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Iowa Press #2811 - Reporters Roundtable
Nov. 12, 2000

Dean Borg: THE GENERAL ELECTION OF 2000 CREATED FAR MORE SUSPENSE AND INTRIGUE THAN ANYONE COULD HAVE IMAGINED. OUR TEAM OF IOWA PRESS REPORTERS REVIEWS THE RESULTS AND THE IMPLICATIONS ON THIS EDITION OF IOWA PRESS.

Narrator: FUNDING FOR IOWA PRESS HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY FRIENDS OF IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION; BY THE IOWA BANKERS ASSOCIATION... FOR PERSONAL, BUSINESS, AND COMMERCIAL NEEDS, IOWA BANKS HELP IOWANS REACH THEIR FINANCIAL GOALS; AND BY THE ASSOCIATION OF BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY, THE VOICE OF IOWA BUSINESS, REPRESENTING THE INTERESTS OF OVER 1,500 IOWA BUSINESSES EMPLOYING 300,000 IOWANS. THIS IS THE SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 12 EDITION OF IOWA PRESS. HERE IS DEAN BORG.

Borg: AS OF TUESDAY OF THIS PAST WEEK, THE GENERAL ELECTION OF 2000 MARKED THE SPOT ON THE CALENDAR, CLOSING ONE CHAPTER OF AMERICAN HISTORY AND OPENING ANOTHER. TWO CERTAINTIES EMERGED: FIRST, POST-ELECTION ANALYSIS CONTINUES AND WILL FOR SOME TIME TO COME; AND SECOND, THERE'S RECOGNITION THAT DESPITE SOPHISTICATED POLLING AND FOCUS-GROUP RESEARCH, THE ELECTION STILL PRODUCED SURPRISES AND STILL WILL. WE GATHER AT THE IOWA PRESS TABLE TODAY TO FOCUS ON THE KNOWNS AND THE UNKNOWNS OF THE ELECTION. JOINING US: DAVID YEPSEN OF THE DES MOINES REGISTER, KAY HENDERSON OF RADIO IOWA, JENEANE BECK OF KUNI PUBLIC RADIO, AND KATHIE OBRADOVICH OF THE LEE NEWSPAPERS. YOU'VE ALL HAD SOME REST AND HAD SOME CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS. [ LAUGHTER ] KATHIE, THERE'S ALWAYS AMBIGUITY OR SUSPENSE, UNPREDICTABILITY, I GUESS, IN POLITICS, AND THERE ALWAYS WILL BE. BUT A LOT IS KNOWN AS WE TAPE THIS PROGRAM. WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR IMPRESSIONS OF THE ELECTION?

Obradovich: WELL, TO START WITH, DEAN, I THINK THAT ANYBODY WHO STILL THINKS THAT ONE VOTE CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS COMPLETELY HOPELESS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS ELECTION SHOWED THAT A CLOSE RACE CAN GENERATE BIG TURNOUT. WE SAW THAT AROUND THE COUNTRY AND IN IOWA. AND SECOND OF ALL, THAT REALLY, BECAUSE OF JUST THE CLOSENESS OF IT, EVERY VOTE DID COUNT. TO START WITH, THAT'S A GOOD BASIS. I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD PEOPLE IN THE COFFEE SHOP SAY THAT IT GENERATED MORE INTEREST IN POLITICS. SO THAT'S A NICE BENEFIT TOO.

Henderson: A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS ON MY PART. I WATCHED WEST WING EARLY IN THE SEASON. THAT'S THAT TV SHOW WITH MARTIN SHEEN AS THE PRESIDENT. THEY HAD A CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION AND AFTER ALL THE MONEY WAS SPENT AND EVERYTHING HAPPENED, THEY HAD THE SAME MAKEUP OF CONGRESS. THAT'S WHAT KIND OF HAPPENED HERE IN IOWA. WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE MACHINATIONS AND WE END UP WITH ABOUT THE SAME MAJORITY CONTROL IN THE IOWA HOUSE AND THE IOWA SENATE. SECONDLY, IT'S A REAL KIND OF A PERSONAL VALIDATION FOR ME. THIS IS WHY I DO IT. THIS IS EXCITING. THIS IS FUN. I CAN'T TELL YOU -- IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO GET DOWN FROM THIS AND ACTUALLY GET SOME SLEEP BECAUSE I WAS WATCHING THE TV COVERAGE, LISTENING TO THE RADIO. THIS IS WHAT WE LIVE FOR, AND HOPEFULLY THIS SHOWS OTHER PEOPLE WHY WE FIND POLITICS EXCITING.

Borg: YOU AND A LOT OF OTHER AMERICANS, I THINK, ACROSS THE -- IN FACT, AMERICANS LIVING OVERSEAS. I'VE HEARD FROM THEM. THEY WERE UP WATCHING CNN INTERNATIONALLY. JENEANE?

Beck: I THINK THAT I WAS STRUCK BY THE UNDECIDEDS. BECAUSE I'VE COVERED THIS SINCE BEFORE THE CAUCUSES AND I'VE SEEN THESE CANDIDATES OVER AND OVER AND OVER, I WAS STRUCK, WELL, HOW CAN YOU BE UNDECIDED. THEY'VE BEEN IN IOWA SO MUCH MORE THAN USUAL. THERE ARE CAMPAIGN ADS, IT'S IN THE PAPER EVERY DAY, ON THE RADIO. SO I WAS THINKING THOSE UNDECIDEDS MUST BE THE STRANGE FEW THAT I DON'T KNOW. AND THEN I SPOKE TO MY FATHER A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION, AND HE WAS UNDECIDED. AND SUDDENLY IT HIT HOME. OKAY, THESE ARE NORMAL PEOPLE WHO ARE COLLEGE EDUCATED THAT STILL JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO VOTE FOR, AND I WAS STRUCK BY THAT.

Yepsen: I THINK IT WAS A VICTORY FOR CENTRIST POLITICS. WE ALWAYS SAY ELECTIONS ARE WON IN THE MIDDLE, AND BOTH AL GORE AND GEORGE W. BUSH FOUGHT IT OUT THERE. THEY BOTH DID WELL AND I THINK BOTH PARTIES LEARNED A LESSON. AS YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE HOTHEADS AND EXTREMISTS IN POLITICS, ELECTIONS ARE WON IN THE MIDDLE.

Borg: WELL, WAS THERE, IN IOWA NOW, A NADER/BUCHANAN EFFECT HERE? WHAT DO YOU THINK, KATHIE?

Obradovich: WELL, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE CLOSENESS OF THE RACE, EVERY VOTE THAT YOU TAKE AWAY FROM ONE OF THE MAJOR CANDIDATES MADE A DIFFERENCE, BUT I WOULDN'T CALL NADER A SPOILER. HE WAS OUT THERE PUSHING ON HIS OWN ISSUES. I THINK HE HAD AN EFFECT, BUT THE OUTCOME HAD A LOT MORE TO DO I THINK WITH THE CANDIDATES' OWN STRATEGIES. GORE CEDED THE SOUTH TO BUSH. HE TOOK HIS HOME STATE AND THE PRESIDENT'S HOME STATE FOR GRANTED. I THINK THAT HAD AN EFFECT AS WELL.

Beck: I DON'T KNOW -- WHEN YOU SAY HE ISN'T A SPOILER AND HE TALKED ABOUT HIS OWN ISSUES, ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME WHEN I COVERED NADER WAS HOW HE DID TALK ABOUT HIS ISSUES BUT AFTER SPENDING AT LEAST FIVE MINUTES SLAMMING GORE AND BUSH. HE SPENT MORE TIME THAN THEY DID PUTTING EACH OTHER DOWN. HE WOULD CALL THEM TWEEDLEDEE AND TWEEDLEDUM AND USE ALL SORTS OF NAMES -- NAME CALLING. AND I THINK THAT IN TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO DO CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM THAT MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HIS OWN CANDIDACY A LITTLE MORE ON THE POSITIVE SIDE.

Henderson: WELL, YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME ABOUT RALPH NADER; HE WAS A PRETTY GRUMPY CANDIDATE. THE OTHER THING THAT STRIKES ME IS THAT SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PEROT FACTOR, THOSE 19 PERCENT OF PEOPLE THAT TURNED OUT IN '92 AND VOTED PEROT, IT SHOWS THAT THEY REALLY DIDN'T DIG INTO THE REPUBLICAN BASE LIKE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS THOUGHT THAT BILL CLINTON HAD BEEN THE BENEFICIARY THAT STOLE VOTES FROM THEM. A LOT OF THEM WERE JUST DISAFFECTED PEOPLE, HAD NEVER VOTED BEFORE, AND THEY SEE THIS CHARISMATIC FIGURE WHO'S TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT REALLY MOTIVATE THEM, SO THEY GO TO THE POLLS. SO A LOT OF THE RESEARCH AFTER THAT SHOWS THAT A BLOCK OF THOSE PEROT VOTERS WERE NOT NECESSARILY STOLEN FROM SOMEONE ELSE.

Yepsen: I THINK WE'VE GOT TWO MAJOR PARTIES IN THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE IN THE MIDDLE. AND I THINK -- THANK GOD FOR INDEPENDENT AND THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATES. PAT BUCHANAN AND RALPH NADER CONTRIBUTED SOMETHING TO THE DIALOGUE, JUST AS ROSS PEROT DID. THAT'S THE HISTORY OF THIRD PARTIES. THEY GENERATE IDEAS THAT ONE OF THE TWO MAJOR PARTY STEALS. I THINK THE QUESTION AFTER TODAY AFTER THE SMOKE CLEARS FROM THIS ELECTION IS WHAT DO PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS DO ABOUT THE ISSUES RALPH NADER RAISES? I DO THINK RALPH NADER TOOK VOTES AWAY FROM AL GORE. THE POLLING WOULD INDICATE THAT. HE ALSO BROUGHT NEW PEOPLE INTO THE ELECTORATE. THE POLLING INDICATES THAT. SO THE QUESTION FOR DEMOCRATS IS HOW DO WE ATTRACT THE VOTES OF NADER SUPPORTERS WITHOUT LOSING THE CENTER, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR DEMOCRATS.

Borg: NOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE CENTER. AS I LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF THE FEDERAL ELECTION, SPLIT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THIS NATION, IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THERE IS MUCH OF A MANDATE FOR EITHER PARTY IN CONTROL. DOES THAT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO GOVERN, NUMBER ONE? AND APPLY THAT ALSO TO IOWA. WAS THERE A MANDATE CONVERSELY GIVEN BY THE IOWA ELECTORATE FOR GOVERNING IN IOWA? WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Yepsen: NO MANDATES ANYWHERE. THIS WAS A STATUS QUO ELECTION. THE STATUS QUO PREVAILED. THERE WAS LITERALLY NO CHANGE IN THE IOWA LEGISLATURE. IT WAS 30/20 IN THE SENATE AND 56/44 IN THE HOUSE. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS TODAY. YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT MORE OF A STATUS QUO ELECTION THAN THAT. I THINK AMERICANS, THE RIGHT-TRACK WRONG-TRACK NUMBERS, ALL SAY PEOPLE ARE HAPPY. AND DESPITE THE DRAMA AND ALL THE MONEY THAT'S SPENT, WE WIND UP BASICALLY ABOUT WHERE WE WERE BEFORE.

Obradovich: YOU MENTIONED RUNNING IN THE MIDDLE AND ELECTIONS BEING WON IN THE MIDDLE. NOW, BOTH NATIONALLY AND IN IOWA, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GOVERN IN THE MIDDLE. WE'VE GOT SPLIT CONTROL AGAIN WITH THE GOVERNORSHIP AND THE LEGISLATURE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO WORK TOGETHER. THE SAME IS GOING TO BE TRUE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY MAJORITY PARTY THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO FORCE ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING. IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SMALL BIPARTISAN THINGS.

Henderson: THE OTHER THING I LOOK AT, DEAN, THERE ARE MORE INDEPENDENT REGISTERED VOTERS IN IOWA, NO-PARTY VOTERS, THAN THERE ARE REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS. IN FACT, THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE THIRD PARTY IN IOWA IF YOU MAKE THOSE NO-PARTY VOTERS INDEPENDENT. AND SO REALLY IOWANS ARE NOT ALIGNED WITH THE TWO MAJOR PARTIES. MORE AND MORE IOWANS ARE FINDING THEMSELVES NO-PARTY VOTERS. VERY FEW VOTERS ARE GOING IN AND CASTING A SINGLE BALLOT ALL DEMOCRAT OR ALL REPUBLICAN. PEOPLE ARE JUST ALL OVER THE MAP. THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PARTY ALLEGIANCE ANYMORE.

Borg: COMING INTO THIS ELECTION, DEMOCRATS IN IOWA WERE HEARTENED BY THE FACT THAT THEY CONTROLLED TERRACE HILL, THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION, THIS TIME. BUT WAS THERE A VILSACK EFFECT? THERE WAS UP FRONT. YOU'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT A WEEK AGO WHEN WE SAID, YES, HE HELPED A LOT WITH FUND-RAISING. BUT DID THE ELECTORATE CARRY THAT THROUGH? JENEANE?

Beck: OBVIOUSLY NOT. REPUBLICANS MAINTAIN CONTROL OF BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE IN IOWA. AND I THINK THAT WHAT THAT MEANS IS, ON THE ISSUE OF TEACHER PAY ESPECIALLY, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I SAW VILSACK OUT ON THE STUMP WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, "YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME A DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATURE SO THAT WE CAN PUSH THIS ISSUE THROUGH," IS THAT IOWANS MIGHT WANT TO BOOST TEACHER PAY BUT THEY WANT IT IN SMALL INCREMENTS AND THEY WANT REPUBLICANS TO HELP WITH THAT SO THAT IT'S BIPARTISAN. SO I'M NOT SURE THERE WAS A MANDATE AT ALL THERE.

Yepsen: I THINK GOVERNOR VILSACK WAS ARGUABLY ONE OF THE BIG LOSERS ON TUESDAY. HE PUT IT ON THE LINE. HE WAS A GOOD PARTISAN DEMOCRAT. HE WORKED HARD FOR HIS CANDIDATES, AS WE TALKED ABOUT. AND IN THE END, THE IOWA ELECTORATE SAID, "NO, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE A DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATURE." WHAT THAT HAS DONE WITH REPUBLICANS -- THAT HAS ANGERED REPUBLICANS AT THE STATEHOUSE. HE CAME AFTER MONEY, TIME, CUTTING ADS FOR OPPONENTS AND ACCUSING SOME OF THEM OF WANTING TO VIOLATE PRIVACY. THEY'RE NOT JUST MAD, THEY'RE ANGRY, DEAN. SO THERE WILL BE A PAY-BACK TIME. SECONDLY, REPUBLICANS LEARNED, HEY, THEY CAN BEAT TOM VILSACK. HE SORT OF WALKED ON WATER HERE THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IN IOWA POLITICS. AND REPUBLICANS WERE LIKE, "HOW DO WE BEAT THIS GUY?" NOW THEY CAN SAY, "YEAH, WE CAN TAKE HIM." SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THIS NEXT SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE THE REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE SENDING HIM BILLS THAT HE DOESN'T WANT: TAX CUTS, ENGLISH ONLY, ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HE DOESN'T WANT AND HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO VETO. THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY UNPOPULAR. AND I THINK REPUBLICANS WILL HAVE SOME LUCK MAYBE IN RECRUITING A BETTER CANDIDATE TO RUN AGAINST HIM.

Borg: I WANT TO GET TO SOME OF THOSE ISSUES IN OUR LATER DISCUSSION, BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT THE IOWA LEGISLATURE, KATHIE, THERE WERE SOME INTERESTING RACES. WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THERE WAS NO CHANGE IN THE COMPOSITION, BUT SOME CAME AND SOME WENT.

Obradovich: RIGHT. THERE WERE, I BELIEVE, FIVE INCUMBENTS IN THE HOUSE WHO LOST: TWO DEMOCRATS, THREE REPUBLICANS. MOST OF THOSE WERE IN FAIRLY DICEY DISTRICTS WHERE IT WAS REAL CLOSE REGISTRATION-WISE. LIKE IN OTTUMWA, GAYLON DAVIS, HE WAS A REPUBLICAN IN BASICALLY A DEMOCRAT SEAT. THERE WAS MIKE JAGER IN THE WATERLOO AREA, AND THAT WAS BASICALLY A PERSONALITY ISSUE, I THINK, WITH VOTERS. A COUPLE OF SEATS... THE WES WHITTED SEAT IN SIOUX CITY AND DENNIS PARMENTER. THESE GUYS HADN'T BEEN THERE VERY LONG AND WERE VULNERABLE. AND JOHN SUNDERBROOK IN DAVENPORT... DAVENPORT WAS REAL INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE WERE THREE SEATS THAT WENT -- THAT CHANGED HANDS FROM REPUBLICANS TO DEMOCRATS THERE. I THINK THAT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH AL GORE. HE WAS THERE A LOT. THERE WAS A LOT OF UNION ACTIVITY TRYING TO GET OUT VOTES FOR AL GORE, AND I THINK THAT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME RESIDUAL EFFECT THERE IN THE QUAD CITY RACES.

Yepsen: AND JACK RIFE.

Obradovich: AND JACK RIFE WHO IS A LITTLE OUTSIDE THE QUAD CITIES, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I THINK SOME PEOPLE SAW COMING. HE HAD A REALLY AGGRESSIVE CHALLENGER AND MAYBE WASN'T AS HUNGRY.

Yepsen: WELL, I THINK IN THAT SENSE, ALL OF US WHO COVER STATEHOUSE POLITICS MAY BE THE LOSERS BECAUSE JACK RIFE AND MIKE JAGER CAN ALWAYS BE COUNTED ON TO SAY SOMETHING SILLY OR OUTRAGEOUS AND MAKE A STORY ON A SLOW NEWS DAY. WE'LL MISS THEM.

Borg: BUT GET BACK TO THE COMINGS AND GOINGS. CAN YOU SEE ANYTHING THERE IN WHO CAME IN, OR WERE THESE PERSONALITY ELECTIONS, OR WERE THERE ISSUES THAT WERE DECIDED IN SOME OF THOSE, JENEANE?

Beck: WELL, THE ONE THAT I FOUND MOST INTERESTING WAS THE DENNIS PARMENTER RACE IN THE STORY COUNTY AREA, BECAUSE AT THE LAST MINUTE HIS CHALLENGER, BARBARA FINCH, RAN AN AD SAYING THAT HE DID NOT DO ENOUGH WHEN THE ISSUE OF A BEEF PROCESSING PLANT CAME UP TO PLACE IT IN CAMBRIDGE. SO SHE HIT HIM ON THAT ISSUE AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE HARD, AND THAT STILL RESONATED THERE. PEOPLE WERE SO ANGRY ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A BEEF PLANT IN CAMBRIDGE THAT HE WAS OUT ON HIS TAIL. SO I THINK THAT BEEF PLANT STILL CAN CAST VOTES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

Borg: YOU KNOW, THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION, TOM VILSACK, I BELIEVE HE WAS SPEAKING TO TEACHERS -- MAYBE THE ISEA TEACHERS UNION. BUT MADE A STATEMENT, "YOU'VE GOT TO HELP ME. I'VE GOT AN UPHILL FIGHT NOW IN THE LEGISLATURE TO INCREASE TEACHER PAY." I WAS A BIT SURPRISED THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION OF THAT HARD-NOSED APPROACH.

Yepsen: ANOTHER BIG LOSER IN THE ELECTION WAS THE ISEA. THEY ENDORSED 88 CANDIDATES IN THIS ELECTION -- 80 OF THEM WERE DEMOCRATS AND 8 WERE REPUBLICANS. NOW REPUBLICANS ARE CONTROLLING THE LEGISLATURE. WELL, REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE, THEY WANT TO GIVE TEACHERS A PAY RAISE, BUT THAT BILL IS NOT GOING TO BE WRITTEN BY THE ISEA. IT'S GOING TO BE WRITTEN BY REPUBLICANS. AND I IMAGINE THAT RAISE NOW IS NOT GOING TO BE QUITE AS BIG AS IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN HAD THE ISEA ENDORSED A FEW REPUBLICANS AND HAD THE GOVERNOR BEEN A LITTLE LESS PARTISAN. NOBODY WANTS TO BE AGAINST TEACHER PAY, DEAN, BUT THAT RAISE MAY BE PRETTY SMALL.

Obradovich: RIGHT. I MEAN, THE GOVERNOR IS MISLEADING PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT IF THEY -- IF HE SAYS THAT REPUBLICANS AREN'T INTERESTED IN RAISING TEACHER PAY. BOTH SIDES CAMPAIGNED ON THAT. THE DIFFERENCE COMES IN -- I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO WANT TO IMPOSE A LOT MORE RULES AND A LOT MORE REQUIREMENTS ON TEACHERS. HE'S GOING TO MAKE THEM JUMP THROUGH -- THEY WANT TO MAKE TEACHERS JUMP THROUGH A LOT MORE HOOPS IN ORDER TO GET THEIR MONEY. THEY THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE OF IOWA WANT. THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM JUST MORE MONEY FOR NOTHING. AND VILSACK I THINK WANTS TO PUT A LOT MORE MONEY IN UPFRONT. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME NEW RULES ON HIS SIDE AS WELL. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLASH OVER THE DETAILS.

Borg: GIVEN THE CONTROVERSY UP IN MARSHALL COUNTY OVER THE ENGLISH-ONLY RESOLUTION THERE I'M A BIT SURPRISED THAT ENGLISH ONLY SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE COMING UP IN THE IOWA LEGISLATURE, KAY.

Henderson: I'M NOT SURPRISED BECAUSE THE POLLING SHOWS REPUBLICANS THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT THEY CAN WIN ON. THEY'RE GOING TO PASS IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE AND SEND IT DOWN TO TOM VILSACK AND MAKE HIM EXPLAIN WHY HE'S NOT GOING TO SIGN IT. IT WILL BE INCREDIBLY UNPOPULAR WITH IOWANS FOR HIM TO VETO THAT BILL, WHICH HE WILL DO. IF HE CAN COME UP WITH AN EXPLANATION THAT GETS HIM OFF THE HOOK ON THAT, THAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE.

Yepsen: IT MAY BE BAD PUBLIC POLICY TOO, DEAN. IF IT DISCOURAGES IOWA'S EFFORT TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE TO COME TO OUR STATE, IT COULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO THE NEED TO HAVE MORE IMMIGRANTS IN IOWA. AND REPUBLICANS MAY BE VERY POLITICALLY SHORT-SIGHTED. PETE WILSON DID THIS KIND OF DEMAGOGIC POLITICS OUT IN CALIFORNIA, AND ALL BUT MADE CERTAIN THAT'S NOW A DEMOCRATIC STATE FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER GENERATION. AND SO REPUBLICANS -- A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, DEAN, REPUBLICANS TRASHED THE IRISH AND MADE SURE THEY WERE DEMOCRATS FOR A HUNDRED YEARS. AND THEY MAY BE DOING THE SAME THING WITH HISPANICS NOW, DRIVING THEM OUT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY INTO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND FOR THE NEXT TWO GENERATIONS IN AMERICA, HISPANIC VOTERS WILL BE LARGELY DEMOCRATIC. THAT'S REAL STUPID ON THE PART OF REPUBLICANS.

Obradovich: REPUBLICANS HAVEN'T -- THEY HAVEN'T COME UP WITH ANOTHER WAY TO SELL THIS EITHER. THEY ARE GOING TO JUST TRY AND FORCE THE SAME ARGUMENTS THEY'VE BEEN MAKING FOR YEARS. AND BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE MAJORITY AND THEY THINK THE VOTERS ARE BEHIND THEM, THEY THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH. BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A FAIRLY DECENT SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION THAT WILL NEVER ACCEPT THIS THE WAY IT'S BEING PRESENTED. AND THEY'D PROBABLY BE BETTER OFF IF THEY TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOME OTHER WAY TO CAST THIS TO GET THE SAME THING DONE BUT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE EASY FOR FOLKS TO SWALLOW.

Borg: JENEANE, WILL THE COMPOSITION OF THE LEGISLATURE STAYING THE SAME -- WE'LL TALK ABOUT TAX CHANGES HERE -- AND GIVEN THE DEMOCRAT IN THE GOVERNOR'S CHAIR, THE LEGISLATURE STILL CONTROLLED BY REPUBLICANS, CAN WE EXPECT TAX CHANGES?

Beck: I THINK THAT THE REPUBLICANS WILL PASS SOME TARGETED TAX CUTS. I DON'T KNOW YET WHETHER GOVERNOR VILSACK WILL SIGN THEM. THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE: REDUCING THE TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS; ALSO THEY WANTED TO ELIMINATE THE TAX ON UTILITY -- UTILITY COSTS, YOUR HOME HEATING BILLS, THE STATE TAX ON THAT. BUT NOW THEY'RE ADMITTING THAT THAT'S SO EXPENSIVE THAT MAYBE IF THEY JUST SAY THEY REDUCE IT SO THAT THE STATE DOESN'T COLLECT MORE IN TAXES THIS YEAR AS WE PAY MORE ON OUR HOME HEATING COSTS. AND THEY ALSO TO WANT FREEZE THE PROPERTY TAX IN COUNTY GOVERNMENTS, WHICH IS NEVER VERY POPULAR WITH COUNTY BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS WHO ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR LIBRARIES AND COUNTY ROADS. SO I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME TAX POLICY COMING OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE. I'M NOT SURE YET WHAT THE GOVERNOR WILL SIGN.

Henderson: LOOK FOR THAT PROPERTY TAX FREEZE TO PASS, LOOK FOR THE FARM BUREAU TO GET BEHIND IT, AND LOOK FOR TOM VILSACK TO SIGN IT. HE PLAYED SOME ROLE IN THE TAX POLICY WHEN HE WAS A STATE SENATOR, KIND OF ALIGNED HIMSELF WITH THE FARM BUREAU. FARM BUREAU RAN SOME RADIO SPOTS ON THIS VERY ISSUE ATTACKING COUNTY SPENDING ACROSS THE BOARD IN IOWA AND ITS EXPONENTIAL INCREASES IN SOME COUNTY BUDGETS.

Yepsen: THIS MAY BE ONE, DEAN, WHERE IF THEY CAN FIND A COMPROMISE WITH GOVERNOR VILSACK, HE COULD SIGN IT. LET'S NOT FORGET TOM VILSACK STARTED IN POLITICS AS A SMALL-TOWN MAYOR IN MOUNT PLEASANT. AND SO HE HAS SOME SYMPATHY FOR THE PLIGHT OF LOCAL OFFICIALS. BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, DEAN -- OR ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF REPUBLICANS SAYING, "FINE, GOVERNOR, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEND THIS DOWN TO YOU. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU GO AHEAD AND VETO IT, GOVERNOR; MAKE OUR DAY. MAKE US VERY POPULAR WITH FARMERS AND PEOPLE OUT THERE TIRED OF PAYING HIGH PROPERTY TAXES."

Obradovich: THE BOTTOM LINE, TOO, IS THAT THAT'S ONE TAX CUT -- THE PROPERTY TAXES IS ONE TAX THEY CAN CUT OR CONTROL WITHOUT AFFECTING THEIR OWN SPENDING APPETITE. THEY'RE PUTTING IT DOWN TO THE LOCALS TO DEAL WITH.

Borg: KAY, WILL THE RESIDUAL EFFECT OF THIS ELECTION -- AND I'M THINKING HERE -- PLAY OUT FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL IN CONTROL BECAUSE THIS IS THE LEGISLATURE, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT WOULD DETERMINE REAPPORTIONMENT?

Henderson: YOU BET. IF I'M A REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN WHO WANTS TO REMAIN A REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN IN IOWA, I'M KIND OF HAPPY. IF I'M LEONARD BOSWELL, THE ONLY DEMOCRAT IN THE DELEGATION, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RUN AGAINST A REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT THE NEXT TIME AROUND. THEY WILL REDRAW THOSE LINES. THEY WILL BE WITH A REPUBLICAN IN MIND FOR WINNING ALL THOSE SEATS. IF I'M MIKE HUSTON, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED THAT I'M GOING TO BE REDRAWING THE LINE -- OF COURSE, MIKE HUSTON IS THE DEMOCRAT FROM DES MOINES WHO RAN AGAINST CONGRESSMAN GREG GANSKE IN TUESDAY'S ELECTION. HE LOST BUT ON ELECTION NIGHT HE EVEN ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING AGAIN. SO THEY'LL REDRAW THE LINES AND THERE WILL BE SOME DEFINITE CHANGES.

Yepsen: I'M A GREAT FAN, DEAN, OF DIVIDED GOVERNMENT. IT'S HELPING US PAY DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT. IT KEEPS KOOKIE THINGS FROM EITHER PARTY FROM BECOMING LAW. AND IN THIS CASE DIVIDED GOVERNMENT IN IOWA MEANS NEITHER PARTY IS GOING TO GERRYMANDER THIS STATE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYBODY TINKERING WITH THE REAPPORTIONMENT LAW. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE PIECES OF LEGISLATION ON IOWA'S BOOKS. IT'S A MODEL FOR OTHER STATES. TEN YEARS AGO, WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST STATES IN THE COUNTRY TO COMPLETE OUR REAPPORTIONMENT IN IOWA. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN HONEST REAPPORTIONMENT NOW.

Borg: SO JUST LIKE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE PRESIDENCY, AND THE RESIDUAL EFFECT WILL BE IN SUPREME COURT, THERE IS A RESIDUAL EFFECT FOR SOME YEARS TO COME HERE IN IOWA BECAUSE OF DIVIDED GOVERNMENT YOU SAY IS GOOD FOR IOWA IN THIS. ALSO, THE EFFECTS OF THIS ELECTION, I'D LIKE TO HAVE YOUR IDEAS ON SETING UP THE NEXT ONE. WE'VE JUST FINISHED AND PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF ELECTION COMMERCIALS AND SO ON. BUT REALLY, THERE WERE SOME CHECKERS THAT WERE MOVED INTO PLACE FOR THE NEXT MOVE. WHAT WERE SOME OF THOSE?

Beck: WELL, SHE MENTIONED THAT MIKE HUSTON ALREADY WANTS TO RUN AGAIN FOR CONGRESS IN TWO YEARS. GREG GANSKE DID NOT SAY THAT HE'S GOING TO RUN FOR THE SENATE IN TWO YEARS, BUT THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT A LOT. HE DID RUN ADS AGAINST HARKIN ALREADY THIS YEAR, SO HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO RUN AGAINST TOM HARKIN FOR THE SENATE. WITH LEONARD BOSWELL, THERE HAS BEEN RUMORS THAT MAYBE HE'LL WANT TO RETIRE IN TWO YEARS IF THE REAPPORTIONMENT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO WIN REELECTION. THERE ARE ALSO OTHER ONES. TOM LATHAM MAYBE WANTS TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR, AND THERE ARE OTHER CANDIDATES THAT MIGHT WANT TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR OR FOR THE SENATE.

Yepsen: SO YOU HAD KIND OF A BORING LOCAL ELECTION IN IOWA THIS TIME, BUT WE COULD HAVE A REAL SUPER BOWL NEXT TIME. YOU'VE GOT TOM HARKIN'S SENATE SEAT. YOU'VE GOT TOM VILSACK'S GOVERNORSHIP. YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE OPEN CONGRESSIONAL SEATS IN NEWLY APPORTIONED DISTRICTS. AND WE'LL HAVE THESE LEGISLATIVE RACES, AND THEY'LL ALSO BE IN ALL NEWLY APPORTIONED DISTRICTS. AND, DEAN, IN 1992 AND IN 1982, YOU HAD UPWARDS OF A 30-PERCENT CHANGE IN THE FACES IN THE LEGISLATURE: INCUMBENTS WHO GOT BEAT, INCUMBENTS WHO DIDN'T SEEK REELECTION. SO WE'RE IN A PERIOD NOW OF GREAT CHANGE IN IOWA POLITICS.

Borg: ALSO, WITH THE CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS -- YOU MENTIONED SOME CONGRESSMEN HERE BEING SET UP FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS -- BUT ALSO, THIS SET THEM UP, DID IT NOT, BECAUSE IOWA FOR GREATER THINGS THAN WHERE THEY'RE SERVING RIGHT NOW IN CONGRESS THAT IS BECAUSE OF SENIORITY. KAY?

Henderson: RIGHT. DEPENDING ON HOW THE CHIPS FALL IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE, CHUCK GRASSLEY COULD BE THE NEXT CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. THAT MAY SOUND LIKE PRETTY BORING STUFF, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MAN WHO MAKES DECISIONS ABOUT HOW OUR NATION'S TAX LAWS ARE WRITTEN. ON THE HOUSE SIDE, JIM NUSSLE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, AND HE IS IN A POSITION TO BE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE BUDGET COMMITTEE. SO THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY POWERFUL POSITION. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE DECISIONS ABOUT FEDERAL SPENDING. SO TO HAVE IOWANS IN THOSE TWO PLACES IS JUST UNIMAGINABLE.

Yepsen: WE MAY HAVE BURIED THE LEAD HERE ON OUR SHOW WITH THIS, BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE SINGLE, MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WILL COME OUT OF THIS ELECTION WILL BE GRASSLEY'S CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. THAT'S JUST HUGE AND WILL HAVE ALL KINDS OF RAMIFICATIONS FOR IOWA.

Obradovich: JIM LEACH ALSO WAS HOPING TO SHIFT OVER FROM THE CHAIR OF THE BANKING COMMITTEE TO INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS. AGAIN, THAT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT THING AS WELL. IOWA IS VERY INTERESTED IN TRADE BECAUSE OF THE FARMING ECONOMY, AND SO THAT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT THING AS WELL.

Borg: WERE THERE SOME LOSERS IN THIS PAST ELECTION THAT WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED YET THAT, BECAUSE OF NAME RECOGNITION IN RUNNING THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO SEE AGAIN?

Yepsen: OH, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK SOME OF THE LEADERS OF THE HOUSE -- THE LEADERS OF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS AND LEGISLATIVE DEMOCRATS AT THE STATEHOUSE HAVE GOT TO BE SITTING THERE TODAY THINKING MAYBE WE NEED SOME FRESH FACES RUNNING THINGS.

Borg: WELL, IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, THERE WERE -- THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE DISCUSSION ON THE EFFECTS OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, THE PLURALITY OF THE VOTE, AND THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN THERE? IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE THAT CATCHES OUR FANCY RIGHT NOW OR, KATHIE, IS IT GOING TO BE A LASTING ISSUE AND THERE'S LIKELY TO BE SOME CHANGES? WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Obradovich: THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK EVEN BEFORE THE ELECTION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT ONE CANDIDATE WOULD WIN THE POPULAR VOTE, THE OTHER WOULD WIN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. AS WE SIT TODAY, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT VERY WELL MAY BE THE CASE. THAT HAS LED TO SOME CALLS FOR ELIMINATING THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE ALTOGETHER. I MEAN, IT'S BASICALLY AN ANTIQUATED SYSTEM THAT WAS SET UP BY THE FOUNDING FATHERS. IT'S DIFFICULT FOR AMERICAN VOTERS AND INTERNATIONAL VOTERS TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS HAPPENING. BUT THE BENEFIT FOR IOWA HAS BEEN THAT PEOPLE REALLY NEEDED TO COME HERE AND SEEK THOSE SEVEN ELECTORAL VOTES. WE WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN THE CANDIDATES OTHERWISE. SO IF THEY DO ELIMINATE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING TO KEEP THE CANDIDATES FROM ONLY CAMPAIGNING ON THE COAST.

Henderson: IF THERE'S NO ELECTORAL COLLEGE, THE CANDIDATES WILL GO TARMAC TO TARMAC, URBAN AREA TO URBAN AREA. THEY'LL NEVER CAMPAIGN IN A RURAL SETTING UNLESS THEY'RE FILMING A COMMERCIAL AND WANT TO KISS A COW OR MILK A COW OR SOMETHING. IF YOU'RE AN IOWAN, YOU SHOULD WANT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE TO REMAIN INTACT BECAUSE THAT IS WHY WE SAW ALL THAT ATTENTION IN THE CLOSING DAYS. WE REALLY HAD A NATIONAL ELECTION. THESE CANDIDATES WERE FANNING OUT ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THE CLOSING WEEKS OF THIS ELECTION BECAUSE THEY HAD TO GO TO DIFFERENT STATES. Yepsen: I DISAGREE. I'M AN IOWAN AND I DON'T LIKE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. THEY WEREN'T FANNED OUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THEY WERE ONLY CAMPAIGNING IN ABOUT 20 STATES. AND SECONDLY, THERE'S A COMPROMISE HERE. AND THAT IS INSTEAD OF GETTING RID OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, YOU AWARD ONE ELECTOR PER CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO IT IN MAINE. I THINK THAT DO IT THAT WAY IN NEBRASKA. AND THEN THE WINNER TAKE ALL OF THE TWO SENATE ELECTORS, WHICH BUSTS UP THIS GAME A LITTLE BIT. IT STILL REQUIRES CANDIDATES TO CAMPAIGN IN RURAL AMERICA. IT DOES PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF A RURAL SKEW, BUT IT WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED THIS SITUATION WE'RE IN TODAY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO WIND UP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A HUNDRED YEARS WITH A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO DID NOT GET THE MOST VOTES, AND THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT. IT'S STILL POSSIBLE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW FOR A WHILE ABOUT THE BUSH/GORE THING, BUT IF BUSH WINDS UP GETTING THE MOST ELECTORS, BUT HE WILL NOT HAVE RECEIVED THE MOST VOTES, THEN WE WIND UP WITH A PRESIDENT WHO IS KIND OF A MINORITY PRESIDENT. IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO GOVERN. THERE'S NO MORAL AUTHORITY TO THE PRESIDENCY AS THERE USED TO BE.

Borg: THERE'S ONE THING SURE ABOUT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, A LOT MORE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT NOW THAN BEFORE THE ELECTION.

Henderson: THIS WAS A NICE CIVICS LESSON, WASN'T IT, DEAN?

Yepsen: WELL, IT WILL CHANGE, TOO, AFTER REAPPORTIONMENT, DEAN. AFTER, YOU KNOW -- WE'RE VERY MALAPPORTIONED IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. AS A RESULT OF THE 2000 CENSUS, WE WILL MOVE CONGRESSIONAL SEATS AND ELECTORAL VOTES OUT OF THE NORTHWEST AND THE MIDWEST INTO THE SOUTH AND THE WEST. THAT WILL MAYBE MAKE THIS THING A LITTLE MORE REASONABLE.

Borg: IN OUR CLOSING COUPLE OF MINUTES HERE, LET'S GO INTROSPECTIVE, HOW THE MEDIA PERFORMED IN THIS. YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION, FIRST OF ALL, TO PROJECTING ELECTION RESULTS. WHO DO YOU THINK, JENEANE?

Beck: I FIND THOSE THAT ARE NOT IN THE MEDIA ASK ME ABOUT THIS AND SAY, "WHY DO YOU DO THAT SO MUCH? IT'S CONFUSING IF YOU LIVE ON THE WEST COAST AND THE POLLS HAVEN'T CLOSED AND THEY'RE PROJECTING VOTES ON THE EAST COAST IN STATES THAT HAVE WON." THEN THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO GO VOTE. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THAT HAPPENS BUT PEOPLE SAY TO ME "HOW CAN THEY CALL IT WHEN ONLY FOUR PERCENT OF THE PRECINCTS HAVE REPORTED?" AND SO I THINK THERE IS SOME RELUCTANCE ON THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE US DO THAT, YET THEY'RE TURNING ON THEIR TV OR THEIR RADIO AT 7:00, 8:00, 9:00 AT NIGHT WANTING RESULTS THAT FAST. SO THEY WANT IT BOTH WAYS, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GIVE IT TO THEM ACCURATELY AND QUICKLY BUT MAYBE HOLD OFF WHEN THERE'S A PROBLEM.

Obradovich: WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO A LOT OF REEXAMINATION OF THOSE EXIT POLLS AND THE RELIANCE ON THAT. I THINK AMERICANS PROBABLY LOOK AT THE NETWORKS AND OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. AND THEY HAVE -- TOM BROKAW SAID, "WE DON'T JUST HAVE EGG ON OUR FACE, WE HAVE A WHOLE OMLET." SO I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REEXAMINE HOW THEY GO ABOUT IT.

Yepsen: EXIT POLLS, DEAN, ARE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE'S A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO VOTE BY ABSENTEE. THOSE AREN'T MEASURED IN EXIT POLLS OF VOTERS WHO COME OUT OF THE POLLING BOOTH, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME REFLECTION THERE ABOUT HOW EFFECTIVE -- HOW GOOD THEY ARE. MOST OF THE TIME THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY GOOD.

Borg: CLOSING THOUGHT, KAY?

Henderson: YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MEDIA IS LOOKING AT THIS, AND WE'RE SELF-EVALUATING. BUT I THINK ELECTION OFFICIALS TOO HAVE TO SELF-EVALUATE THE WAY THE VOTES ARE COUNTED. IT'S TAKING AN AWFULLY LONG TIME TO COUNT VOTES IN SOME OF THESE PRECINCTS AND I THINK THAT ELECTION OFFICIALS HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO DEVISE A WAY TO MORE ACCURATELY AND MORE QUICKLY REPORT THE RESULTS.

Borg: THANKS FOR YOUR INSIGHTS. WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE NOVEMBER 7 RESULTS ON FUTURE EDITIONS OF IOWA PRESS. BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS SUNDAY, THIS PROGRAM REMINDER, YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF IOWA PRESS ON THE WORLDWIDE WEB, AND THE ADDRESS IS ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN JOIN US AT WWW.IOWAPRESS.IPTV.ORG. THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF IOWA PRESS. I HOPE YOU'LL WATCH NEXT SUNDAY AT NOON AND 7:00. UNTIL THEN, I'M DEAN BORG. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.

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