE FAST-TRACK NEGOTIATING AUTHORITY. THIS ADMINISTRATION HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO HAVE FAST-TRACK NEGOTIATING AUTHORITY. FAST-TRACK NEGOTIATING AUTHORITY MEANS THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN NEGOTIATE WITH MARKET ECONOMIES, SAY, IN OUR OWN HEMISPHERE TO OPEN UP MARKETS FOR AG PRODUCTS FROM IOWA. WE'LL SEE HOW HE REACTS.

Glover: SOME CONSERVATIVES IN YOUR PARTY, INCLUDING SOME OF OUR YOUR CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES, ARE SUSPICIOUS OF YOUR POSITION ON ABORTION, YOUR OPPOSITION TO ABORTION. THEY HAVE ASKED YOU TO PUT A LITMUS TEST ON JUDGES YOU WOULD NAME TO THE SUPREME COURT AND TO OTHER FEDERAL COURTS REQUIRING THEM TO BE ANTI-ABORTION. YOU HAVE REFUSED. WHY WON'T YOU TELL YOUR CONSERVATIVE BRETHREN THAT YOU'LL PUT THAT LITMUS TEST IN PLACE?

Bush: LET ME SAY TWO THINGS ABOUT THE ABORTION ISSUE. I'VE SET A GOAL. IF I'M THE PRESIDENT, I'LL SET A GOAL, AND IT'S THIS GOAL: THAT EVERY CHILD BORN OR UNBORN OUGHT TO BE PROTECTED IN LAW AND WELCOMED IN LIFE. AND I'LL LEAD THE COUNTRY TO APPRECIATE LIFE. THAT'S ONE OF THE JOBS OF A PRESIDENT IS TO SET AN IDEAL. AND AN IDEAL IS AN APPRECIATION AND RESPECT FOR THE SANCTITY OF LIFE, NOT ONLY FOR THE UNBORN BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GHETTOS OR THE ELDERLY. AND SECONDLY, I HAVE SAID WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. I'LL NAME PEOPLE WHO STRICTLY INTERPRET THE CONSTITUTION AND WHO DO NOT USE THE BENCH FROM WHICH TO LEGISLATE. I'VE NAMED JUDGES. I'M THE ONE CANDIDATE IN THE RACE WHO'S GOT A RECORD OF NAMING SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, AND I HAVE DONE SO IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. I'VE NAMED FOUR HIGHLY-COMPETENT, VERY GOOD JUDGES.

Yepsen: GOVERNOR, WE'VE GOT A VARIETY OF ISSUES HERE TO GO THROUGH, SO I WANT TO START OUT WITH THE ENVIRONMENT. YOU'RE BEING CRITICIZED FOR YOUR HANDLING OF THE ENVIRONMENT IN TEXAS. SPECIFICALLY, PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THE TEXAS ENVIRONMENT IS A POLLUTED ONE AND THAT YOU'VE NOT BEEN A GOOD STEWARD OF THE ENVIRONMENT. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? TWO PART QUESTION: HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT, AND WHY WOULD PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH BE A GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL PRESIDENT?

Bush: WELL, FIRST LET ME GIVE YOU THE FACTS. I UNDERSTAND POLITICS SOMETIMES CAN GET IN THE WAY OF THE FACTS. TOXIC EMISSIONS IN THE AIR ARE SUBSTANTIALLY DOWN SINCE I'VE BEEN THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS. INDUSTRIAL EMISSIONS ARE DOWN BY 11 PERCENT. I'M THE FIRST GOVERNOR IN MY STATE'S HISTORY THAT SAID TO GRANDFATHERED PLANTS, PLANTS WHO'VE BEEN GRANDFATHERED UNDER THE OLD CLEAN-AIR ACT, GET IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CURRENT LAW OR THERE'LL BE A CONSEQUENCE. I SIGNED TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT WILL HAVE THE EFFECT OF REMOVING 5.5 MILLION AUTOMOBILES OFF TEXAS ROADS. WE'VE BEEN ACTIVE ABOUT CLEANING UP INDUSTRIAL WASTE SITES CALLED BROWNFIELDS, SO NOW WE'VE GOT PRODUCTIVE LAND IN MANY OF OUR INNER CITIES. THE DRINKING WATER IN TEXAS IS CLEANER SINCE I HAVE BECOME THE GOVERNOR. WHAT I HAVE DONE IS SET HIGH STANDARDS. AND AS OPPOSED TO A WASHINGTON D.C. MENTALITY THAT OFTEN COINCIDES WITH ENVIRONMENTALISM, I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN SUE OR REGULATE OUR WAY TO CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER. WHAT I BELIEVE IT REQUIRES A PRESIDENT OR A GOVERNOR, IN MY CASE, THAT KNOWS HOW TO LEAD BY BRINGING STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER TO SAY, "HERE'S THE GOAL, AND WE'LL WORK WITH YOU TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL." AND SO I'VE GOT A POSITIVE RECORD. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ADS ARE SAYING, AND SOME OF THE EXTREMIST GROUPS ARE TRYING TO POLLUTE MY RECORD. AND ALL I'M GOING TO DO IS TALK ABOUT THE FACTS, DAVE.

Glover: THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S BEING RAISED THESE DAYS BECAUSE OF THE MICROSOFT ANTITRUST CASE, AND WITHOUT ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT CASE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE TO COMMENT ON INDIVIDUAL CASES, WHAT WOULD A PRESIDENT BUSH TAKE AS AN APPROACH TO ANTITRUST POLICY? HAS THE GOVERNMENT BEEN TOO WEAK? TOO LAX? TOO INATTENTIVE? HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH THAT?

Bush: MIKE, I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF FACTS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO GATHERS FACTS AND ACTS UPON THE FACTS. AND I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE. RIGHT HERE IN IOWA I HEAR ALL THE TIME FROM PEOPLE ABOUT CONGLOMERATIONS OF PACKERS, AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING, "WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?" AND THE FIRST ANSWER IS MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FACTS ARE AND HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT WILL GATHER THE FACTS. AND IF, IN FACT, THERE'S PRICE FIXING AS A RESULT OF CONGLOMERATIONS, IF, IN FACT, PEOPLE ARE BEING SQUEEZED OUT OF BUSINESS THROUGH UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES, I'LL ASK THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO ENFORCE THE ANTITRUST LAWS.

Glover: SOME OF YOUR CRITICS SAY THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT. THEY SAY YOU'VE RAISED A LOT OF MONEY FROM BUSINESS GROUPS AND THAT YOU WON'T BE VERY ATTENTIVE TO ANTITRUST ISSUES.

Bush: WELL, YOU KNOW SOMETHING, I MAY HAVE RAISED SOME MONEY FROM BUSINESS GROUPS, BUT I'M GETTING MY VOTES FROM FARMERS HERE IN IOWA.

Yepsen: ANOTHER ISSUE, GOVERNOR, FACING THE COUNTRY ARE RACE RELATIONS.

Bush: YEAH.

Yepsen: WHY WOULD YOU BE THE BEST PRESIDENT TO FOSTER BETTER RELATIONS AMONG THE RACES IN THIS COUNTRY?

Bush: I'VE GOT A RECORD IN MY STATE, DAVID, OF JUDGING PEOPLE BASED UPON THEIR HEART AND THEIR SOUL. I SPEAK OUT LOUD AND CLEAR AGAINST BIGOTRY AND PREJUDICE. I BELIEVE THAT A PRESIDENT OUGHT NOT TO BE LUMPING GROUPS OF PEOPLE, PITTING ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE AGAINST ANOTHER. I'VE BEEN A UNITER, NOT A DIVIDER IN MY STATE OF TEXAS. AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THE VOTERS IN MY STATE HAVE RESPONDED IN KIND. THEY SAY WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP. AFTER ALL, I GOT NEARLY 50 PERCENT OF THE HISPANIC VOTE IN TEXAS. I GOT A HUGE VOTE AMONGST THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, MORESO THAN MOST REPUBLICANS GET. I'VE GOT A RECORD.

Glover: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THESE CAUCUSES DO IS THEY ALLOW US TO GET JUST A BIT PAROCHIAL, SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR JUST A SECOND.

Bush: THAT'S GOOD. WELL, YOU SHOULD.

Glover: THERE'S BEEN AN ISSUE HERE SURROUNDING ACCESS AIR, A START-UP AIRLINE THAT'S HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS. IT'S RIGHT NOW GOING TO BANKRUPTCY. THAT RAISES A LARGER QUESTION OF WHAT SHOULD THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S ROLE BE IN PROMOTING COMPETITION AMONG THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY IN RURAL PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT ARE UNDERSERVED?

Bush: YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION. FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHEN IT COMES TO THE AIR, THE ROLE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TO PROMOTE SAFETY -- SAFETY AMONGST THE AIRLINES, SAFETY WITH EQUIPMENT, SAFETY WITH RADARS AND HOW THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM WORKS. THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNMENT IS ALSO ALWAYS TO ENHANCE COMPETITION AND TO ENHANCE CONSUMER AVAILABILITY, WHETHER IT BE IN AIRLINES OR TELECOMMUNICATIONS OR IN ELECTRICITY FOR THAT MATTER. AND SO I BELIEVE THE MORE PRODUCT AVAILABLE, THE BETTER IT IS FOR CONSUMERS.

Glover: WELL, WHAT'S HAPPENED TO RURAL AMERICA, PARTICULARLY WITH AIR SERVICES? IT LOOKS AS THOUGH RURAL AMERICA IS UNDERSERVED. IS THAT YOUR VIEW?

Bush: WELL, SOME CASES THERE ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDERSERVED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T JUSTIFY -- I MEAN PEOPLE CAN'T JUSTIFY THE INVESTMENT. NOW, WHAT GOVERNMENT CANNOT DO IS TAKE THE RISK OUT OF CAPITALISM AND SHOULDN'T. THE GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IS TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO RISK CAPITAL, BUT GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T BE GUARANTEEING PROFIT. THAT'S NOT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT. MIKE, SO, THEREFORE, IF A ROUTE IS NOT PROFITABLE, THAT'S THE MARKETPLACE, AND THE GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IS NOT TO REGULATE THE MARKETPLACE.

Glover: ARE YOU GOING TO TELL IOWA CAUCUS GOERS WHO ARE ANGRY ABOUT AIRFARES OUT OF DES MOINES, IOWA, TO TAKE THEIR --

Bush: THAT'S DIFFERENT; YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT -- DES MOINES, IOWA'S NOT RURAL. DES MOINES IS A CITY. SURELY, YOU'RE NOT DIMINISHING DES MOINES. I THINK DES MOINES IS A CITY AND A VIBRANT CITY, IT'S NOT RURAL AMERICA.

Yepsen: IS THERE ANY CHANCE YOU CAN GET TEXAS AIRLINES TO START FLYING MORE ROUTES OUT OF IOWA?

Bush: YOU MEAN SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, WHICH I DO BELIEVE IN COMPETITION. THERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A PLACE WHERE COMPETITION HAS HELPED THE CONSUMER. SOUTHWEST AIRLINES CAME IN WITH A NO-FRILL AIRLINE, AND IN MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTRY HAS FORCED FARES DOWN.

Yepsen: GOVERNOR, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE OF THOSE POP QUIZZES.

Bush: BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE.

Yepsen: WELL, I ASK THE QUESTIONS, OKAY?

Bush: THAT’S RIGHT. I FORGOT. I LOST MY HEAD, I'M SORRY.

Yepsen: BUT THE QUESTION IS THE CRITICISM THAT HAS BEEN MADE ABOUT YOU AS A RESULT OF THAT EPISODE IS THAT YOU'RE A LIGHTWEIGHT ON FOREIGN POLICY QUESTIONS, THAT YOU'RE A GOVERNOR, YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH FOREIGN POLICY. HOW DO YOU ANSWER THAT?

Bush: WELL, I ANSWERED IT WITH A SPEECH AT THE REAGAN LIBRARY THE OTHER DAY, THAT WAS A SPEECH THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW I INTEND TO KEEP THE PEACE. A PERSON RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT MUST DO TWO THINGS: LAY OUT A VISION ON HOW TO KEEP THE -- WHEN IT COMES TO FOREIGN POLICY -- LAY OUT A VISION ON HOW TO KEEP THE PEACE AND CONVINCE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT HE'S GOT THE LEADERSHIP QUALITIES NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THE VISION COMES TO BE. I SPOKE LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT BEING A REALIST WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORLD. AND THE THRESHOLD QUESTION THAT ANY POTENTIAL PRESIDENT HAS TO ANSWER IS WILL THE UNITED STATES RETREAT WITHIN OUR BORDERS OR WILL WE LEAD THE WORLD TO PEACE? I CHOOSE THE LATTER. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENT TO SAY LOUD AND CLEAR TO AMERICA "I INTEND TO KEEP THE PEACE." THERE'S THREE WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORLD IS A SAFER AND MORE PEACEFUL WORLD. ONE IS TO PROMOTE FREE TRADE. I BELIEVE FREE TRADE WILL MAKE THE WORLD MORE PEACEFUL. SECONDLY IS TO PROMOTE OUR ALLIANCES. I INTEND TO STRENGTHEN THE ALLIANCES. AND IN MY SPEECH, I TALK CLEARLY ABOUT OUR ALLIANCES IN THE FAR EAST AND OUR ALLIANCES IN EUROPE. WHEN I TALK ABOUT ALLIANCES, THERE'S AN UNDERLYING THEME AS WELL, AND THAT IS THE UNITED STATES CANNOT GO IT ALONE IN ORDER TO PROMOTE THE PEACE. WE MUST DEPEND UPON OUR FRIENDS AS WELL. WE NEED TO BE PEACEMAKERS, NOT PEACEKEEPERS. AND SO I INTEND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK WITH OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES TO WITHDRAW OUR TROOPS OUT OF THE BALKANS SO THAT THEY GET TO KEEP THE PEACE, AND WE'LL HELP MAKE THE PEACE. AND FINALLY, I TALKED A LOT ABOUT STRENGTHENING THE MILITARY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A MILITARY THAT IS STRONG WITH HIGH MORALE IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PEACE. I LAID OUT MY STRATEGIC VISION, WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR AMERICA. IT'S IN OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS TO HAVE PEACE IN OUR OWN HEMISPHERE. IT'S IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST TO HAVE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. IT'S IN OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS TO REDEFINE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA FROM ONE OF STRATEGIC PARTNERS TO ONE OF COMPETITORS. IT'S IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST TO DEAL WITH RUSSIA, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO NUCLEAR SAFETY. SO I TALK LOUD AND CLEAR. THERE'S NOT ONE CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THIS TIME WHO'S EVER BEEN THE PRESIDENT.

Glover: IT'S IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST TO ONCE AGAIN GET PAROCHIAL.

Bush: GOOD TRANSITION, MICHAEL.

Glover: THANK YOU. THE NATION'S ECONOMY IS MOVING ALONG PRETTY GOOD, BUT THE FARM ECONOMY'S IN THE TANK.

Bush: RIGHT.

Glover: AS PRESIDENT, WOULD YOU RECOMMEND CHANGES IN THE FREEDOM TO FARM ACT TO REACT TO THAT?

Bush: MIKE, I BELIEVE IN FREE TRADE. I BELIEVE THE NEXT PRESIDENT MUST WORK TIRELESSLY TO OPEN UP MARKETS FOR AG PRODUCTS. AND I'LL TELL YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE, ALLOWING CHINA INTO THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION. IF PEOPLE TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT WHAT CHINA'S ENTRY INTO THE WTO MEANS FOR IOWA FARMERS, THEY WILL UNDERSTAND MY POINT OF OPENING UP MARKETS. THE TARIFFS ON PRODUCTS WILL BE DROPPED SUBSTANTIALLY, THE NUMBER OF MILLIONS OF METRIC TONS OF IOWA PRODUCTS OR PRODUCTS GROWN IN IOWA WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASED IN CHINA. IT IS TO THE FARMER'S BEST INTERESTS THAT WE OPEN UP MARKETS ALL AROUND THE WORLD. I DON'T BELIEVE THE FREEDOM TO FARM ACT HAS BEEN GIVEN PROPER TIME TO WORK. IN THE MEANTIME, I SUPPORT THE EMERGENCY GRANTS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF CONGRESS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS THE PRESIDENT.

Yepsen: ANOTHER ISSUE FACING THE COUNTRY IS HEALTH CARE. HOW WOULD YOUR HEALTH CARE PROPOSALS AND ATTITUDES TOWARDS HEALTH CARE DIFFER FROM THOSE OF AL GORE'S?

Bush: WELL, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU MY ATTITUDES, AND YOU CAN MAKE THE COMPARISONS. THE AMERICAN CONSUMER WANTS AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE WITH HIGH-QUALITY PRODUCT. THAT STANDS IN STARK CONTRAST TO AN ADMINISTRATION, BY THE WAY, THAT TRIED TO NATIONALIZE HEALTH CARE. I MEAN IT WASN'T ALL THAT LONG AGO THAT THE CLINTON-GORE ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO NATIONALIZE THE ENTIRE HEALTH CARE, AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ROSE UP AGAINST IT. I BELIEVE WE OUGHT TO GIVE CONSUMERS MORE CHOICE. I BELIEVE WE OUGHT TO HAVE HMO REFORM. I KNOW WE NEED MEDICARE REFORM TO GIVE SENIORS' MORE OPTIONS, MORE PRODUCTS TO CHOOSE FROM TO TAILOR THEIR PRODUCT TO THEIR NEED, AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE GOVERNMENT OUGHT TO HELP PAY PREMIUMS FOR SENIORS WHO CANNOT AFFORD MEDICARE. I KNOW WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE UNINSURED. NOW, ONE WAY TO DEAL WITH THE UNINSURED -- THERE'S A LOT OF UNINSURED PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUNG AND HEALTHY WHO CHOOSE NOT TO HAVE INSURANCE. WE NEED TO DESIGN PRODUCTS LIKE MEDICAL SAVINGS ACCOUNTS FOR THEM SO THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO BUY INSURANCE, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO DEAL WITH THE SINGLE MOM WHO'S WORKING, WHO CHANGES JOBS. OBVIOUSLY PORTABILITY IS NECESSARY. BUT WE NEED TO WORK A SYSTEM WITH THE STATES SO THAT THERE IS A BASIC INSURANCE POLICY THAT'S AFFORDABLE FOR HER, THAT SHE MAY BE ABLE TO COMBINE SOME OF THE CHILDREN'S HEALTH INSURANCE MONEY, IF SHE'S GOT CHILDREN, TO MAKE AN AFFORDABLE PACKAGE. AND SO THE WAY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE IS TO ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO INSIST UPON QUALITY CARE, THAT PATIENTS OUGHT TO HAVE AS MUCH CHOICE AS POSSIBLE, AS MUCH FREEDOM AS POSSIBLE, THAT HEALTH CARE OUGHT TO BE INSURED IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, NOT THROUGH A GOVERNMENT PLAN, AND THAT THERE OUGHT TO BE A MYRIAD OF OPTIONS FOR CONSUMERS.

Glover: IT WOULDN'T BE AN OFFICIAL IOWA PRESS SHOW IF WE DIDN'T JUST TALK ABOUT POLITICS.

Bush: LET'S DO IT.

Glover: LAST COUPLE OF ELECTION CYCLES THERE'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT INFLUENCE FROM A THIRD PARTY OUTSIDE THE REPUBLICAN/DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IS IT YOUR SENSE, THIS TIME AROUND, THAT THE THIRD PARTY, THE REFORM PARTY, IS GOING TO PLAY A ROLE IN THIS CAMPAIGN?

Bush: MICHAEL, IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL. YOU'RE ASKING A GUY TO PROJECT ABOUT WHAT LIFE'S GOING TO BE LIKE NEXT AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, AND OCTOBER. WHEN I'M OUT EARNING THE VOTE HERE IN IOWA -- AND I'VE JUST COME FROM A BIG FARM BUREAU CONVENTION WHERE I SHOOK A LOT OF HANDS -- AND I’M FOCUSED ON YOUR CAUCUSES -- THERE WILL BE AMPLE TIME FOR US TO SIT AROUND AND SPECULATE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT DONALD TRUMP OR PATRICK J. BUCHANAN OR WHOEVER, ROSS PEROT, IS GOING TO INFLUENCE THE GENERAL ELECTION. I THINK IT'S WAY TOO EARLY TO TELL.

Yepsen: HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO A RUNNING MATE?

Bush: NO, SIR, I HAVEN'T. I GET THOUGHTS WHEN I GET ASKED, OF COURSE, BUT I REALLY HAVEN'T SERIOUSLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS PRESUMPTIVE FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS YET TO EARN MY PARTY'S NOMINATION TO BE SPECULATING OR THINKING ABOUT A VICE PRESIDENT. NOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK WHAT ARE THE QUALITIES, QUALIFICATIONS?

Yepsen: THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.

Bush: WELL, FIRST, STEP ONE IS COULD THE PERSON BE THE PRESIDENT? SECONDLY, I SAY THIS SOMEWHAT IN JEST, BUT THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO IT: DOES THE PERSON LIKE ME AND HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH MY PHILOSOPHY? AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I'VE LEARNED AND I WATCHED CLOSE HAND TWO REALLY GOOD VICE PRESIDENTS, GEORGE H.W. BUSH AND DAN QUAYLE, WHO WERE VERY LOYAL TO THE PRESIDENT WITH WHOM THEY WORKED. AND THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE LOYALTY AS A CRITERION. THIRDLY, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT GENDER AND GEOGRAPHY, BUT I REALLY HAVEN'T STARTED ANY LISTS.

Glover: YOU'VE HAD SOME THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THIS REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED CONGRESS. YOU'VE BEEN GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF A LOT THAT THEY'VE DONE, BUT YOU'VE HAD SOME CRITICISM OF THEM. GIVE THIS CONGRESS A GRADE. HOW IS THIS REPUBLICAN CONGRESS DOING? AND IS THAT A DETRIMENT TO REPUBLICANS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL?

Bush: WELL, LET ME START WITH THE LAST: NO, IT'S NOT A DETRIMENT. AND I INTEND TO MAKE THE CASE THAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO SEE SOCIAL SECURITY REFORMED, TO MAKE SURE THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM IS STRONGER AND SAFER, OR IF PEOPLE WANT THE MILITARY TO BE BUILT UP, OR IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN TAX CUTS TO KEEP THE ECONOMY GROWING, LET ME BE THE PRESIDENT AND WORK WITH THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS. JUST GIVE US A CHANCE IS WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY. SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A DETRIMENT. I HAVE BEEN CRITICAL ONLY ON A LIMITED BASIS WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY TALKED ABOUT USING THE EARNED-INCOME TAX CREDIT TO BRING THE FISCAL HOUSE IN ORDER. I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS FAIR, AND I SPOKE OUT LOUD AND CLEAR. WHAT WAS THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION?

Glover: GIVE THEM A GRADE.

Bush: WELL, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE'S A PRESIDENT WHO'S TRYING TO INCREASE SPENDING BY IMMEASURABLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF HOLDING THE FISCAL LINE AND PROTECTING SOCIAL SECURITY FROM A RAID.

Borg: A, B, C, OR D?

Bush: A.

Borg: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR GUEST TODAY, GOVERNOR BUSH.

Bush: THANKS, DEAN.

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