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Iowa Press #2830 - Congressman Leonard Boswell
April 1, 2001

Dean Borg: AS THE PRESIDENT TAKES HIS TAX CUTTING PROPOSALS TO THE COUNTRYSIDE, CONGRESS BEGINS WORK ON WIDE-RANGING TAX REFORM AND THE NEW BUDGET. WE'LL GET PERSPECTIVE FROM U.S. CONGRESSMAN LEONARD BOSWELL ON THIS EDITION OF IOWA PRESS.

Narrator: FUNDING FOR IOWA PRESS HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY FRIENDS OF IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION; AND BY THE IOWA BANKERS ASSOCIATION... FOR PERSONAL, BUSINESS, AND COMMERCIAL NEEDS, IOWA BANKS HELP IOWANS REACH THEIR FINANCIAL GOALS; BY THE ASSOCIATION OF BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY... THE VOICE OF IOWA BUSINESS, REPRESENTING THE INTERESTS OF OVER 1,500 IOWA BUSINESSES EMPLOYING 300,000 IOWANS; AND BY THE ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS OF IOWA... THE PUBLIC'S PARTNER IN BUILDING IOWA'S HIGHWAY, BRIDGE, AND MUNICIPAL UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS THE SUNDAY, APRIL 1 EDITION OF IOWA PRESS. HERE IS DEAN BORG.

Borg: WHILE THE EMERGING FEDERAL BUDGET AND THE PUSH FOR CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM HAVE WORKED THEIR WAY ONTO NEWSPAPER FRONT PAGES, IT'S THE ISSUE OF MASSIVE TAX REFORM THAT OVERSHADOWS THE WORK OF THE 107TH U.S. CONGRESS. PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH CAMPAIGNED ON A PROMISE TO REDUCE TAXES BY SOME $1.6 TRILLION, AND THAT TAX PACKAGE WAS THE FIRST LEGISLATION SENT TO CONGRESS. THE LEGISLATION HAS YET TO BE FINALIZED, OF COURSE, BUT SOME WASHINGTON INSIDERS ARE SUGGESTING THAT THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT AND LEADERS OF THE REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED CONGRESS HAVE ALREADY AGREED ON THE DETAILS. EVEN SO THERE IS A LONG WAY TO GO. DEMOCRATS, THOUGH, ARE CHAFING UNDER THE PERCEPTION THAT THEY'RE ONLY SIDELINE OBSERVERS. IT'S AGAINST THAT BACKDROP THAT CONGRESSMAN LEONARD BOSWELL JOINS US THIS SUNDAY. FOLLOWING HIS SERVICE IN THE IOWA GENERAL ASSEMBLY, CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL IS NOW IN HIS THIRD TERM REPRESENTING SOUTH CENTRAL AND SOUTHEASTERN IOWA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. CONGRESSMAN, WELCOME BACK TO IOWA PRESS.

Boswell: THANK YOU, DEAN.

Borg: YOU'VE BEEN WITH US A GOOD NUMBER OF TIMES LEADING THE IOWA SENATE AND NOW BACK AS A CONGRESSMAN. WELCOME.

Boswell: IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

Borg: AND ACROSS HE TABLE, POLITICAL REPORTERS DAVID YEPSEN OF THE DES MOINES REGISTER AND MIKE GLOVER OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS.

Glover: CONGRESSMAN, AS DEAN'S INTRODUCTION WOULD SUGGEST, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT, IN FACT SOME WOULD SUGGEST AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT, OF PARTISANSHIP GOING ON IN WASHINGTON. HOW DOES CONGRESS GET BEYOND THAT AND ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING? IT SEEMS CONGRESS WORKS WHEN CONGRESS CAN MOVE BEYOND THAT KIND OF PARTISAN BICKERING THAT'S GOING ON NOW. HOW DO YOU GET BEYOND THAT?

Boswell: I THINK IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE SOLUTION, IF YOU ALLOW ME TO SAY THIS: "IF THEY WOULD JUST LISTEN TO ME A LITTLE BIT, WE'LL COME TOGETHER." AND I AM WORKING WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO BRING THE COMMON SENSE, WELL-THOUGHT-OUT SOLUTION THAT WOULD WORK FOR THE COUNTRY AND NOT GET US INTO A FISCAL PROBLEM OR TAKE THE RISK. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE THE RISK THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED TO US RIGHT NOW, YET WE CAN DO SOME THINGS PROGRESSIVELY. WE CAN HAVE SOME TAX RELIEF. WE SHOULD HAVE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT OUR COUNTRY INTO A PREDICAMENT LIKE I SEE SOME OF THE STATES ARE GOING INTO RIGHT NOW. NOT TO MENTION, I KNOW THAT KANSAS IS HAVING PROBLEM AND TEXAS IS HAVING PROBLEMS, AND THERE'S A GREAT DEBATE GOING ON HERE. WELL, THE NATIONAL LEVEL -- WE COULD GET OURSELVES INTO A HOLE WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO. WE COULD GO CAREFULLY AND DO SOME TAX RELIEF AND DO SOME THINGS PROGRESSIVELY THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND STILL KEEP OUR FISCAL HOUSE IN ORDER.

Glover: BUT IS THERE A GROUP OF PEOPLE ATTEMPTING TO PUT SOME KIND OF A COALITION, A GROUP TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, OR IS THIS JUST WISHFUL THINKING?

Boswell: NO, THERE'S A GROUP. THERE'S A GROUP IN THE SENATE, KIND OF A CENTRAL GROUP THAT I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT -- THERE'S EFFORTS GOING ON THERE. WE'LL PROBABLY HEAR MORE ABOUT IT NEXT WEEK OR SOON. THERE'S THE NEW DEMOCRAT COALITION IN THE HOUSE. THERE'S A BLUE DOG COALITION AND SO ON THAT ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS CAREFULLY AND OFFER SOLUTIONS THAT ARE PRACTICAL AND WE THINK WOULD WORK. SO, YEAH, THERE'S SOME EFFORT GOING ON.

Yepsen: GIVE US A REPORT CARD. HOW IS CONGRESS DOING?

Boswell: HOW IS CONGRESS DOING? A REPORT CARD? WELL, I WOULDN'T GO ANY HIGHER THAN A "C" RIGHT AT THE MOMENT, BUT THE POTENTIAL IS THERE TO GO TO A MUCH HIGHER GRADE. DAVID, REMEMBER, I'M AN ETERNAL OPTIMIST; I'M A FARMER. YOU'VE GOT TO BE AN OPTIMIST TO BE A FARMER, SO I'M ALWAYS HOPING THAT THERE WILL BE A BETTER DAY.

Borg: I'M INTRIGUED BY THAT COMMENT YOU MADE, "IF THEY WOULD JUST LISTEN TO ME A LITTLE BIT." YOU WERE LEADER OF THE IOWA SENATE.

Boswell: I TRIED TO BE.

Borg: AND THERE, WHAT LEONARD BOSWELL SAID AS PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE CARRIED A LOT OF WEIGHT. HOW IS IT IN CONGRESS? I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE CURIOUS. YOU SAID, "IF THEY'D JUST LISTEN TO ME A LITTLE BIT." ARE YOU SWEPT ALONG WITH THE TIDE OR CAN YOU REALLY INFLUENCE THIS ISSUE OF PARTISANSHIP?

Boswell: WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK I CAN. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THE DIFFERENCE OF HAVING THE GAVEL IN YOUR HAND AND THE MAJORITY IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN GOING TO CONGRESS AND BEING IN THE MINORITY AND JUNIORS. SENIORITY IS A BIG FEATURE IN THE CONGRESS, BOTH THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU USE THE SKILLS THAT YOU'VE LEARNED TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND MOVE AROUND AND VISIT WITH THEM AND TRY TO BRING SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS AND SO ON. I FELT LIKE I HAD GOOD SUCCESS. COULD HAVE HAD MORE, BUT SOME GOOD SUCCESS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION BILL THAT WE PASSED WHEN I FIRST WENT OUT THERE. IT MADE A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE MONEY COMING BACK OUT OF THE TRUST FUND. NO NEW FEES, NO NEW TAXES, A MAJOR CHANGE TO IOWA. IT JUMPED FROM ABOUT $200 MILLION A YEAR TO OVER $300 MILLION BY JUST USING THE TRUST FUND FOR THE PURPOSE IT'S COLLECTED FOR. I WAS A PLAYER IN THAT AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE BEEN THAT, ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHERS. WE HAD TO WORK HARD. IT TOOK US TWO YEARS TO GET IT DONE, BUT WE DID GET IT DONE.

Glover: CONGRESSMAN, EARLIER IN THE DISCUSSION WE TALKED ABOUT THE TAX CUTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. PRESIDENT BUSH HAS PROPOSED A $1.6-TRILLION TAX CUT OVER TEN YEARS. SOME REPUBLICANS SAY THAT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH, THAT IT NEEDS TO BE MORE OF A TAX CUT AND IT NEEDS TO BE MORE FRONT LOADED. SOME DEMOCRATS HAVE SAID YOU'RE GOING TO RUN THE COUNTRY BACK INTO DEFICITS. AFTER ALL THIS DEBATE SORTS OUT, WHERE WILL CONGRESS END UP? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO END UP WITH FOR A TAX CUT?

Boswell: I THINK THERE WILL BE A TAX CUT. I SUSPECT IT WILL BE LESS, AS I HEAR THE DISCUSSIONS OF THE SENATE. SENATOR GRASSLEY -- AND I'M SURE PLEASED HE'S SAYING THIS -- THAT IS, THAT'S A CEILING. HE'S IN A VERY POWERFUL POSITION. WE'RE FORTUNATE RIGHT NOW THAT BOTH OF OUR SENATORS ARE IN VERY POWERFUL POSITIONS BECAUSE SENIORITY MAKES A DIFFERENCE. SO I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT, AND I COMPLIMENT THE THINGS THAT CHUCK HAS SAID AND WHAT HE'S SAYING. BUT IF WE LOOK AT IT CAREFULLY, THAT 5.6 TRILLION, AND THEN START TAKING OUT THE TRUST FUND, SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST, WHICH HAS BEEN PROMISED FOR A REASON, THE MEDICARE TRUST, THE VETERANS RETIREMENT TRUST AND THE TRUST FUNDS OUT, AND YOU CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN TO ABOUT 2.2 PRETTY EASILY, MAYBE EVEN LOWER. WELL, THOSE WERE PROJECTIONS. PROJECTIONS OR MAYBE -- MAYBE THEY'LL HAPPEN. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO IS TAKE THE SURPLUS OUTSIDE OF THE TRUST FUNDS AND TAKE HALF OF IT AND REDUCE THE NATIONAL DEBT, BECAUSE WE ALL GAIN FROM THAT. IF YOU'VE GOT A MAJOR PURCHASE, A FARM, A HOME, A BUSINESS, AND THE INTEREST RATE DROPS, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE, A BIG SAVINGS. TAKE THE OTHER HALF AND SPLIT IT UP A QUARTER TO A QUARTER; A QUARTER OF IT TO SPEND IT ON AGRICULTURE, EDUCATION, HIGH COST OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, WHATEVER WE CAN AGREE ON -- THERE'S SOME PRIORITY NEEDS THERE -- AND THEN THE OTHER QUARTER FOR TAX RELIEF, WHICH WILL BE SIGNIFICANT. AND WE CAN -- WE VOTED ON DOING AWAY WITH THE MARRIAGE PENALTY, WHICH IS LUDICROUS TO HAVE A MARRIAGE PENALTY, AND THAT SHOULD GO. AND THE CHILD CREDITS, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT THE REST OF IT NEEDS TO BE TEMPERED A LITTLE BIT. TO LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT OUR COUNTRY AT RISK, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT.

Glover: THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WHY THE NATION IS DOING A TAX CUT. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO SUGGEST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS JUST COLLECTING TOO MUCH MONEY, IT'S OVERTAXING PEOPLE. THERE ARE OTHERS WHO SUGGEST THAT TAX CUT OUGHT TO BE A STIMULUS FOR THE ECONOMY. HOW DOES THIS TAX CUT STIMULATE THE ECONOMY IF IT DOESN'T DUMP MONEY BACK IN RIGHT AWAY?

Boswell: WELL, IT DOESN'T, AND THAT'S PART OF THE ARGUMENT THAT'S GOING ON AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT, MIKE, IS THE PROPOSAL WITH THE MAJORITY AT THE MOMENT, IT'S OUT. THE REAL ACTIVITY DOESN'T START UNTIL 2006, IF YOU WILL, OR THEREABOUTS. IF WE WANT TO STIMULATE IT, WE OUGHT TO DO SOME KIND OF A REIMBURSEMENT, IF YOU WILL, WITH EVERYBODY. ALL TAXPAYERS SHOULD SHARE IN THIS, AND THAT MONEY WOULD PROBABLY BE SPENT. BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING AT THE MOMENT. THAT'S NOT WHAT PASSED IN THE HOUSE, BUT THE SENATE HAS YET TO DEAL WITH IT, SO WE'LL SEE. THE PROCESS IS NOT DONE.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO CHANGE SUBJECTS. HOOF-AND-MOUTH DISEASE IS A BIG TOPIC AROUND THE WORLD. HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU ABOUT IT SPREADING TO THE UNITED STATES? YOU'RE A CATTLEMAN; YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU ABOUT IT COMING TO THE UNITED STATES, AND IS THE USDA AND CUSTOMS DOING ENOUGH TO PROTECT AMERICAN AGRICULTURE FROM THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE HERE?

Boswell: WELL, THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE, THIS IS NO TIME FOR US TO LET UP ON THE UPGRADE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NATIONAL DISEASE CONTROL CENTER UP NEAR AMES. WE OUGHT TO BE REALLY PUSHING THAT TO KEEP IT THE BEST WE CAN MAKE IT. THERE'S A LITTLE ARGUMENT GOING ABOUT THAT, BUT WE DID GET NINE MILLION TO START THE RENOVATION -- OR THE UPGRADE, IF YOU WILL, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT KIND OF EQUATES TO THE CIVILIAN DISEASE CONTROL CENTER DOWN IN ATLANTA FOR ANIMALS. SO WE NEED TO DO THAT. BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT. THE MAD COW DISEASE, I THINK THAT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF PRETTY EASY. YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT BUT THAT'S A MATTER OF HOW THEY TAKE CARE OF THE REMAINS AND THE TANKING JUST BECOMES A FEED SUPPLEMENT AND SO ON. WE CAN DO THAT. THAT WOULD BE FAIRLY EASY TO DO. THE HOOF-AND-MOUTH DISEASE IS ANOTHER MATTER, AND I DO WORRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF OUR BORDERS WITH MEXICO AND CANADA. THEY'RE NOT OPEN BORDERS, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO IT. THE USDA HAS ASSURED US -- AND WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO IT -- BUT THEY'RE INCREASING THEIR EFFORTS AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO BE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN. BUT, YES, I WORRY ABOUT IT.

Yepsen: WE HAD A GROUP OF IOWA FARMERS COME BACK FROM BRITAIN HERE JUST IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, GOT TO CHICAGO THROUGH CUSTOMS AND SAID THEY WEREN'T EVEN CHECKED AT ALL. THEY'RE FEET WEREN'T CHECKED. NOTHING HAPPENED.

Boswell: REALLY? I'M GLAD YOU SHARED THAT WITH ME. I WILL BE TALKING TO MR. USDA -- OR MS. USDA -- ABOUT THAT TOMORROW.

Yepsen: ARE YOU WORRIED THAT OTHER STATES ARE GOING TO TAKE AWAY A PIECE OF THAT AMES LAB? AREN'T YOU HAVING TO FIGHT TO KEEP THAT HERE? Boswell: OH, I DON'T KNOW THAT BUT, OF COURSE, WHEN THE PRESIDENT IS FROM TEXAS AND THE CHAIR OF THE AG COMMITTEE IS FROM TEXAS, IT MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED. I'M AWARE THAT DOWN AT THEIR AMES, IF YOU WILL, THE COLLEGE STATION, THAT THEY'VE DONE A STUDY. I WORRY ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT. BUT WE'VE GOT SUCH AN INVESTMENT AS A COUNTRY IN THE FACILITY AT AMES. WE NEED TO UPGRADE IT AND IT WILL COST A LOT OF MONEY. BUT WHAT'S ALREADY THERE IN INFRASTRUCTURE IS A MAJOR INVESTMENT, AND I WOULD THINK THAT IF THEY TRY TO MOVE THAT, THERE WILL BE A HUE AND A CRY "THIS IS NOT GOOD SENSE."

Borg: LET ME FOLLOW UP ON THAT. IS THAT REALLY A DANGER THAT MIGHT HAPPEN, OR ARE YOU JUST SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE?

Boswell: ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, DEAN. AND ONCE IN A WHILE YOU HEAR SOME TALK ABOUT IT, BUT NOTHING OFFICIAL. SO I CAN'T SAY THAT THERE'S A DANGER. I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN.

Glover: WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING CONGRESS CAN DO TO COMBAT THIS OUTBREAK OF DISEASE AND OTHER OUTBREAK OF LIVESTOCK DISEASES? IS IT INVEST MORE IN THE AMES LAB? IS THERE SOME OTHER COURSE THAT CONGRESS CAN TAKE?

Boswell: I THINK THAT WOULD BE A VERY IMPORTANT STEP, MIKE, IS TO INVEST IN THAT LAB UP THERE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE BEST TECHNOLOGY AND WE'RE RIGHT UP TO SPEED ON IT AND WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD. AND WE'RE PRONE TO DO THAT. SO, YES, I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF IT.

Glover: WELL, LET'S SAY LEONARD BOSWELL IS EMPEROR OF THE WORLD AND HE COULD WRITE THE LAW ANY WAY HE WANTED. WHAT WOULD YOU WRITE TO DEAL WITH THIS AND OTHER OUTBREAKS IN DISEASE?

Boswell: WELL, I'D HAVE AN ANIMAL DISEASE CONTROL CENTER THAT WAS RIGHT UP TO SPEED, AS WELL AS I WOULD HAVE FOR HUMANS, WHICH WE HAVE IN ATLANTA. WE HAVE THAT AND THAT'S GOOD. BUT I WOULD BE SURE WE HAD IT FOR THE ANIMAL SIDE AS WELL. THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO HAVE IT. THE INFECTIOUS -- FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW ABOUT HOOF-AND-MOUTH AND OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT COME ALONG IN THIS WORLD AND WE OUGHT TO BE PREPARED TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. WE'RE NOT QUITE PREPARED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T INVESTED THAT MONEY.

Glover: WHAT WOULD IT TAKE?

Boswell: WELL, IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT $300- AND- SOME-MILLION RIGHT NOW TO BRING IT RIGHT UP, IF YOU COULD DO IT OVERNIGHT. BUT NINE MILLION SORT OF PUTS A STAKE IN THE GROUND AND STARTS THE PROCESS. THAT'S GOOD BUT WE NEED TO INCREASE ON THAT, AND AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AFFORD MOVE FORWARD, WE OUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD.

Yepsen: I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU ARE A CATTLE PRODUCER YOURSELF. HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THIS ON THIS INDUSTRY? EVERY DAY CONSUMERS ARE -- WE'RE HEARING ABOUT HOOF-AND-MOUTH, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT MAD COW. ARE YOU WORRIED THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO QUIT EATING BEEF?

Boswell: I DON'T THINK SO. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY YET THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THEIR WIFE OR SPOUSE OUT FOR A SPECIAL OCCASION THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEM OUT AND HAVE A STEAK OR A PORK CHOP. SO I GUESS I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT TOO MUCH, BUT I AM CONCERNED WHEN IT COMES TO THE MARKET SIDE AND THE ECONOMY, IT'S VERY POSSIBLE WITH THIS SITUATION THAT THE EXPORTS AND SO ON OF AMERICAN BEEF WILL GO UP. AND THAT COULD BE A POSITIVE SIDE. WE DON'T REALLY WANT IT TO BE POSITIVE AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD, THE EUROPEANS AND SO ON, BUT THAT COULD HAPPEN. WE'VE JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL AS BEST WE CAN TO BE SURE THAT WE PROTECT OUR PRODUCERS AND OUR CITIZENS, AND WE CAN DO IT. WE KIND OF HEAD THE TECHNOLOGY AND WE'VE JUST GOT TO INVEST IN IT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING ALL THAT WE CAN DO.

Borg: THIS ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IN THE AMES FEDERAL LAB, WHAT'S ISN'T BEING DONE NOW THAT WOULD BE DONE BY THIS ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT?

Boswell: WELL, WHAT IT WOULD DO WAS UPGRADE THE LABORATORIES AND GIVE SCIENTISTS --

Borg: BUT WHAT'S THE SHORTCOMING RIGHT NOW?

Boswell: THE SHORTCOMING NOW IS THEY'RE NOT UP TO DATE. THERE'S THINGS THAT THEY COULD HAVE THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE AND MORE EFFICIENT IF THEY HAD THE INVESTMENT. THERE'S TECHNOLOGIES AND EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE THAT'S NOT THERE, AND IT NEEDS TO BE THERE.

Glover: CONGRESSMAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO IS A NEW FARM BILL. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE CURRENT FARM BILL, AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE NEW ONE?

Boswell: WELL, THAT'S THE DEBATE THAT'S GOING ON, MIKE, AS YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S NOT A CONSENSUS. LAST YEAR WE HAD 15 HEARINGS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I WENT TO A LOT OF THEM. TEN OUT IN THE COUNTRY AND FIVE IN WASHINGTON, AND WE'VE HAD SOME INPUT ALREADY THIS YEAR. SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TAKE THE ASPECTS OF THE LAST FARM BILL THAT FARMERS LIKED AND THAT WORKED AND RETAIN THAT AND TRY TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THE SITUATION WE'RE IN NOW IS, WHICH IS UNPRECEDENTED. WE'VE GOT OVERPRODUCTION AROUND THE WORLD. WE'RE IN THE FOURTH YEAR OF IT, AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT. I WON'T HAVE TIME THIS SHOW HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS I HAD WITH THE EUROPEANS, HALF A DOZEN OF US, AND WITH THE JAPANESE OUT IN SEATTLE A YEAR AGO LAST DECEMBER. BUT YOU KNOW, WE GOT A NEW WORLD SITUATION AND NEIGHBORS ARE NOT JUST THAT NEXT FARM DOWN ROAD ANYMORE. WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND NOT DESTROY THEIR PRODUCTION OR THEM DESTROY OURS, BECAUSE THIS GROWING POPULATION -- REMEMBER, 30 YEARS AGO, PEOPLE -- WHEN THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE SIX BILLION PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD BY 2000, PEOPLE SCOFFED. IT HAPPENED. AND NOW THEY'RE SAYING, "WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE NEXT 30, 35." IT'S GOING TO GO TO TWELVE BILLION. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO COMMUNICATE AND WORK TOGETHER.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN, A LOT OF FARMERS GET A LOT OF THEIR INCOME FROM THE GOVERNMENT. THEY SAY THEY DON'T LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE OR IS CONGRESS GOING TO COME UP WITH A FARM PLAN THAT GETS THE PROFIT OUT OF THE MARKETPLACE AND MAKES IT SO THE TAXPAYER DOESN'T HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE AGRICULTURE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY DO.

Boswell: I DOUBT IF THAT CHANGES ENTIRELY, DAVID, AND HERE'S THE REASON WHY. THIS COUNTRY HAS AN UNWRITTEN CHEAP FOOD POLICY. IT'S THERE. DAVID YEPSEN AND MIKE GLOVER LIKE TO NOT SPEND ANY MORE OF YOUR DISPOSABLE INCOME THAN YOU HAVE TO, AND YOU TOO, DEAN, WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY STORE. WE THINK GROCERIES ARE TOO HIGH. BUT YOU COMPARE IT WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD. OUR POLICY THAT WE HAVE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, DEPENDS ON WHICH EXPERTS YOU'RE TALKING TO, BUT 12 TO 14 PERCENT OF AMERICANS' DISPOSABLE INCOME IS FOR FOOD. COMPARED TO ANYPLACE ELSE IN THE WORLD, THE EUROPEANS WOULD BE THE NEXT CLOSEST, IS 25 PERCENT MORE, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE UNDEVELOPED COUNTRIES WHERE IT'S 100 PERCENT. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT, WE WANT THAT CHEAP FOOD POLICY AND SAFEST PLENTIFUL FOOD THAT THERE IS -- AND WE DO HAVE THAT -- THEN I DON'T THINK IT'S UNEXPECTED THAT THE REST OF THE FOLKS WOULD HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT IN SOME WAY.

Yepsen: ANOTHER ISSUE THAT IS FACING AMERICA RIGHT NOW IS THE HIGH COST OF ENERGY. GAS PRICES ARE GOING UP. THE COST OF PRODUCTION IN AGRICULTURE IS GOING UP, CONCERNS ABOUT FERTILIZER SHORTFALLS. WHAT SHOULD CONGRESS DO ABOUT IT?

Boswell: WELL, WE NEED A NATIONAL SUMMIT. WE NEED A NATIONAL POLICY. IT'S WAY OVERDUE. LAST YEAR I WENT TO SECRETARY RICHARDSON, A FEW OF US DID, AND SAID, "YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON THIS." THE CRISIS COMING UP THEN FOR THE WINTER IN THE EAST AND SO ON. WE REALLY PUT THE PRESSURE ON, AND WE GOT THE PRESIDENT AND THE VICE PRESIDENT THEN TO AGREE ON WITH US, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUMMIT. WE DIDN'T DEVELOP THE POLICY AND WE HAVEN'T YET.

Yepsen: NOW YOU'VE GOT A NEW PRESIDENT.

Boswell: AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY TO HIM AND WE ARE SAYING TO HIM AND THE NEW ADMINISTRATION THAT WE NEED TO MOVE ON THIS. THE TIME IS NOW. WE CAN'T HESITATE ANY LONGER. TO BE IN THE CLUTCHES OF OPEC TO THE DEGREE OF ABOUT 60 PERCENT OF OUR ENERGY IS UNACCEPTABLE.

Yepsen: HE'S GOING TO SAY YOU NEED TO DRILL IN THE ARCTIC WILDLIFE RESERVE. HOW WILL YOU VOTE ON THAT?

Boswell: WELL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO SAY IN THAT DISCUSSION, "LET'S DEVELOP THE ALTERNATIVES AND RENEWABLES." WE DON'T HAVE TO TEST ETHANOL ANYMORE. WE DON'T HAVE TO TEST SOYOIL. WE KNOW WE HAVEN'T TAPPED ALL OF WIND AND SOLAR AND HYDRO. WE'VE GOT HYDRO TURBINES HERE IN IOWA THAT ARE NOT WORKING TO CAPACITY. THERE'S A VARIETY OF REASONS FOR IT, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES AND WE OUGHT TO REALLY, REALLY PUSH THOSE BECAUSE THE TIME IS NOW, AND TAKE US AWAY FROM THIS DEPENDENCE ON OPEC, WHICH IS SERIOUS. BIOMASS, THE SWITCHGRASS GOING INTO THE OTTUMWA GENERATING PLANT, IT'S VERY INTERESTING. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. IT MEANS WE CAN DO IT DIFFERENT.

Yepsen: WHAT ABOUT DRILLING IN THE ARCTIC WILDLIFE RESERVE?

Boswell: WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT, AND I KNOW I'M GATHERING INFORMATION AND THERE'S SO MUCH CONFLICT RIGHT NOW. I HAVE LEARNED THIS, THAT ANWAR RESERVE, THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE RESERVE, THERE'S LIKE 19.7 MILLION ACRES. AND THE PART THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ABOUT 2000 ACRES OUT OF THAT.

Yepsen: SO YOU'RE NOT SURE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THAT?

Boswell: HERE'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT, DAVID. AND MY BACKGROUND SHOULDN'T SURPRISE YOU, BUT I SEE US GOING TO THE ALTERNATIVES AND RENEWABLES AND TRYING TO GET LESS DEPENDENT ON OPEC WHEREVER WE CAN, OR I SEE OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM GOING TO THE FAR EAST OR WHEREVER TO GET IT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO WITHOUT ENERGY. SO WHAT IS THE BEST THING, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT EVERY POSSIBILITY TO SEE HOW WE CAN BE MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF RESERVES OFF THE FLORIDA COAST IN NATURAL GAS. WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AND HOW WE CAN SAFELY GET THAT. THE TECHNOLOGY HAS GONE WAY UP AND WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT IT. THAT OUGHT TO BE ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION, AS WELL AS EVERY OTHER POSSIBILITY. BUT I'M REALLY PUSHING FOR THE ALTERNATIVES IN THE RENEWABLES, THE ETHANOL, THE SOY DIESEL, AND BIOMASS AND SO ON.

Glover: CONGRESSMAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONGRESS IS DEBATING RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE HOTTEST DEBATES OF THE YEAR IS CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM... MCCAIN AND FEINGOLD. GIVE US YOUR PREDICTION THAT'S APPARENTLY GOING TO PASS THE SENATE. WHAT'S YOUR PREDICTION AND WHAT WILL EMERGE FROM CONGRESS AND HOW WILL YOU VOTE? WILL THIS SOLVE THE MONEY PROBLEM?

Boswell: I WILL VOTE FOR IT. I WENT THERE PUSHING FOR IT WHEN I ARRIVED. WE WENT TO OUR FIRST ORIENTATION MEETINGS. THERE WAS 70 SOME OF US. Rs AND Ds, WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE FOUND OUT THAT MOST OF US WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, AND WE WANTED TO WORK ON IT AND WE HAVE. I COULD TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND TELL YOU ABOUT IT, BUT WE FORCED THE ISSUE IN THE HOUSE, IN THE 105TH AND THE 106TH CONGRESS, BY DISCHARGE PETITION. BUT WE FORCED THE ISSUE, AND I WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. I WAS GETTING PEOPLE TO SIGN ON, AS WELL AS ANYBODY ELSE. I SIGNED ON EARLY MYSELF, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND WE FORCED THEN SPEAKER GINGRICH TO LET US DEBATE IT. A LOT OF LITTLE FUNNY STUFF HAPPENED BUT WE DID FINALLY PASS THE BILL THAT WE DID, AND IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD BILL. IT WENT TO THE SENATE THE FIRST TIME, THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT UP BECAUSE IT WAS LATE IN THE SEASON. WE CAME BACK IN THE 106TH CONGRESS, WE PASSED IT IN THE FIRST YEAR BEFORE JULY. IT SAT OVER THERE BUT IN THE MEANWHILE, WE'VE GOT MCCAIN AND FEINGOLD VERY INVOLVED. I THINK SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE END RESULT WILL BE. I HOPE OUR HOUSE LEADERSHIP DOESN'T TRY TO SCUTTLE IT, BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ THE TEA LEAVES. WE FORCED THEM TO DEAL WITH IT BEFORE, AND WE'LL PROBABLY DO IT AGAIN.

Glover: TELL ME WHY DEMOCRATS ARE SUPPORTING A BAN ON SOFT MONEY WHEN SOFT MONEY IS THE ONLY AREA OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE WHERE THEY CAN COMPETE WITH REPUBLICANS?

Boswell: BECAUSE IT'S WRONG. IT'S JUST SIMPLY WRONG AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THAT -- DAVE, I DON'T ALWAYS COMPLIMENT THE DES MOINES REGISTER, BUT I WILL THIS MOMENT. I WILL. A COUPLE YEARS AGO RIGHT AFTER THAT ELECTION AND I WAS WORKING VERY HARD ON THE HIGH COST OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. WE KIND OF STARTED OUT OF THIS DISTRICT AND GOT MY FRIEND FROM MAINE AND OTHERS INVOLVED IN IT. WE WERE WORKING ON IT VERY HARD. THERE WAS A LOT OF SOFT MONEY SPENT, IF YOU REMEMBER, ON TV AND RADIO ABOUT CITIZENS FOR THE PROTECTION OF MEDICARE AND SO ON. SOME GROUP, NO ONE KNEW WHO THEY WERE, TO CALL CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL AND TELL THEM NOT TO HARM IT. WELL, THE REGISTER, THEY DID A LEAD EDITORIAL IN DECEMBER ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND THE LEAD EDITORIAL WAS THEY REVIEWED THE WHOLE THING; THEY INVESTIGATED, THANK HEAVENS. AND IN THE END THEY SAID THEY EXPOSED IT WAS THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES WERE PAYING FOR IT, SOFT MONEY, AND SAID THAT BOSWELL WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING AND, YEAH, GO AHEAD AND CALL HIM AND TELL HIM HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB. THANK YOU, DES MOINES REGISTER.

Yepsen: MIKE BRINGS UP POLITICS. WHAT'S YOUR FUTURE? ARE YOU GOING TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR REELECTION?

Boswell: I AM.

Yepsen: NO MATTER WHAT THE DISTRICT -- GO AHEAD, SIR.

Boswell: I'M NOT MAKING AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY, BUT I'M LOOKING YOU SQUARE IN THE EYE AND I INTEND TO CONTINUE. THERE'S TOO MANY THINGS THAT I GOT INVOLVED IN THAT I'M ALL PUMPED UP ABOUT. I WANT TO SEE HOW THEY COME OUT. I WANT TO INFLUENCE IT AND I FEEL LIKE THAT I CAN AND I FEEL ENERGIZED. SO LET'S DON'T WASTE THE INVESTMENT. LET'S GET ON WITH IT.

Glover: AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE DISTRICT IN REAPPORTIONMENT THAT WOULD CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT THAT?

Boswell: I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE. YOU BOTH KNOW I'VE CAMPAIGNED ALL OVER IOWA WITH BONNIE, AND WHEN I WAS PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE, I TRAVELED THE STATE. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE I GO IN THE STATE. DOWNTOWN DES MOINES OR NORTHWEST OR NORTHEAST, I'M COMFORTABLE. SO I INTEND TO RUN FOR CONGRESS. I INTEND TO SERVE.

Yepsen: WHAT ABOUT 2004? YOUR PARTY HAS TO PICK A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. GOT ANYBODY IN MIND?

Boswell: NO, NO.

Yepsen: DICK GEPHARDT?

Boswell: THE FIELD IS OPEN. Yepsen: HOW ABOUT DICK GEPHARDT? HE'S AN OLD FRIEND OF YOURS.

Boswell: THE FIELD IS OPEN. THE FIELD IS OPEN.

Glover: LET'S LOOK BACK A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 2002. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 2004. LET'S LOOK BACK AT 2000. AL GORE LOST THE CLOSEST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN AMERICAN HISTORY. WHAT DID HE DO WRONG? WHAT WENT WRONG?

Boswell: MIKE, I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S ALL KIND OF SPECULATION ABOUT THAT. I THINK HE PROBABLY COULD HAVE WON TENNESSEE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF HE WOULD HAVE USED -- PRESIDENT CLINTON WOULD HAVE GONE THERE AND SO ON. I APPLAUD HIM FOR BEING HIS OWN MAN. I THINK HE HAD TO DO THAT. BUT HE MAY HAVE OVERDONE IT A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW. HE DID WIN AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. I THINK HE WON THE POPULAR VOTE. I STILL BELIEVE THAT. I THINK YOU DO TOO. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WENT WRONG.

Glover: THERE'S A DEBATE -

Boswell: THERE WILL BE -- HISTORIANS, MIKE, WILL BE SPECULATING ON THAT FOR YEARS TO COME.

Glover: WELL, LET'S START IT HERE.

Boswell: WHAT DO YOU MEAN LET'S START IT, YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED IT.

Glover: THERE'S A DEBATE WITHIN THE PARTY. SOME IN THE PARTY ARGUE THAT GORE RAN AS A LIBERAL AND GAVE UP THE KIND OF MODERATE, DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP COUNCIL MANTLE THAT CLINTON HAD HANDED HIM. OTHERS SAY GORE RAN AS A CONSERVATIVE, DIDN'T ENERGIZE DEBATES, DIDN'T FIRE UP LIBERALS. WHAT SIDE DO YOU COME ON?

Boswell: WELL, I THINK HE'S MORE MODERATE THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE REALIZE. YOU LOOK AT HIS HISTORY. I LOOKED HIM OVER PRETTY CAREFULLY, AND I THINK HE'S A LOT MORE MODERATE THAN HE GOT CREDIT FOR. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ACCUSED HIM OF BEING OUT IN FRONT ON, AS TIME DEVELOPS HE WAS KIND OF ON THE RIGHT TRACK OR COULD HAVE BEEN, COULD BE, STILL COULD BE. SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF POINT IN SPECULATING ON THAT, BUT IF I INSIST, I GUESS WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

Glover: WHEN YOU SAY THE FIELD IS OPEN, THEN YOU ARE SAYING THAT SHOULD GORE CHOOSE TO RUN AGAIN, IT'S NOT HIS FOR THE ASKING, HE'LL HAVE TO COMPETE FOR IT.

Boswell: PROBABLY SO BECAUSE I HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL, AT LEAST INITIALLY, IN THAT FIRST WAVE THAT WILL COME THAT WE'LL BE SEEING HERE BEFORE TOO LONG. WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THEM NOW. I WON'T NAME HIM BUT I WAS INVITED OVER TO TALK TO ONE OF THE SENATORS JUST HERE RECENTLY, AND I JUST LOOKED HIM IN THE EYE AND I SAID, "ARE YOU SERIOUS ABOUT IT? I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU'RE SERIOUS. ARE YOU SERIOUS?" AND HE SAID HE WAS.

Glover: I WANT TO GO BACK TO DAVE'S QUESTION. I REMEMBER SITTING ON YOUR FARM ON A HAY BAIL IN 1988 AS DICK GEPHARDT CAMPAIGNED IN HIS 99TH IOWA COUNTY, AND YOU HAD BEEN WITH HIM IN ABOUT 97 OF THOSE COUNTIES.

Boswell: WELL, NOT QUITE 97, BUT SEVERAL.

Glover: ARE YOU SERIOUSLY TELLING US YOU WOULDN'T START OFF INCLINED IN THAT DIRECTION?

Boswell: THAT I'M NOT INCLINED, YOU SAY? WHAT IS THE LAST YOU SAID?

Glover: ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US YOU'RE NOT INCLINED TO START OFF IN THAT DIRECTION?

Boswell: NO, I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF DICK GEPHARDT. I THINK HE'D MAKE A GREAT SPEAKER. I THINK GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY HE'D MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT. LET'S SEE. IT'S JUST TOO EARLY. I'M NOT MAKING ANY COMMITMENTS OUT THERE THAT I'D HAVE TO REGRET OR BACK OFF FROM. I'M BIG ON GEPHARDT. I'M BIG ON OTHER PEOPLE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT A DEMOCRACY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK THEM OVER. AND WE GET TO DO IT EARLY IN IOWA, SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF WAIT AND SEE WHO COMES.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN, WE'VE GOT JUST A MINUTE LEFT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT WHAT ARE PEOPLE TELLING YOU? WHAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE FACING YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE DONE ABOUT IT?

Boswell: WELL, BOTH CAMPAIGNS CAMPAIGNED ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. I DON'T SEE MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. I STILL GO OUT THERE, AS LATE AS YESTERDAY, AND I FIND SENIORS COMING UP TO ME AND SAYING, "I'M IN A PICKLE. I GET ALONG FINE ON MY FIXED INCOME AND SO ON, BUT NOW I'VE BEEN TO THE DOCTOR AND I'VE GOT THIS PRESCRIPTION AND I CAN'T AFFORD IT." IT'S NOT RIGHT. THIS IS AMERICA. THAT IS NOT RIGHT. I SAW TWO PEOPLE YESTERDAY SITTING SIDE BY SIDE, WIDOWS, ONE OF THEM OUT OF A BACKGROUND WHERE THEY HAD BENEFITS AND THEY CARRIED THEM INTO RETIREMENT, AND THE OTHER WAS SELF-EMPLOYED FARMER/RETAILER, WHATEVER, ON MAIN STREET, HAD A SAVINGS PROGRAM, PAID FOR A HOME, SENT THEIR KIDS TO COLLEGE, PROVIDED THEM BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAD, AND HAD A LITTLE NEST EGG. NOW, A PERSON LIVING BY THEMSELVES AND TRYING TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET ALONG ALL RIGHT AND, BINGO, THEY GOT A $600 PRESCRIPTION DRUG BILL AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. THIS IS NOT RIGHT. IN THE MULTIBILLIONS BEING MADE, I'M HAPPY FOR THE PHARMACEUTICALS TO MAKE MONEY, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THAT PERSON OUT THERE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THEIR MEDICINE.

Borg: SO YOU THINK THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD SUPPLEMENT THIS.

Boswell: WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT INTO THE MEDICARE PROGRAM AND WORK WITH IT AND WORK IT OUT.

Borg: I HAVE TO WORK IT OUT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CONGRESSMAN. ON OUR NEXT EDITION OF IOWA PRESS, OUT FOCUS SHIFTS TO THE 79TH IOWA GENERAL ASSEMBLY, NOW IN ITS FINAL MONTH, WE THINK, AT THE IOWA STATEHOUSE. JOINING US ARE THE LEADERS OF THE IOWA SENATE: REPUBLICAN MAJORITY LEADER STEWART IVERSON FROM DOWS; AND THE LEADER OF THE MINORITY DEMOCRATS MIKE GRONSTAL OF COUNCIL BLUFFS. SENATOR IVERSON AND GRONSTAL WILL DISCUSS THE STATE'S BUDGET AND THE SOLUTIONS BEING CONSIDERED BY BOTH THE EXECUTIVE AND THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCHES. THAT'S NEXT SUNDAY AT NOON AND 7:00. THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF IOWA PRESS. I'M DEAN BORG. THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.

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