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Democrat Leonard Boswell and Republican Stan Thompson want to Represent Iowa's Third Congressional District

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September 24, 2004

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Borg: AN ELECTION REMATCH. AGAIN DEMOCRAT LEONARD BOSWELL AND REPUBLICAN STAN THOMPSON WANT TO REPRESENT IOWA'S THIRD CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. WE'LL QUESTION THEM ON THIS EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS."

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ON STATEWIDE IOWA PUBLIC TELEVISION, THIS IS THE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 24 EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS." HERE IS DEAN BORG.

Borg: ON THIS WEEK'S "IOWA PRESS," WE PRESENT THE THIRD OF SIX REVIEWS OF THE CAMPAIGNS OF 2004 IN IOWA, THIS WEEK THE THIRD U.S. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN CENTRAL IOWA. NOW, VOTERS CAN BE PARDONED IF THEY SENSE DEJA VU BECAUSE THE MAJOR-PARTY CANDIDATES FACED EACH OTHER TWO YEARS AGO. AT THAT TIME VOTERS RETURNED DEMOCRAT LEONARD BOSWELL TO CONGRESS, ALBEIT IN A DISTRICT THAT WAS NEWLY CONFIGURED BY REAPPORTIONMENT. REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER STAN THOMPSON OF DES MOINES IS AGAIN SEEKING TO TAKE BOSWELL'S SEAT IN THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. INCUMBENT BOSWELL OF DES MOINES WANTS A FIFTH TERM. HE CURRENTLY IS IOWA'S ONLY DEMOCRAT IN THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. GENTLEMEN, WELCOME BACK TO "IOWA PRESS," BY SATELLITE, CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL.

Boswell: HELLO, DEAN. IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU TODAY.

Borg: THANK YOU. AND, MR. THOMPSON, WELCOME BACK TO "IOWA PRESS."

Thompson: IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK. THANK YOU.

Borg: AND ACROSS THE "IOWA PRESS" TABLE: "DES MOINES REGISTER" POLITICAL COLUMNIST DAVID YEPSEN AND "ASSOCIATED PRESS" SENIOR POLITICAL WRITER MIKE GLOVER.

Glover: MR. THOMPSON, LET'S START THIS WITH YOU. ONE OF THE FIRST HURDLES ANY CHALLENGER FACES WHEN THEY RUN AGAINST AN INCUMBENT POLITICIAN IS CONVINCING VOTERS THAT THE INCUMBENT OUGHT TO GO. WHY SHOULD THE VOTERS OF THIS DISTRICT REPLACE LEONARD BOSWELL?

Thompson: WELL, THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS. AND IT STARTS OFF WITH THE TERM-LIMIT PLEDGE THAT HE TOOK. I'VE GOT A COPY OF THAT WITH ME. HE TOOK A TERM-LIMIT PLEDGE THAT HE SIGNED AND HAD WITNESSED, AND IT SAID HE WOULD ONLY SERVE EIGHT YEARS. AND HE'S HAD HIS EIGHT YEARS AND NOW HE'S GOING TO BREAK HIS PLEDGE THAT HE MADE TO THE VOTERS. AND I BELIEVE IOWA VOTERS EXPECT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO KEEP THEIR WORD. NOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT HIS RECORD OVER THE EIGHT YEARS. AND IF HE WANTS TWO MORE YEARS, HE HAS TO SAY WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO BECAUSE IN HIS FIRST EIGHT YEARS IN OFFICE, HE'S HAD NOT ONE SINGLE BILL BECOME LAW. HE'S 0 FOR 8; NO BILLS IN EIGHT YEARS. AND WE BELIEVE THAT WHETHER IT'S BUSINESS, POLITICS, OR SPORTS, 0 FOR 8 IS NOT A VERY GOOD RECORD.

Glover: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, LET'S TURN IT TO YOU. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO EARN YET ANOTHER TERM IN CONGRESS, AND WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE CHARGE YOU'RE BREAKING YOUR TERM-LIMITS PLEDGE AND YOU HAVEN'T ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING?

Boswell: WELL, I THINK THEY'RE BOTH MISREPRESENTATION, IN A SENSE. NOW, I TOLD YOU, MIKE, AND ALSO DAVID, I GUESS, TWO YEARS AGO, THE THINKING PERSON IS ALLOWED TO CHANGE THEIR MIND. YES, I SIGNED THAT. I DON'T DENY THAT. MY GRANDFATHER TOLD ME ONE TIME A THINKING PERSON IS ALLOWED TO CHANGE THEIR MIND WITH NEW INFORMATION. AND SO I TOLD YOU A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR IOWA, THAT IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE FOR US TO DO THAT, FOR US TO EVER HAVE A CHANCE TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS AND NOT HAVE CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK, FLORIDA RUNNING EVERYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO COMMITTEES OR WHATEVER. SO I SAID THAT WAS NOT GOOD FOR IOWA, AND SO THEREFORE, I'M WITHDRAWING THAT PLEDGE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE AND I'VE TOLD YOU WELL IN ADVANCE.

Glover: MR. THOMPSON?

Boswell: ON THE 0-FOR-8 PIECE, I THINK IT'S JUST STAN IS KIND OF SHOWING HIS LACK OF EXPERIENCE HERE. I'VE LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO IF YOU WANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE, YOU JOIN WITH OTHERS. AND IF HE THINKS IT'S NOTHING ACCOMPLISHED TO HAVE 85 MILLION COMING TO IOWA FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS AS WE'VE DONE OR ADDING A BILLION TO THE AGRICULTURE BILL IS NOT SIGNIFICANT, WHY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S COMING FROM.

Glover: LET'S GO BACK TO MR. THOMPSON. MR. THOMPSON, HOW DO YOU RESPOND? HE SAYS HE TOLD US TWO YEARS AGO HE WAS GOING TO BREAK THAT PLEDGE, THAT THAT'S NOT NEW NEWS.

Thompson: WELL, I THINK WHEN HE TOOK THE PLEDGE, HE'D ALREADY SERVED IN CONGRESS FOR TWO YEARS. AND I RECALL READING ONE OF HIS REASONS FOR THAT WAS THE WAR ON TERROR, SEPTEMBER 11 KIND OF CHANGED EVERYTHING. AND HE VOTED TO SEND OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS INTO WAR. AND AS YOU KNOW, IOWA HAS A HIGHER PROPORTION OF GUARD AND RESERVES THAN ANY OTHER IN THE UNION SERVING THERE. AND WHEN IT CAME TIME TO FUND OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS IN WAR, PROVIDE THEM THE MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES THEY NEEDED, HE VOTED AGAINST IT. THERE ARE 535 MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE. ONLY 26 VOTED THAT WAY. THAT WAS A VERY BAD VOTE.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT ACCUSATION?

Boswell: WELL, I'M HAPPY NOW, DAVID, YOU'VE GIVEN ME TIME TO TELL YOU THE STORY ON THIS BECAUSE YOU'LL BE INTERESTED IN HEARING IT. AND SINCE MR. THOMPSON TRANSCENDED A PIECE OF PAPER, I'VE GOT ONE TOO.

Yepsen: WHAT IS IT? GO AHEAD.

Boswell: OKAY. WELL, THEY WANTED 87 BILLION. WE'D ALREADY SPENT NEARLY 80 BILLION WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY ON NEARLY A FOURTH OF IT, SO I THOUGHT WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY. THIS IS ALL WITH BORROWED MONEY. NOW, FOR ANYBODY TO SUGGEST THAT LEONARD BOSWELL DOESN'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS, FROM WHERE I'VE BEEN IN MY LIFE, IS ABSURD, ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. SO I CHECKED TO SEE WAS THERE MONEY IN THE PIPELINE -- MONEY IN THE PIPELINE FOR BEANS AND BULLETS AND MAINTENANCE AND ALL THOSE THINGS, AND THIS PIECE OF PAPER HERE SAYS THERE WAS. SO HALIBURTON CAN'T EVEN SPEND 87 BILLION IN A SHORT TIME, SO MY SUGGESTION WAS THAT WE GO 25 OR 30 TO MAKE SURE THE PIPELINE WAS FILLED AND HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY. WELL, THE PRESIDENT SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ALL OR NONE. NOW, ALL OF THIS IS ON BORROWED MONEY, EVERY PENNY OF IT, THE LARGEST DEFICIT EVER ALL OF IT ON BORROWED MONEY. NOW, LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE PART OF IT. OVER 20 BILLION OF IT WAS GOING TO BE TO REBUILD INFRASTRUCTURE. NOW, THINK BACK A LITTLE BIT. DRESDEN, MINTZ, BERLIN, THEY WERE LEVELED DURING WORLD WAR II. BAGHDAD WAS NOT. I'VE BEEN THERE. I'VE LOOKED. AND WITH TODAY'S SPECIAL ABILITIES, IF THEY WANT TO TAKE OUT A BUILDING, THEY TOOK OUT A BUILDING. THERE WASN'T THAT MASS DESTRUCTION. SO THEY WANTED TO GO IN THERE AND DO NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S FINE, BUT BUILD SCHOOLS AND FIREHOUSES, CLOSE THE MINAR PLACE AND SO ON. BUT THEY'VE GOT THE SECOND LARGEST OIL RESERVE IN THE WORLD, AND I SAID WHY DON'T WE LOAN THAT TO THEM --

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN --

Boswell: WHY DON'T WE LOAN IT TO THEM WITH LOW INTEREST, NO INTEREST --

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL --

Boswell: MAYBE WE CAN GET IT BACK. EVERY PENNY OF IT IS BORROWED MONEY.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO MOVE ONTO ANOTHER QUESTION. THAT WAS THEN. THIS IS NOW. WHAT SHOULD WE DO PROSPECTIVELY ABOUT IRAQ?

Boswell: WELL, WE HAD THE PRESIDENT -- THE INTERIM PRESIDENT HERE YESTERDAY AND WE LISTENED TO HIS PRESENTATION. I WOULD GUESS YOU ALL SAW THAT SO I WON'T GO TO THAT. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO GO WITH NEW VIGOR, NEW LEADERSHIP IN THE SENSE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. WE MIGHT THINK OF IT IN THREE TERMS. THINK OF IT AS THE DIPLOMACY SIDE OF IT. THE COUNTRIES AROUND IRAQ, GET THEM MORE INVOLVED, INCLUDING THE EUROPEANS. THEY, I THINK, ARE READY.

Borg: HOW DO YOU DO THAT, CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL?

Boswell: I THINK YOU GO THERE WITH SOME NEW LEADERSHIP AND SOME NEW -- A NEW VIGOR IN A SENSE THAT YOU'VE GOT MORE AT STAKE THAN WE DO, SO WHY WOULDN'T YOU BE THERE. AND COME TO THE TABLE; INVITE FRANCE, GERMANY, RUSSIA, ANYBODY. COME TO THE TABLE AND BE PART OF THE DECISION --

Yepsen: MR. THOMPSON --

Boswell: YEAH, WE WANT YOU TO HELP PAY FOR IT, BUT COME TO THE TABLE AND TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP.

Yepsen: MR. THOMPSON, SAME QUESTION TO YOU. LOOKING FORWARD, WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT THE PROBLEM OF IRAQ NOW?

Thompson: YES, I MEAN IT'S IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN IRAQ. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE FREE ELECTIONS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IRAQIS CAN BETTER DEFEND THEMSELVES. AND THAT MEANS STAYING THE COURSE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THE STAKES ARE VERY, VERY HIGH IN THAT PART OF THE REGION -- OF THE WORLD. AND ONCE AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE SET THE COURSE AND WE NEED TO SEE IT THROUGH.

Borg: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, THIS WAS A PREEMPTIVE UNILATERAL STRIKE AT IRAQ. WOULD YOU DO THE SAME THING? WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE SAME THING AGAIN ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD UNDER THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES?

Boswell: WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO DEFINE THAT, MASS DESTRUCTION WEAPONS, HOW YOU PUT THAT INTO IT. YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION PRETTY MUCH SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD ONLY DO THIS -- ONLY DO THIS IF SADDAM HAD HIS FINGER ON THE TRIGGER FOR MASS DESTRUCTION AGAINST AMERICANS. IN THAT CASE, OF COURSE YOU'D HAVE TO PREEMPT. BUT OTHERWISE IT'S A LAST RESORT. YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN TO WAR AS I'VE BEEN AND HAVE WATCHED PEOPLE DIE AND PUT THEM IN BODY BAGS -- IT'S GOT TO BE A LAST RESORT BEFORE WE SEND OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS OFF TO DO THIS --

Borg: MR. THOMPSON --

Boswell: AND I WAS ASSURED THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE CASE, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE THAT WAS THE CASE NOW.

Borg: MR. THOMPSON, SAME QUESTION. UNILATERALLY WE DID IT IN IRAQ. WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE SAME ACTION AGAIN, OR HAVE WE LEARNED OUR LESSON?

Thompson: WELL, YOU ALWAYS LEARN AS TIME GOES BY, AND I THINK THE WAR ON TERROR IS DIFFERENT, THOUGH. WE FACE A DIFFERENT THREAT IN TERMS OF HAVING IN THE PAST WHERE NATION STATES MAY DECLARE WAR. THIS IS A DIFFERENT WAR AND IT'S A WAR THAT CAN TAKE PLACE ON OUR SHORES OR ANYPLACE IN THE WORLD. AND I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S TAKING PLACE IN IRAQ AS OPPOSED TO TAKING PLACE HERE ON OUR SHORES. AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE VIGILANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAR DOES NOT COME OVER HERE TO THE HOMELAND.

Glover: MR. THOMPSON, CONGRESS JUST VOTED TO MAKE PERMANENT A SERIES OF RELATIVELY MODEST TAX CUTS. WOULD YOU HAVE VOTED TO SUPPORT THAT?

Thompson: YES, I WOULD HAVE.

Glover: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, CONGRESS JUST VOTED TO MAKE PERMANENT A SERIES OF TAX CUTS. DID YOU VOTE FOR THAT?

Boswell: YES, I DID. THAT WAS FOR EXPANDING CHILD CREDITS, MARRIAGE PENALTY, AND ALSO A REDUCTION FOR EVERYBODY'S ACROSS --

Glover: AND WILL YOU VOTE TO MAKE THE REST OF THE TAX CUTS PERMANENT?

Boswell: I CAN'T SAY THAT. LET'S SEE HOW THEY PRESENT IT, BUT I CERTAINLY VOTED FOR THAT LAST NIGHT.

Glover: MR. THOMPSON, WOULD YOU VOTE TO MAKE THE REMAINDER OF THE TAX CUTS, INCLUDING THE INCOME TAX CUTS, PERMANENT?

Thompson: YES, I WOULD. ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A STRONG ECONOMY. AND I CERTAINLY FAVOR CLOSING DOWN CORPORATE LOOPHOLES THAT WOULD SEND JOBS OVERSEAS. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY THAT'S IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST TO DO THAT. SO THOSE TAX LOOPHOLES NEED TO BE CLOSED. BUT TO MAKE OUR ECONOMY, PARTICULARLY MANUFACTURING, MORE COMPETITIVE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THOSE INDIRECT COSTS THAT BUSINESSES HAVE, TAXATION, REGULATION, AND LITIGATION. THOSE ARE ALL AREAS WHERE I WANT TO GO TO CONGRESS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT BETTER?

Glover: ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE DEFICIT?

Thompson: ABSOLUTELY, YOU HAVE TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THE DEFICIT. AND THE BEST WAY TO KEEP THAT DEFICIT DOWN IS TO GROW THE ECONOMY. AND I THINK FOCUSING ON THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT WITH JOB CREATION, THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, I WANT TO SWITCH GEARS HERE AND ASK YOU ABOUT TRADE. WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF TRADE? TRADING WITH OTHER COUNTRIES IS IMPORTANT TO IOWA, AND YET, AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE IN THIS STATE ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS OVERSEAS. HOW DO YOU BALANCE TRADE AND THE OUTSOURCING QUESTION?

Boswell: WELL, THE OUTSOURCING QUESTION CERTAINLY NEEDS ADDRESSED AND PEOPLE TO HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF OUTSOURCING AND NOT SHARE IN PART OF WHAT IT COSTS TO RUN OUR COUNTRY IS JUST CERTAINLY NOT FAIR, AND IT NEEDS TO BE CONFRONTED. AND WE ARE AND I'M PART OF THAT. AS FAR AS OUT -- THE JOBS GOING AWAY, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO KEEP LOSING MANUFACTURING JOBS. SOME PEOPLE SUGGEST, WELL, WE COULD EVEN GO OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY --

Yepsen: WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT?

Boswell: WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THOSE COUNTRIES AND BE SURE THAT WE TALK FAIR TRADE. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE FAIRNESS. WE CAN'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE TAKE THE WHOLE HIT HERE AND THEY DON'T SHARE IN IT. AND WE'VE GOT TO MEET CHALLENGES. CHINA HAS GOT 500 MILLION MOVING FROM THE COUNTRY INTO THE CITIES, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY -- A VERY HARD THING TO DEAL WITH. BUT WE'VE GOT TO GO TO THE TABLE AND TALK TO THEM.

Yepsen: AND, MR. THOMPSON, SAME QUESTION TO YOU. WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT TRADE? HOW DO YOU BALANCE OUTSOURCING VERSUS IOWA'S NEED TO SELL ABROAD?

Thompson: WELL, WE HAVE SOME VERY REAL CONCERNS IN THIS DISTRICT. ON CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL'S WATCH, MAYTAG IN NEWTON HAS LOST OVER A THOUSAND JOBS. WE JUST HAD A PLANT -- A BEEF PROCESSING PLANT IN TAMA CLOSE, WHICH WAS -- YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF THING YOU WANT TO HAVE FOR IOWA AGRICULTURE IS A VALUE-ADDED PLANT WHERE PRODUCERS WERE THE MAJORITY OWNERS.

Yepsen: DIDN'T THAT CLOSE BECAUSE THE PRICE OF BEEF WAS TOO HIGH? EXCUSE ME. WHAT DID HE HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?

Thompson: WELL, IT CLOSED BECAUSE OF OPENING MARKETS. CERTAINLY WITH THE BSE OUTBREAK, IT LED TO JAPAN DECIDING NOT TO IMPORT BEEF FROM THAT PLANT. AND AS IT GETS BACK TO TRADE, DAVID, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO OPEN MORE MARKETS. TWO YEARS AGO ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES BETWEEN LEONARD BOSWELL AND MYSELF WAS FAST TRACK, TRADE PROMOTION AUTHORITY. I SUPPORTED IT. HE OPPOSED IT. THAT'S GOING TO COME UP FOR RENEWAL IN THE NEXT CONGRESS. AND I BELIEVE CERTAINLY IN AGRICULTURE AND THE OTHER SECTORS OF OUR ECONOMY, THE BEST WAY TO COMPETE IS OPENING UP MORE MARKETS BECAUSE I BELIEVE OUR FARMERS, EVEN OUR MANUFACTURERS ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD CAN COMPETE WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN, A QUICK RESPONSE. WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT FAST TRACK?

Boswell: WELL, FAST TRACK, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TIME I DID SUPPORT IT. IT WAS MORE FAIR. IT WAS MORE BALANCED. THE SECOND TIME IT WAS NOT. AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT CHILD LABOR, BUT I DO. I'VE WATCHED IT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND IOWANS CARE ABOUT IT TOO. THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE TOLD ME. SO WE'VE GOT TO HAVE FAIRNESS AND WE HAVE BALANCE. AND WE'VE GOT TO STRIVE NOT THE REDUCE THE STANDARD LIVING FOR THE WORKING FAMILIES. IT'S GOT TO BE BROUGHT UP, AND OUR STRIVE OUGHT TO BE TO BRING IT UP TO OTHER PLACES AROUND THE WORLD, NOT TO BRING OURS DOWN.

Glover: MR. THOMPSON, LET'S SWITCH TO ANOTHER DOMESTIC ISSUE THAT'S ON THE MINDS OF A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND THAT'S HEALTH CARE. THERE ARE SUGGESTIONS THERE ARE 45 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY LACKING HEALTH CARE. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT BROADENING HEALTH COVERAGE, BRINGING IN THE UNINSURED. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

Thompson: SURE. YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WITH THE MEDICAID PROGRAM, YOU CAN LOOK AT EXPANSION OF THAT. HERE IN THE STATE OF IOWA, WE HAVE THE HAWKEYE PROGRAM, WHICH HELPS MAKE INSURANCE MORE AFFORDABLE. OTHER WAYS WE CAN BRING DOWN COSTS OF HEALTH CARE AND INSURANCE, ONE THING I FAVOR IS IMPORTATION OF DRUGS FROM CANADA -- PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. I JOINED WITH SENATOR GRASSLEY ON THAT. I THINK THAT IS A WAY TO HELP KEEP HEALTH CARE COSTS DOWN. CERTAINLY ON TORT REFORM FOR MEDICAL LIABILITY. AS YOU TRAVEL THIS DISTRICT, PARTICULARLY IN RURAL IOWA, I VIEW THOSE CAPS ON NONECONOMIC DAMAGES, FRANKLY, AS A PATIENT ACCESS ISSUE, BECAUSE AS DOCTORS WERE CUTTING BACK THEIR SCOPE OF SERVICE OR LEAVING SERVICE ALTOGETHER, THAT'S BAD FOR OUR ECONOMY. IT'S BAD FOR PATIENTS.

Glover THERE ARE STUDIES THAT SUGGEST THAT THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT TWO PERCENT OF THE COST OF HEALTH CARE.

Thompson: WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THIS, I KNOW THE IOWA MEDICAL SOCIETY HAS SUPPORTED CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL IN THE PAST. THEY'RE SUPPORTING US NOW. THEY FEEL VERY, VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT. AND I AGREE WITH THEM, I THINK THAT IS A PATIENT ACCESS ISSUE, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE MIX ON HOW WE KEEP COSTS DOWN. FURTHER USE OF GENERICS -- GENERIC DRUGS ARE ANOTHER WAY TO KEEP COSTS DOWN. HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS, WHICH WERE PART OF THE GRASSLEY MEDICARE MODERNIZATION ACT THAT CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL OPPOSED -- VOTED AGAINST, INCLUDING THE MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT RATE ISSUE. ONCE AGAIN, BOTH OF US CAMPAIGNED TWO YEARS AGO ON INCREASING THE REIMBURSEMENT RATE THAT IOWA RECEIVED, BECAUSE THAT SHORTCHANGED OUR DOCTORS, HOSPITALS, FRANKLY, OUR PATIENTS. AND WHEN THAT BILL CAME UP IN THE CONGRESS, HE VOTED AGAINST IT.

Glover: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, CAN WE GET A RESPONSE FROM YOU?

Boswell: YOU CERTAINLY CAN. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. FOUR HUNDRED BILLION AND LANGUAGE IN THAT BILL THAT SAID THE 45 MILLION SENIORS CANNOT BARGAIN FOR A PRICE FOR PHARMACEUTICALS, AND STAN WANTS TO SUPPORT THAT! THINK ABOUT THAT. ALSO, WE HAD THE REIMPORTATION BILL THAT WAS IN THERE TO BE PART OF THAT CONFERENCE, AND IT DISAPPEARED IN THAT CONFERENCE. YOU KNOW, THE ASSISTANCE FOR REIMBURSEMENT ON MEDICARE WAS GOOD, BUT WE WERE FIFTIETH IN THE NATION GOING IN AND WE WERE FIFTIETH IN THE NATION COMING OUT, SO IT DIDN'T FIX THAT. THERE WAS SOME HELP BUT IT CREATED AN AWFUL THING IN THE SENSE OF THE PHARMACEUTICAL SIDE. AND YOU GO OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT IOWANS AND ACROSS THE NATION -- ABOUT TEN PERCENT ARE BUYING INTO IT. THEY DON'T LIKE IT. THEY DON'T THINK IT WORKS, IT'S NOT BEING USED, IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SPENT MILLIONS IN ADVERTISEMENT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S JUST NOT WORKABLE.

Glover: OKAY. YOU DIDN'T LIKE THAT BILL. SAME QUESTION TO YOU. FORTY-FIVE MILLION AMERICANS DON'T HAVE HEALTH CARE. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO GET THEM HEALTH CARE?

Boswell: ARE YOU TALKING TO ME STILL?

Glover: YES.

Boswell: FINE. WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REOPEN THAT ISSUE AND OPEN IT BACK UP. THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO BARGAIN FOR A PRICE. THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION DOES IT. THERE IS A PRECEDENT. YOU SHOW ME A VETERAN THAT DOESN'T WANT TO GO TO THE VETERANS FACILITY AND GET THEIR DRUGS. THEY ALL DO FOR GOOD REASON. THEY CAN BARGAIN FOR A PRICE. AND FOR THE PHARMACEUTICALS TO GET IN THAT BILL -- AND THAT'S WHO PUT IT IN THERE, IN THAT BILL -- THAT THEY CANNOT, THE LANGUAGE IS THERE, IS ABSURD. IT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED AND REDONE.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, WE LIKE TO GIVE CANDIDATES A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE NEGATIVES THAT ARE BEING THROWN AT THEM IN THIS CAMPAIGN. TWO THINGS COME TO MIND HERE. ONE IS YOU LOST THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE IOWA FARM BUREAU. YOU HAD IT IN THE PAST. YOU LOST IT THIS TIME. WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THAT? AND SECONDLY, YOU'VE BEEN CRITICIZED BY SOME FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE NATIVE AMERICAN CASINO PROBLEM UP IN TAMA. WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?

Boswell: WELL, THE FARM BUREAU, OF COURSE, I WAS DISAPPOINTED. I'VE BEEN A FARM BUREAU MEMBER FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL TELL YOU OUT FRONT THEY'RE A REPUBLICAN ORGANIZATION OVERALL, AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE FACTS. NOW, I HAVE HAD THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE FARMERS UNION. I'VE HAD SUPPORT FROM CORN GROWERS. JUST THIS WEEK THE NATIONAL PORK PRODUCERS, WITH THE IOWA PORK PRODUCERS PRESENT, PRESENTED ME WITH THEIR OUTSTANDING AWARD. AND I HAVE THAT -- IT'S THE SECOND TIME I'VE RECEIVED IT. SO AGAIN, IT'S ABSURD THAT LEONARD BOSWELL DOESN'T SUPPORT FARMERS. I UNDERSTAND FARMING AND AGRICULTURE. AND EVEN THE FARM BUREAU, THEIR GOVERNMENT RELATIONS PERSON SAID THAT THEY WERE IN OUR OFFICE 21 TIMES THIS LAST CYCLE, AND EVERY TIME WE SUPPORTED IT. SO YOU FIGURE IT OUT. FARMERS SUPPORT LEONARD BOSWELL.

Yepsen: WHAT ABOUT THE CASINO ISSUE?

Boswell: WELL, THEY HAD A PROBLEM OUT THERE. AND A CONSTITUENT COME IN AND SAID WHO DOES THE GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZE. WELL, I HAD NEVER HAD THAT COME UP BEFORE, SO I WENT TO THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND SAID, "WHO DO YOU RECOGNIZE?" AND THEY SAID, "THOSE THAT ARE ELECTED." AND SO I ANSWERED AND THEY DECIDED TO TAKE THIS ADMINISTRATION RESPONSE, IF YOU WILL, AND GO AROUND AND SAYING SOMETHING THAT WASN'T TRUE. THEY SAID THEY RECOGNIZED THE ELECTED UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION. AND MEANWHILE WE WENT TO THE GAMING COMMISSION AND SAID YOU NEED TO GET THIS BACK INTO OPERATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE JOBS AND SO ON. WE HAVE JOINED WITH THE SENATORS IN EFFORTS TO EXPEDITE THAT, AND IT TURNED OUT THAT OUT THERE AT THE RESERVATION OR THE SETTLEMENT, THEY JUST HAD TO WORK IT OUT. AND THEY'VE DONE THAT.

Glover: MR. THOMPSON, LET'S TURN TO YOU. SOME OF THE CRITICISM THAT GETS LEVELED AT YOU IS (A) YOU'RE A DES MOINES LAWYER WITHOUT MUCH POLITICAL EXPERIENCE IN ELECTED OFFICE AND YET YOU'RE RUNNING FOR CONGRESS, AND (B) CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL HAS SOME EXPERIENCE, AND CONGRESS IS A PLACE WHERE EXPERIENCE AND SENIORITY COUNT. WHY SHOULD THE VOTERS OF THIS DISTRICT REPLACE A CONGRESSMAN WITH SOME SENIORITY?

Thompson: SURE. WE CAN GET BACK TO THE FARM BUREAU. CERTAINLY THAT IS A MEMBER-BASED, PRODUCER-BASED ORGANIZATION. AND I WOULD DISAGREE WITH CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL. IN THE PAST, THEY'VE ENDORSED GOVERNOR VILSACK AND THEY'VE ENDORSED SENATOR HARKIN, SO TO SAY IT'S A REPUBLICAN ORGANIZATION I DON'T THINK IS FAIR. I THINK WITH FARM BUREAU --

Boswell: ASK THEM.

Thompson: WELL, I THINK WHAT FARM BUREAU DID --

Boswell: JUST ASK THEM.

Thompson: THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT FARM BUREAU DID IS RECOGNIZE WHAT THE VOTERS IN THIS DISTRICT ARE GOING TO RECOGNIZE; IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE. THEY RECOGNIZE THAT I'LL BE GOOD FOR AGRICULTURE. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT I'VE DONE IN MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER, I THINK THAT FITS VERY, VERY WELL WITH THIS DISTRICT THAT'S URBAN, THAT'S SUBURBAN, AND IT'S ALSO RURAL. I GREW UP IN A RURAL AREA, AND THAT'S HOW I GOT THE FARM BUREAU SUPPORT. ON THE ISSUE OF EXPERIENCE, I WOULD SAY THIS: I THINK OUR DISTRICT IS BETTER OFF WITH A MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO IS WORKING WITH A MAJORITY PARTY WHO CAN GET IN THERE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE FROM DAY ONE AND CONTINUE TO MOVE UP THE RANKS. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL IS A BACK-BENCHER. HE'S NOT MOVING UP IN THE RANKS OF HIS OWN PARTY. IN FACT, WHETHER IT WAS UNDER DICK GEPHARDT AS MINORITY LEADER OR NANCY PELOSI, THREE TIMES HE TRIED TO GET ON THE POWERFUL APPROPRIATION COMMITTEE THAT CONGRESSMAN TOM LATHAM SERVES ON, AND EACH OF THOSE THREE TIMES, HIS OWN LEADERSHIP PASSED HIM OVER. WE DESERVE BETTER THAN A PASSED-OVER MEMBER OF CONGRESS.

Glover: BUT IF THIS DISTRICT IS SPLIT BETWEEN AN URBAN AREA AND A RURAL AREA, WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE RURAL PARTS OF THIS DISTRICT? I WAS BORN IN A SMALL TOWN TOO IN DOWNSTATE ILLINOIS, AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FARMING. YOU'RE AN URBAN LAWYER. WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE RURAL FOLKS OF THE DISTRICT?

Thompson: WELL, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAIN PROBLEMS FACING AGRICULTURE GET BACK TO THE ABILITY TO HAVE MORE FARM INCOME. AND IN MY MIND, THAT'S TWO COMPONENTS: EXPANDING TRADE; AND THE SECOND THING IS VALUE-ADDED AGRICULTURE, AND THAT'S THROUGH LIVESTOCK. AS I TALKED ABOUT THE TAMA PLANT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE HAPPENING. ALSO RENEWABLE FUEL IS A PART OF VALUE-ADDED AGRICULTURE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO DO IN CONGRESS IS MAKE IOWA AN ENERGY STATE. I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH EXECUTIVES IN THIS DISTRICT AT PIONEER THAT ARE WORKING ON DEVELOPING A NEW PLANT, WHETHER IT'S CORN-BASED OR SWITCH GRASS, THE ENTIRETY OF WHICH WILL BE USED FOR NOTHING ANOTHER THAN RENEWABLE FUELS. THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING STUFF THAT'S GOING ON HERE THAT HELPS NOT ONLY URBAN AND SUBURBAN AREAS, BUT ALSO RURAL AREAS. AND I WANT TO BE A LEADER IN WIND ENERGY ALSO, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP WITH A NEW VISION.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT ONE CRITICISM THAT HE JUST MADE OF YOU HERE, AND THAT WAS YOU'RE A BACK-BENCHER WHO'S GOING NOWHERE IN THE HOUSE. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?

Boswell: WELL, I DIDN'T SEEK TO GO ON THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, BUT I'M ON THE AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE, I'M ON THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, AND I'M BRINGING 85 MILLION TO SPECIAL PROJECTS TO MAKE IT SAFER AND MOVE COMMERCE AND SO ON TO OUR STATE. AND I'M ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. I'M THE RANKING MEMBER ON HUMAN RESOURCES -- OR HUMAN INTELLIGENCE, WHICH IS THE SPIES. NOW, WHICH ONE OF THOSE DOES STAN THINK IS NOT IMPORTANT TO IOWA? HE DOESN'T THINK AGRICULTURE IS IMPORTANT? HE DOESN'T THINK INFRASTRUCTURE IS IMPORTANT? HE DOESN'T THINK INTELLIGENCE IS IMPORTANT? I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY IMPORTANT. SO THAT'S MY RESPONSE TO THAT. I'VE GOT VERY SIGNIFICANT ROLES, AND I HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. YOU KNOW, WE INCREASE -- WE TURNED IOWA ON THE TRANSPORTATION FUND FROM 200 BILLION TO 315 OVER A SIX-YEAR PERIOD THE LAST TIME. THIS TIME IT'S GOING TO BE MORE.

Borg: CONGRESSMAN, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. I WANT TO GIVE MIKE GLOVER A QUESTION.

Glover: YEAH, CONGRESSMAN, LET'S GO BACK TO THE SAME QUESTION I ASKED STAN THOMPSON. I ASKED WHAT AN URBAN LAWYER BRINGS TO THE RURAL PART OF THE DISTRICT. I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU WHAT STRENGTHS YOU BRING TO THE URBAN PART OF THIS DISTRICT. YOU'RE ORIGINALLY A FARMER FROM DAVIS COUNTY. YOU HAVE A FARM BACKGROUND. WHAT ASPECTS, WHAT TRAITS DO YOU BRING TO THE RURAL PORTIONS OF THIS DISTRICT -- TO THE URBAN PORTIONS, EXCUSE ME.

Boswell: I BRING AN EXPERIENCE LEVEL THAT STAN CAN'T COMPARE TO, AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THESE PERILOUS TIMES. EXPERIENCE DOES COUNT. IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, SO THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THINGS DONE EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT IN THE MAJORITY. SO I WOULD CONTINUE TO SERVE THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE URBAN PROBLEMS. WHEN I WAS AT THE STATE SENATE FOR TWELVE YEARS, I STAYED IN DES MOINES IN THE WINTERTIME. I HAD POSITIONS OF RESPONSIBILITY. I WAS DOWNTOWN CONSTANTLY WITH CIVIC GROUPS AND THE CHAMBER AND DIFFERENT ONES, SO I UNDERSTAND DES MOINES AND I'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT CAN DO THAT. THEY WANTED ME TO GO WITH THEM TO LEAD THE DELEGATION TO CUBA LAST SPRING TO MAKE SALES AND MAKE SOME INPUT THERE. SO I MANAGED TO GET LOOSE, AND I WENT DOWN THERE. AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL. WE SOLD A NUMBER OF CONTRACTS, AND THAT CONTINUES YET TODAY. SO I BRING A LOT --

Glover: WHAT DO YOU SAY -- WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE CHARGE THAT YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE MINORITY PARTY IN THE HOUSE AND THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO CHANGE IN THIS ELECTION AND THAT VOTERS IN THIS DISTRICT WOULD BE BETTER OFF ELECTING A MEMBER OF THE MAJORITY PARTY?

Boswell: WELL, IT JUST MIGHT CHANGE. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY. AND I THINK AS YOU LOOK OVER THE YEARS AND THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE SUCCESS, THE AGRICULTURAL BILL SUCCESS, WHAT I CAN PRESENT AN INPUT TO, OUR SAFETY AND THAT INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, AS WE THINK ABOUT TERRORISM AND WHAT IT BRINGS, IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US. AND IT'S NOT TIME FOR OJT. ON-THE-JOB TRAINING IS NOT A GOOD IDEA IN THESE PERILOUS TIMES, SO I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE OF IOWA WILL SUPPORT ME. I THINK THEY WILL AND I'M ASKING FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND I THINK I'VE GOT A LOT TO OFFER.

Yepsen: MR. THOMPSON, WE'VE GOT TWO MINUTES LEFT. I'LL GIVE EACH OF YOU ONE OF THEM. GIVE ME YOUR COMMERCIAL. WHAT DO YOU WANT VOTERS IN THIS DISTRICT TO REMEMBER ABOUT YOU AS THEY HEAD TO THE POLLS?

Thompson: I WANT THEM TO REMEMBER THAT STAN THOMPSON IS A PERSON WHO CARES ABOUT THIS STATE. I'VE LIVED IN THIS STATE ALL OF MY LIFE. I WANT TO SEE IOWA DO BETTER. AS I'VE SAID, I WANT TO KEEP JOBS HERE. I WANT TO CREATE NEW JOBS. I WANT TO BE AN ECONOMIC AMBASSADOR. I DON'T WANT TO BE SOMEBODY WHO JUST GOES TO WASHINGTON, VOTES ON BILLS, COMES HOME, TELLS PEOPLE WHAT WASHINGTON IS DOING. I WANT TO BE THE TYPE OF CONGRESSMAN THAT HEARS WHAT PEOPLE HERE WANT AND GO TO WASHINGTON AND GET IT DONE. AND WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT RIGHT NOW. THE PROBLEM ISN'T THAT COMMITTEES THAT CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL IS ON, IT'S HIS EFFECTIVENESS. HERE IN DES MOINES WE USED TO HAVE A DIRECT FLIGHT FROM DES MOINES TO OUR NATION'S CAPITAL. HE SITS ON THE AVIATION SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, AND WE LOST THAT ROUTE ON HIS WATCH. WE CAN DO BETTER. I WILL DO BETTER.

Yepsen: CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL, YOU GET THE LAST WORD. WHY SHOULD VOTERS RE-ELECT YOU? WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO REMEMBER ABOUT YOU AS THEY HEAD TO THE POLLS?

Boswell: THAT EXPERIENCED COUNTS. AND CONTRARY TO WHAT STAN JUST SAID, I'VE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE. IF HE DOESN'T THINK 85 MILLION FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS IS NOT IMPORTANT, WELL, THAT'S HIS PLACE TO EXPLAIN THAT. THE ONE BILLION IN AGRICULTURE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. SO I HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE, AND I'LL CONTINUE TO BE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE I'VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE. AND I'VE SERVED IN THE COMMUNITY PROJECTS. I'VE SERVED ON MY CO-OP. I'VE SERVED IN THE LEGISLATURE. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY THERE AND WAS EFFECTIVE THERE, AND I'VE BEEN EFFECTIVE HERE. AND I DO HAVE THE MULTITUDE OF FARM ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT ME. I ALSO HAVE THOSE IN THE URBAN AREAS, AS WELL AS DOWNTOWN IN OUR CAPITAL CITY. THEY KNOW THAT I'M EFFECTIVE, I'M ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS TO BRING RESULTS BACK TO IOWA, WHICH I'VE DONE EFFECTIVELY. AND I'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT BECAUSE I LOVE MY COUNTRY, I LOVE MY STATE. I'M HERE TO SERVE AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MY LIFE HAS BEEN.

Borg: THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN BOSWELL. AND THANK YOU, MR. THOMPSON, FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. WE APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOUR VIEWS. NEXT WEEK WE'LL QUESTION THE MAJOR-PARTY CANDIDATES IN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT OF EASTERN IOWA WHERE TWO JOHNSON COUNTY MEN SEEK A SEAT IN CONGRESS. WE'LL QUESTION REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT JIM LEACH OF IOWA CITY AND DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGER DAVE FRANKER OF NORTH LIBERTY. LEACH AND FRANKER: NEXT FRIDAY, 7:30; SUNDAY AT NOON. AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF "IOWA PRESS." I'M DEAN BORG. THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.

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